This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1Lisasikeston Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/291.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! I'm sorry I haven't replied sooner but I go thru my sister-in-law's ancestry and she forgot to flip your letter to me! John left home when I was about 3 years old and I haven't seen him since. Since I started genealogy I have met another one of his son's, John, of course! Ha! He lives in Wisconsin and is a truck driver. That would be great if you had a picture of him or anything for that matter. I never really got to know him. He gave me a necklace when he left and I still have it. I just barely remember him. My father's name is John also as well as my brother. I have been trying to track him down since 1998 and that is when I found out he had passed away. Is there any way I could get a picture of his grave site? I know it is a lot to ask and I understand if you can't. I just want to know about him since it was so important for him to leave Missouri and go to California. From what I understand he was a bit different! Ha! If you would like to email me here is my personal ! email address: [email protected] Thank you so much for responding and again I am sorry I didn't respond earlier. Sandy Russell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: danderup Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/609.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Go to URL: http://www.topozone.com/ Type in "Sierraville Cemetery" and "California" for search criteria. This should provide various type of maps showing location. Vern D Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindagn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/609/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In what city or township is Sierraville Cemetery located? Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/291.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: if u get this, i knew john...he was a good old guy...i am 45 now & have lived here all of my life.. i may be able to come up with a pic of him...

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/334.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: they had a son joe who i believe still lives in portola...also a daughter & dont remember her name.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/340.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In Erwin G. Gudde's book, _California Gold Camps: A Geographical and Historical Dictionary of Camps, Towns, and Localities Where Gold Was Found and Mined; Wayside Stations and Trading Centers_ (Berkeley/Los Angeles/London: University of California Press, 1975), I found the following references: "Pine Grove [Sierra]. In the Slate Creek Basin, at the Yuba County line. Shown on Trask's map, 1853, and on later maps. Lecouvreur was here in the summer of 1852, apparently before gold deposits were discovered, and gives a poetic description of the place (pp. 231 f.). In September of the same year, John Clark calls it "a new place with 5 or 600 inhabitants" ("The California Guide"). According to Vischer (pp. 238, 240) and _Transactions_, 1858 (pp. 198 ff.), the mining was mainly tunnel work. The _Mining Press_, October 19, 1861, reports that 6 thousand dollars' worth was washed out from one tunnel in eight hours. A detailed account of the Comet, a cooperative mining undertaking, is given in Raymond, V (p. 81). In 1879 there was still some hydraulic mining, and Hayes Mine is listed in Mining Bureau reports until 1942." [Gudde, p. 267.] [There is also a Pine Grove in Amador, Placer and Yuba Counties.] "Whiskey Diggings [Sierra]. On Little Slate Creek, near the Plumas County line. Shown as Whiskey on Trask's map, 1853. The camp is mentioned by John Clark in "The California Guide," September 3, 1852. The _Alta_, February 24, 1854 reprints an item from the Gibsonville _Trumpet_ which reports that a greenhorn picked up a nugget of twenty-seven ounces on his first day of mining. There was prosperous tunnel work in progress when Vischer (p. 240) visited the place in 1859. One of the diggings averaged 700 dollars weekly in the winter of 1861 and 1862 (_Mining Press_, March 16, 1861; July 16, 1862). The camp was also known as Whiskey and Newark (Bancroft Scraps, V, p. 1782). The place is still mentioned as a part of the Gibsonville district in 1918 (_Mining Bureau_, XVI, Sierra, p. 11)." [Gudde, p. 368-369.] [There is also a Whiskey Diggings, Hill in nearby Placer County.] Chuck Knuthson Sierra County GenWeb

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/340.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The jurisdiction is Whiskey Diggins Township No. 8. Byron N. Low is listed as a miner, 28, b. NY Rebecca is 29, b. IL Warren Brady, 11, b. IL 2 others It is indexed in Ancestry.com under Byron N. Lew and Warren Brady. Chuck Knuthson Sierra Co. GenWeb

I am researching a family that lived in Pine Grove in the same area of Howland Flats. The name was John Peter Corpstein, and he was running a hotel in Pine Grove at the time of the 1860 census. He also worked a couple of claims. Any information about Pine Grove, or the family, would be appreciated. John Daly

