Hi Sandy, I'll send you the 1930 census image off-list. In 1930 he is shown with wife Emma; children-Doris, Lorraine, and John. You might notice on the census image that there is a "Solari" family towards the bottom of the page, and looking at the birth records below you'll see that Emma's maiden name was SOLARI. Here are the children's listings in the CA birth index Last First Middle Birthdate MothersName Sex CountyOfBirth KILKENNY DORIS J May 19,1911 SOLARI FEMALE SAN FRANCISCO KILKENNY JOHN J Jan 12,1919 SOLARI MALE SAN FRANCISCO KILKENNY LORRAINE May 11,1914 SOLARI FEMALE SAN FRANCISCO And these from the CA death index Last First Middle Birth MothersName FathersName Sex Bp CountyOfDeath Death SSN Age KILKENNY EMMA MARIE May 17,1883 -- -- FEMALE CA SAN FRANCISCO Jan 23,1979 545821835 95 KILKENNY DORIS JOSEPHINE May 19,1911 SOLARI -- FEMALE CA SAN FRANCISCO May 29,1993 552688016 82 KILKENNY JOHN J Jan 12,1919 -- -- MALE CA SAN FRANCISCO Apr 14,1971 --- 52 KILKENNY PATRICK M Oct 16,1884 JORDON -- MALE EI SAN FRANCISCO Apr 08,1968 566667098 83 And from the CA birth index; here are possible children of Lorraine Kilkenny and "Mr. SPHAR" Last First Middle Birthdate MothersName Sex CountyOfBirth SPHAR CLARK HERBERT Oct 31,1945 KILKENNY MALE SANTA CLARA SPHAR MICHAEL JOHN Jul 13,1947 KILKENNY MALE SANTA CLARA SPHAR JOHN MATTERN June 12,1953 KILKENNY MALE SANTA CLARA And from the CA death index This is very strange. A Michael John Sphar died young; but note his borthdate matches that given in the Birth Index as Clark Sphar's. SPHAR MICHAEL JOHN Oct 31, 1945 KILKENNY SPHAR MALE CA SAN MATEO Jan 25,1952 -- 06 And a Clark with the same birthdate is also listed in the death index.. but with a different (possible incorrect) mothers-last-name.. SPHAR CLARK Oct 31, 1945 BASTARI -- MALE CA SANTA CLARA Mar 26,1986 558473832 40 odd, eh? if you'd like me to check any earlier census records for you, just let me know. hope there is some new information in the data I've sent. MeLani -------Original Message----- -- I would love help finding --them in 1930 in San --Francisco. --1920 San Francisco CA --Series: T625 Roll: 135 Page: 244 --Assembly District 26; precinct 54 --Lives at 4061 18th Street --Kilkenny, Patrick head, M W age 36 married immigrsated 1901; --NA 1906 IRE IRE --IRE; studying Dentistry --Emma, wife age 36 married b CA Parents born Switzerland --Doris dau age 8 b CA --Lorraine dau age 5 b CA (may have married a "Sphar") --John son age 11 months b CA