Hi all! just a follow up. I put my new site here http://myclouds.tripod.com/shasta/shastaco.html it is without the marriages and census but I will be adding new stuff along. it is a big loss but we won't let that slow us down. with all the changes there will be broken links I missed. so if you find one let me know. I wanted to thank everyone for all the suggestions. a small explanition why I went to a free site. my health is very questionable so if I put it on a pay site when I quit paying it would be gone. this way it will just stay right there for researchers to come. Janie