I recieved this note today... so on to Mike Machado.. got to be a way to release these records.. maybe if everone emails Mike Machado & let him know that this needs to be changed? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troka, Genevieve" <GTroka@ss.ca.gov> To: <margecam@pacbell.net> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Archives Web Form - Stockton State Hospital Cemetery/Burial r ecords > > > > > Thank you for your recent e-mail requesting information about > > > > records of Stockton State Hospital > > > > patients. > > > > Unfortunately, > we are prohibited by California Welfare and Institutions > > Code > > > > section > > > > 5328 from releasing any information about patients. The code > > > > section does > > > > include some exceptions, but general historical > research is not one > of > > > them. If > > > you > > > > wish to read this > law you can find it on the following web > site: > http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html <http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html> > > > The State Archives would like > to see the California Public Records Act and > related laws amended to place a time limit > on access restrictions so that > records about individuals who > are no longer alive would be open to the > public. At this time, however, no such time limit on restrictions exists. > > > > > > > > > I hope this information is helpful. Please feel free to > > contact > > us > > > again > > > if > > > > we can be of additional > assistance. > > Genevieve Troka > California State Archives > 1020 "O" Street > Sacramento, CA 95814 > (916) 653-7715 > > > > ---------- > From: margecam@pacbell.net [SMTP:margecam@pacbell.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:16 PM > To: State Archives > Subject: Archives Web Form - Stockton State Hospital > Cemetery/Burial records > > Customer's Message ***************************** > I am still working with the State, county & city of Stockton on > getting the burial/death/cemetery records released from the State Hospital > records. > All the above should by now have a copy of a letter written by Mr. > Joseph Holt, who was aware of the dealings that took place to get the zoning > changed on this old cemetery. Joe states in his letter that in a matter of > hours in Judge Buck's chambers, they had successfully removed all 3,500+ > bodies to a common grave. This cemetery has never been abandonded, is a > public cemetery, abused and all but forgotten. Only 1.39 of the original 5 > (5 of 15 acres used as cemetery) cemetery acres is left unimproved. I> Form was accessed from Web page http://webdev/archives/archives.htm. >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Willard, Waterman, Magee, Spatt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/966 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on the family of Jeremiah "Jeb" & Cora Belle (Waterman) Willard. They came from Kilbourne City (now WI Dells) Wisconsin. They would have had 2 daughters and a son that came with them, as their 3rd daughter died as a child and is buried in WI. Cora died in Lodi, CA (year unknown, this coming from her niece who is almost 90 yrs old) About 1934-1935, my great aunt, Edna (Magee) Spatt, was sent to live with Jeb and Cora after her mother died. She was about 11 yrs old. Edna can't remember if she went to California to be with them, went with them to CA. She did recall that the Willards were "into the finer things in life". ANY help in locating this missing puzzle piece would be helpful!

The procedure is: Fill out the birth, death form (birth is white, full page.. death is goldenrod).. where it says How Many Copies?.. put a "0" and write "view only". Give this to the clerk and be patient.. they will put your request last, paying customers first... that is only fair. Check out the neat books they have on land records... and find out about searching for platt/land information.. (I did, and it pays off sometimes). When your copy is ready for viewing... take it to the counter away from the front counter, copy everything onto paper and then give the printout back to the clerk (they have to have it for accounting purposes). Also.... The recorder's office will be moving, and they were not sure when .. they will be directly accross the street in the bank building. The Assessor's office will be taking the entire 3rd floor, as they need more space. Marge http://www.rootsweb.com/~moiron2 Iron County MO Web Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/home.htm Margie Campbell's Web Page HERMES surname maillist host WENSTRÖM surname maillist host ----- Original Message ----- From: <WAPnDAP@aol.com> To: <CASANJOA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 7:20 AM Subject: [CASANJOA] S. J. Recorder's Office > I believe there is a way to look at the information on birth and death > certificates > without purchasing them from the San Joaquin County Recorder's Office. Of > course, > when I was there last week they did not seem to know what I was talking about. > So I ended up purchasing my great uncle's death certificate. > > Would someone please tell me what the procedure is to just view the info. > > Thank you. > Debbie > > ______________________________ >