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/340.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would be interested in information on this area. My Porter and Rose families were in this area (Goodyears Bar, Pike, Nevada City, Plum Valley) that I know of for certain 1866 to as late as 1936 for some of the men. The women left earlier for Alamdea County and San Francisco. I'm having a difficult time locating records on them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Yarrington, Howard, Vann Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/340.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I was talking to my mother about Whiskey Diggings. My mother said it was on the old LaPorte road by Howland flats. She said it was near Port Wine which are old towns no longer there. My pioneer ancestors settled in Sierra County in the 1850's, also in Plumas County. I have a great deal of information on this area if you are interested. Kathleen Decker

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/333.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i found the article and scanned it. it was just a cut out of the article not the whole paper....calulating his age of 68 years and birth year the article was from 1928....it also says they think a rock slide fell on him so i dont know where my grandma got the idea of robbery.....the paper was from the ----- Union.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/333.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If your grandma finds her paper while she looks, keep an eye out for one more. My grandfather, Stillman Asel Porter was shot in robbery in his store in (or near) Pike, Sierra County. His cemetary marker there in Pike is dated Sept. 14, 1885. His family lived in Forest on the 1880 census and 1870 in Goodyears Bar. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Porter/D Rosa Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/608/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was glad to find out for sure where Plum Valley was. My gr-grandmother Elizabeth/Lizzie Porter/D Rosa's bachelor brothers John and George were there on the 1920 census. John was in SF in 1910 then I can no record of any of these older men until an 1896 deed sale of John's dwelling in Plum Valley 1896 (Book 11, 199)or my gr-grandfather Manuel D Rosa until the voter registrations in 1890 on back through 1880 and on back to 1866 for gr-gr grandfather Stillman Porter in Sierra. I am at a loss to know where they were in this earlier gap. There were several other D Rosa children born in this time (including my Grandfather). The Porter women show up in San Francisco in 1900 but none of these men are to be found (and Eliz. is listed as a widow). Earlier they were in Forest in 1880 with their father Stillman and other family, also in 1870 in Goodyears Bar. Stillman was evidently shot in his store robbery in or near Pike in Sept 1885 and is buried there,I believe near an infant grandson (twin?)Joseph Da Rosa of 1884 (His parents md. there in 1882). I've viewed microfilm of the county vital records in the Salt Lake City LDS family history center south of my home but cannot find any further records. Would you know if their filming was complete? It shows no death record 1874-1878 then 1884, only 3 ending Aug 1 then jumps to 1879 and an affidafit of birth of Stillman's daughter Kate filed in 1943 by her brother John Porter is all I can find for birth. I did find the 1882 mariage record there of my grgrandparents and think the I. Rosa witness is a relative of Manual's (Father?) since I find an Ignacio Rosa on the same ship manifest where I think Manuel is rightly fitting in (at16) in Boston from the Azores in 1873. The voter regis. lead me to his Nevada City naturalization in 1874. A copy of deeds, "Book Y, 1/22/1883, pg 684, 685, 686 of the Porter's property mentions a "county Road on the west by M Rose fence" Would this be indicator of property of my Gr grandfather's? Would there be mining claims? Any other ideas or places to try? Were there any obituaries or criminal records of shootings? Any major events for men in my 1890 to 1900 gap?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GRANT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/306.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have only recently found your April 7, 2006 response to my query regarding Samuel Orrin Grant. He was my great grandfather and I would like to exchange information with you. You can send me an email at [email protected] Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/142.145.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for more information on my family of A.S. (or Stillman Asel) Porter, his wife Catherine, and their (then in 1870 Census of Goodyears Bar, 5 children). He was a merchant but his sons John and George later were miners at the Alaska Mine near Pike (and lived in Plum Valley, 1920). He was shot and killed in a robbery at his store in? Pike in 1885. Also any information on Manuel Rosa who also lived in Pike and married their daughter Elizabeth/Lizzie in 1882 and probably was the father of infant Joseph Roza(Rosa) buried in the Pike cemetary, 1884 (possibly a twin). Where might I locate information on the book you mentioned?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/204.10.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I doubt if it was my brother as he just took over last year. I will ask him if they are there. Thanks again