Hi everyone: Why send to all CALIF lists? Because from 1854 to late 1800's if you were committed in Calif to a state hospital, you were sent to Stockton for long term care. Why would you get committed? For reading Trashy Romance Novels, for being Jealous of hubby's new lady friend, for striking gold, and being to happy with it (they took the claim from this one I am sure), for sending for your niece & nephews after saving for years to do so.. and being to happy at seeing them arrive, for being to old to care for yourself, for missing over 5 menses (menopause), some legit, many more not. No, I haven't given up! I received a letter from a gentleman who stated he and one other person went into a Judge's chambers and in a matter of a few hours had "successfully removed" all the remains at the old State Hospital Cemetery to a common grave at Rural cemetery. One great feat accomplished with a few strokes of a pen (this man gave copies to all city/county/state officials, or asked Stockton to forward for him). This man is very concerned about the happenings years ago. He has been pushing me to get the matter corrected, as he had no success on his own. I had been trying to do this without mentioning this person, as he is elderly now, and it would do no good to hold him responsible for something others with greater authority talked him into doing. This has been a worry to him since it's inception, and he is relieved & willing to do what needs to be done to put things right (get the records released & get a plaque put up). The above is the major news.. the following is an update as to my contacts with the city, county & state officials... City of Stockton sent it to the city Attorney (probably to make sure they don't have any worries); city attorney said it's a District Attorney thing.. DA says call Stockton Police to the site, file a criminal complaint, since I think it was a crime (branded me a loony, don't you think?). Barbara Matthew's office is following up & has forwarded to other offices. Pombo's office forwarded it to others (not his district). Calif Archives said they would get back to me months ago, so I wrote them again today. Stockton/SJC planning commission has it, not sure what's happening there.. will call them again... think they gave it to someone else, City Attorney I think. Mike Machado's office has it, and I sent Patty there a copy of the letter from the gentleman I mentioned above, and she is yet to return my calls.. she is working on the Cemetery Regulations side of it, to see if there indeed is a problem. Patty & Mike Machado are the best bet to date. I was at the property yesterday, no change.. for sale sign that CRichard Ellis company have up & promised to remove is still there, the place is still strewn with trash, old car seats, a washer or dryer, junk... I was thinking of taking hubby's truck out and cleaning it a bit (have a nephew I can pay to help), but the transients are still in a tent there ( I never reported them, hey, we have to live) so I won't go out there by myself & don't want them to accost my nephew, as he has a short fuse. And, besides, it's not my place to clean the place up for a real estate company who does not even know who the owner is, right? I may do so soon, but would like a city/county/state official to view the property as it is first. We have excellent grounds to get the records released, and more if we chose to do so. It is not my intent to make the owners of the buildings (Beverly Manor Care home, and medical offices) remove them. I just want the names released so folks will know where their ancestor's are buried. There are no markers of any kind, so finding grave would be hap hazard after all these years anyway. The money & time would be better spent erecting a monument & giving public a place to check for names of ancestor's who are buried at the old site. Best we can do with all that has transpired. We have the law on our side, and with the information we now have on how the zone change was done.. it is my feeling the State holds the ball, and it is up to them to right things. I was also thinking of posting a sign on the site.. Stockton State Hospital Cemetery, etc... with contact phone number for those interested in the site. I would have to find a sign to use, or could just post it onto the for sale sign.. hey, if they forgot it was there... then they abandoned the sign, right? (I will call them again today to see if they mind if I attach a sign to theirs)... or they can take theirs down & have the owner call me.. he/they could sue the state & get lots of money.. right, our money... we taxpayers just can't win, but the land would go back to the state.. so they could leave as a cemetery.. hmmmm. Well, that is where things are at the moment. And I apologize if I sound trite, but it's laugh or cry.. and I get a headache when I cry.. so life goes on. Marge Campbell Lodi, CA http://www.rootsweb.com/~moiron2 Iron County MO Web Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/home.htm Margie Campbell's Web Page HERMES surname maillist host WENSTRÖM surname maillist host

Hi.. Went ahead & picked these up while in town today. Cert # 3900-2007 Patrick James FLYNN (CA born Feb 12, 1899) died 6 Oct 1975 10:45 pm in Tracy at home. No home address given. Cause of death: Lukemia myclonghier? 6 mos; Polycythrian Rubra Veria? 3 yr Father: Eugene Flynn b CA Mother: Mary Ann Jordan b Canada Painting contractor, self emp., 30 yrs- painting Was in CA for 76 yrs. ss#567-01-4552 . US citizen. In county 1 Month***** Wife was informant. Her name: Edith E. Trafton Flynn/ 680 East St, #3, Tracy, CA 95376 Death not reported to Coronor, no autopsy. Buried in Tracy Public Cemetery by Hotchkiss Mort. Dr Harry McClland. ********************** Cert # 3900-3267 Jacob R. Buhler (ND born 7 June 1901) died 17 Dec 1986 - 084 hrs at home. NOTE: his home address was 1901 E Yosimite #59, Manteca/ but place of death address is daughter's address of 18294 S. Austin Rd/ Manteca, CA 95336. Cause of Death: Natraul causes Father: David Buhler b Russia Mother: Elizabeth Janz b Russia Wife: Nellie Birmingham Salesman of Electroncis, self emp Coronors report done, no autopsy. ss# 563-36-0023 does not say how long in CA Informant was daughter, Iris Cathey, see address above. P.L.Fry & Sons in charge, buried in Dinuba Seventh Day Advn. cemetry in Dinuba, CA Doctor Anil Sain ****************************** Cert 314-238 Sarah Poynor (widow/born 1843 in MO) died 29 July 1910 near Avenia. 67 yrs old in CA 36 years, in Avenia area 11 yrs. Father: John Guinn b MO Mother: unknown Cause of Death: Struck by train. BC Wallace coronor Buried by BC Wallace in Atlanta, CA Informant was: John Poynor of Stockton. ***************************** Cert # 3900-0910 Ples Guinn Poynor (b in CA 11 April 1876) died 1 May 1960 10:30pm Farmer/self emp/60yrs Rt 1, Box 1330/ Escalon, CA Father: Henry Poynor TN Mother: Sarah Guynn KY Wife Mause W Poynor see address above Entombment at Park View Mausoleum BC Wallace in charge. NOTE: there is a Parkview in Manteca (cemetery & they also run the mausoleum in Stockton at Rural cemetery). Informant was the wife. died of Cong Heart failure (6mos)/ anteriantelenotier? heart disease 8 yr. ss# 565-04-4575A ******************************** Cert 3902-23 John J. Goertz (b 12 June 1858 in Alexandria Russia) died 9 Feb 1944. Was in CA 30 years, in Lodi 2 mos. at 901 S. Central, Lodi, CA 70 yrs in America. died of Failing myocarditis 2-1/2 yr/ Diabetes Mele.. & old age. age was 85 yrs, 7 mos, 27 days. Father: John Goertz / Russia Mother Katharine Neufeld/ Russia informant was Mrs. Mary Trefs of Lodi, CA Lodi Funeral home in chg buried in Dinuba cemetery, Dinuba CA *********************************** I haven't hand written so much in years! They didn't want me to take a photo of the page, bummer! Marge http://www.rootsweb.com/~moiron2 Iron County MO Web Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/home.htm Margie Campbell's Web Page HERMES surname maillist host WENSTRÖM surname maillist host