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/204.10.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've visited the La Porte museum several years ago and spoke with the person running it, no doubt your brother. In 2005 I was up there again and left a packet of stuff (donation) in front of the door since the museum was closed on that Saturday. It consisted of a Rutishauser letters book (from which the letter text was taken) and a bunch of old photos (copies). Hopefully he got it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Marvin, Lewis, France, Fitzgerald, Reid Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/204.10.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oh thank you ever so much, I am going to print them out and go sit by the fire and read. I have "The Roar of the Monitors" My line goes: Thomas Lewis b. 1830 in Pembrokeshire Wales md Sarah Jane Hussey b. 1830 and came to Sierra Co., CA Him in 1863 and her about 1872, their daughter Martha "Mattie" was born after he left for Californa. Thomas was a Methodist Minister, he and Sarah Jane had 4 children, James, Elizabeth, William and Martha. James md Lillie May Kelly, Elizabeth (my gr grandmother) md (1) Joshua Marvin b.1838 OH (my line) and (2)John William Reid, William md Mary Ann Stevens, and Martha "Mattie" md Linzy W. France. In Jan's book there is a picture of a boarding house. Elizabeth and her girls ran the boarding house and are pictured in this photo. Etta was my grandmother she md John James "Jack" Fitzgerald. My brother Mike Fitzgerald has the Museum in LaPorte open during the Summer months there is a lot of history there. The others I had listed I remembered from when I used to spend the summers up there on the old Lewis Ranch also known as the Marvin Ranch near Scales. I believe it was Thomas' brother James Lewis that had a hotel in Portwine. He also had a brother William.Thanks you so much for the letters. Glenda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/204.10.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just e-mailed the letter text to your posted address.

I don't remember what year the City Directory for Sierra Co. is for on Sierra Co., on USGenweb. You can also find the pages on Ancestry.com or in the History of Plumas...Etc. Counties which were published around that time. I don't remember a hotel on Main Street when I went to Downieville in 2002. There were two that I remember at that time, both on Commerical Street...one just before the bridge which I believe the person was talking about and from my understanding it was originally the newspaper office. My family lived at 1 Commercial Street at one time according to the census. Across the bridge on Commerical Street which becomes Highway 49 is another motel which has rooms. You can do a search on the internet for Downieville. I believe there is another history which I saw part of and got pictures and some pages while searching in Sierra City from a lady who worked at their library. Somewhere I have lost those pages in moving but it gave more names and businesses for! several years because I found the Livery Stable and some other things that my families were connected with. Hope this will give you some idea. There are several places on the Main Street that could have been hotels at one time or another. Pat MOrano > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2006/12/07 Thu AM 03:15:50 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: CASIERRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 16 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bavouzet - Ramm family in Camptonville, Brandy City area > ([email protected]) > 2. Re: Capitol Hotel in Downieville ([email protected]) > 3. Re: Capitol Hotel in Downieville ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:20:33 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASIERRA] Bavouzet - Ramm family in Camptonville, Brandy > City area > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Bavouzet, Bavouset, Ramm > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/299.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Jim, I was sent a letter by the Camptonville Historical Society that was written by Erma Cassano entitled "Camptonville Recollections." It mentioned my Bavouzet relatives and some of the Ramm family. I have received some information from the state of California archives (obits, newspaper copy, etc) plus in summer of 2005 I went to Camptonville and Marysville and dig some research as well. > If you are not familiar with the story from Erma, let me know and I will send it to you. It is 11 pages typed in Microsoft Word format...or I can put it in almost any other format you need. If you are familiar with the document, and are aware of other information, please send it on to me. I would love to know more about the "Star of the Sea" church in San Francisco where Mon. Charles Ramm officiated. I have been near it but didn't get to see it. I would like to visit the cemetery there as some cousins are buried in it. If you wish you can email me directly. If you click on my name in the message board, it will show you my email address. > If you happen to know any of the surviving Ramm family members I would love to contact them. > Thanks for writing, > Rex > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:39:33 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASIERRA] Capitol Hotel in Downieville > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/338.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I was in Downieville during summer of 2005. Wonderful little town. I saw two hotels, there may be one other. They are all small. On main street there is one just east of the Hwy 49 (Commerce St) bridge. Highway 49 enters town on the west side as "Main" street. But when the highway turns south and crosses the river, the highway becomes "Commerce" street. Main street continues east as it heads along side of the river. > The hotel on Main street was larger and has a restarant / bar on the first floor. The hotel on the south side of the river bridge is less developed. It might not have been a hotel in 1885. I am not a historian of this area, but thought that this might help you sort out your answer. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:47:15 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASIERRA] Capitol Hotel in Downieville > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sierra/338.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks > > Emmitt > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CASIERRA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CASIERRA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CASIERRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 16 > *************************************** >