I believe there is a way to look at the information on birth and death certificates without purchasing them from the San Joaquin County Recorder's Office. Of course, when I was there last week they did not seem to know what I was talking about. So I ended up purchasing my great uncle's death certificate. Would someone please tell me what the procedure is to just view the info. Thank you. Debbie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rider, Gentry Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/232.1.1 Message Board Post: read your listing.....I am searching Rider surname....and I have a Rider...my 4greatgrandfather, Barnabas Rider, born 1792....and was in Dutchess County, NY. Could there be a link???? I dont have any of his siblings. What do you have in your listings? Email me at: bert334@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lima and Chavez Families Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/965 Message Board Post: Looking for descendants of Joseph Thomas Lima and his wife Mary Chavez Lima who were living in Stockton about 1900. They had one son, that I know of, Harry Philip Lima born 190l in Stockton. My e-mail is marcielhwood@cs.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Renner Family Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/933.1 Message Board Post: There used to be a Renner family, mother, father and four daughters living near 10th Ave. and Stockton Blvd. in Sacramento in the 1940s. They were our neighbors, but I don't remember the father's name. They could be related to your Renner. A phone book of that time frame could give you his first name. They had a phone .One of the older girls, can't remember her name, was involved with a Raley boy (the grocery store chain), but I don't know if they ever married.

Hi... didn't find these obits: Manuela Sanchez d 3 April 1981 (the newspaper in Stockton for this time frame lists also all deaths in San Joaquin county in past 24 hours.. nothing). Dora Doe 19 July 1965. This one will be difficult.. no real name.. may not have gotten an obit. Catherine Mozier 16 Apr 1998. Nothing for the week..also, nothing listed in SJ deaths in the Stockton Record. She is on the cadi tho... Marge http://www.rootsweb.com/~moiron2 Iron County MO Web Page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mcampbel/home.htm Margie Campbell's Web Page ----- Original Message ----- From: <NORCAL-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <NORCAL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: NORCAL-D Digest V01 #605

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/964 Message Board Post: Looking for the Alfred and Rose HART MARTIN family of Stockton. She died in 1911. Is anyone looking for this family? Does anyone know where she is buried or how I can get a copy of her obit? Thanks. Vicki

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/476.2 Message Board Post: Hi Vern, Thanks for the picture of my aunt. I haven't seen this one. I also have a couple of year books that belonged to my Grandmother, sister of Leona. Maybe I should list the names in these yearbooks as well. Thanks for the idea and thanks again for sharing and the pic of my aunt. D Moore :-)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dollman, Rhoades, Bickford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/963 Message Board Post: Looking for information for Dollman husband's name possible Lanny / Larry DOLLMAN who married Sylvia Jane Rhoades. Sylvia was born Sept 4, 1948. Solano County, CA. Children: Keith H. Dollman b 1974 San Joaquin Co., CA. Crystal Goldie Dollman b 1978 San Joaquin Co., CA. Sylvia Rhoades parents are Oliver C. Rhoades and Arleen A. (Goldie) BICKFORD. Oliver was born 1918, died 1987. Arleen was born 1918, .......... There should be living relatives....sure would like to know more about them. Thanks so much. I have lots of information about the BICKFORD family and some of the RHOADES family and would like to fill in blanks for the DOLLMAN family. Mary Bickford in Tx.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/962 Message Board Post: I need any info I can find on a Patsy,Patty or Pat Schoonover born in 1942 and graduated in 1960 from Lodi High School.May have born elsewhere.May be my halve sister I have never met.Father was Harold(Carroll) Schoonover and sometimes they called him Rex.Any info on Patsy Schoonover from Lodi,San Joaquin Co.would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kleinstauber, Smith, Deckwa, McAdams, Fible, Ward Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AY.2ADE/476.1 Message Board Post: I noticed that Leona Kleinstauber was listed in the book. This was my great aunt. She died Oct. 11, 2000. I knew her personally. If you would like to share any info on this line I would love to hear from you. DMoore

I'm looking for information on Reuben Miller Dillon (born in Kentucky in 1832 and died March 7, 1899 in Plymouth, Amador County, California), especially his parents and siblings. He is not listed in the Kentucky 1850 census. He married Eliza A. Satchwell on November 24, 1857 in Amador County, California. She died January 10, 1865 in California. Their children were: Sarah A. Dillon (born about 1859 in California) Elizabeth May "Lizzie" Dillon (born August 26, 1860 in Shenandoah Valley, Amador County, California and died October 13, 1950) William Benjamin Dillon (born January 21, 1863 in Plymouth, Amador County, California and died May 9, 1898 in Hayden Hill, Lassen County, California) Mariah F. Dillon (born about 1864 in California) On December 2, 1872, Reuben married Mary Margaret Brice in Plymouth, Amador County, California. Their children were: Christiana Lucinda "Lou" Dillon (born December 1872 in Plymouth, Amador County, California and died December 6, 1969 in Jackson, Amador County, California) Ralph C. "Pat" Dillon (born June 24, 1878 in Plymouth, Amador County, California and died December 3, 1953 in Plymouth, Amador County, California) James M. Dillon (born May 1880 in Plymouth, Amador County, California and died in 1923 in Plymouth, Amador County, California) Claud E. Dillon (born in 1882 in Amador County, California and died in 1882 in Amador County, California) George M. Dillon (born on January 20, 1884 on Dillon Ranch, Shenandoah Valley, Amador County, California and died December 6, 1954 in Placerville, El Dorado County, California) Reuben R. Dillon (born on February 17, 1889 in Plymouth, Amador County, California and died 1889 in Plymouth, Amador County, California) Ruby Dillon (born February 17, 1889 in Plymouth, Amador County, California and died after 1953) Cloice "Dutch" Dillon (born July 6, 1894 in Plymouth, Amador County, California and died after 1970) I have more information on most of these people. Reuben Miller Dillon is my great-great-grandfather. Regards Bill Dillon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/961 Message Board Post: I am looking for a San Jaquin County Volunteer who can transcribe a death certificate for me from the County Recorder's office. If anyone can please contact me directly at GBAXTER628@AOL.COM and I will provide you with all the details on the person I am looking for.I can supply the abstract form if needed. Thanks, Gary "Garth" E Baxter Chief Information Officer Skipper Families

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/960 Message Board Post: Attn Stockton City and San Jaquin County, fellow Genealogists. I am trying to reach a Wilma Taylor whose former Stockton Mailing address was 2053 Carpenter Rd, Stockton, California. She has moved and now has an unlisted phone number. Her sister, Catherine Vivian Mozier, who died 4/15/1998, is my third cousin and first cousin to Marcie Dolberg in Scottsdale, Az. We are trying to reach her to obtain information about her and her sister Catherine. I would like to add that Catherine's Grandmother, (Catherine McCall (Skipper) Hobson-Thebaut "Kate" is my Great Aunt and her "Kate's" Father Evander McCall Skipper is both our Great Grand Father's. I am the Chief Information Officer for Skipper Families and am documeting the Skipper Family Unit family names. The Skipper Family members desire only information about its vast history and heritage - nothing else. Wilma, and anyone else, reading this note please contact me directly at GBAXTER628@Aol.com, if you have information how to contact you, or her, and I will respond with my full name, address, and documentation of Catherine's relationship to the Skipper Family. Gary "Garth" E Baxter Chief Information Officer Skipper Families

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Courtner, Cortner and Sinclair Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/958 Message Board Post: Looking for Mearl M. Cortner/Courtner b. 31 Jan 1885 in Michigan. He died in San Joaquin co., Calif. on 22 Dec 1968. He married Bessie E., surname unknown. She was born in Michigan on 15 May 1885. She died July 1965 in San Joaquin co. Her mother's maiden name was Sinclair. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brakeman, Thorpe, Willoughby, Fallowes, Hutchings, Heatley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AY.2ADE/957 Message Board Post: The database of Bertie County vital records 1700s-1920 lists a group of Brakemans but I have not been able to locate tham on census records. Anyone have a clue? Mary Ann