This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ladd, King, Coffey, Henricks, Krepi Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/1112 Message Board Post: MRS. BETHA LADD Mrs. Bertha Ladd, 83, former resident of Millbrae for 15 years and most recently a resident of Escalon, died there early today after a long illness. She was a native of Missouri. Survivors include two daughters, Dorothy Coffey, Escalon; Vera Henricks, Bristow, Oklahoma, and a son, Leo Krepi, Bristow, Oklahoma, and 12 grandchildren. Funeral services and interment will be held at the Hutchins Funeral Home, Bristow, Oklahoma. San Mateo Times, Thursday, October 3, 1968, page 68 >From CADI: LADD BERTHA H 03/04/1885 KING F MISSOURI SAN JOAQUIN 10/03/1968 569-30-4020 83 yrs

Ok.. no death cert found.. probably name spelled different... so will try another spelling after the holidays. Obit was there tho.. Stockton Record, 12 Aug 1930, pg 17 Rooke- In Stockton, 11 Aug 1930, Elizabeth ROOKE, widow of William John Rooke; mother of Mrs E. D. Pritchard of Stockton. Mrs H. A. Becker and the late Mrs Ada Ricketts of Sacramento; grandmother of Mrs. C. R. Dabadie of Stockton, Mrs C. H. Spring and Mrs. E. C. Underwood of Sacramento; a native of OH, aged 90 years, 1 month and 20 days. Funeral service will be held on Wed. Aug 13 at BC Wallace Chapel. Burial in Sacramento's Odd Fellows Cemetery. With the census info I found earlier.. think this is the lady you seek. Let me know if you really need a recheck on the death cert.. or if the obit is enough. Marge -----Original Message----- From: David Sterner [mailto:dsterner@wistar.upenn.edu] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:51 PM To: Margie Campbell Subject: RE: Stockton obituaries >I'm going into Stockton tomorrow... I will try for her obit then... unless >it's storming to hard. I'll get the death cert info also tomorrow.... may >not need an obit if it contains enough information.. Marge > Thanks very much, that would be wonderful! I especially wondered if the obituary might name surviving siblings of any type, since my theory is that Elizabeth Rook may have been the half-sister or stepsister of my great-grandfather and his two brothers, who were still alive as of 1930. Also, she had a daughter Ada (who we may have a photograph of), so I wondered if she might be mentioned as well. Thanks again and good luck, David

Reba Helen Salazar cert# 3-94-39-003917 b 22 Apr 1922 72 yrs at death. Died 24 dec 1994 @ 0345 hrs born in MO. ss# 442-12-#### *I have if needed.. ask privately. Widow, 9 yrs education, waitress for Eastern Cafe lived at 2519 s. Ash, Stockton 95206 42 yrs in SJCo father: George Wesley Beyers born UNK mother: May Pearl ---UNK-- born UNK Informant, Daughter, Rita JELINCIC- 3249Jelincic Dr, Hayward,CA 94542 Cremated by Neptune society. Ashes to Rita Jelincic Died at St Joseph Med Ctr of Cardiopulmonary arrest (5 min) contributory: Chronic Lung Disease (10yr) No operation, biopsy, coronor report. doctor was G Shilling md, 3421 thornton Rd, Stockton, CA I checked for an obit.. there was none.. not surprising.. since Neptune society handled remains.. they are lowkey (but may have info). +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Cert # 3 93 39003106 Amos M. Silveira Sr died 22 Oct 1993 @ 0250 hrs male, white, b 17 Mar 1909 CALIF father: Joe Megal b Azores mother: Louisa Priera b Azores Widowed, Dairyman, self employed for 65 years. 6 yrs education. 10 yrs in county. Informant was son Amos P Silveira 239 Acacia St, Ripon, CA 95366 Died at St Dominicks Hosp in Manteca CA, 1777 w. Yosimite ave, Manteca 95336 Death was reported to coroner (may have more info). Died of Aspiration (hrs) Respetory Arrest (hrs) Severe Aortal Regurgitation (yrs) Dr Peter Lund, MD 1779 w Yosimite, Manteca Burial handled by PL Fry & Son. Buried at Tulock Memorial Park, 575 N Soderquist, Turlock,CA 95380 OBIT from Stockton Record, Oct 24, 1993 Page C5. Amos M. Silveira Sr, Dairy farmer. Amos M. Silveira Sr, 84 of Ripon died Friday in a Manteca hospital. orn in Los Banos, Mr. Silveira had lived in Ripon 10 years. He retired after 65 years as a self-employed dairy farmer. He was a member of the Sacred Heart Catholic Church in turlock and the Moose Lodge in Newman. He enjoyed clamming, fishing, hunting and farming. Survivors include two daughters, Barbara Cardoza of Modesto & Alberta Cookley of Chico; a son, Amos P. Silveira of Ripon; three sisters, Clorine Ford of Sacramento, and Mary Azevedo and Elizabeth Velno, both of Los Banos; tow sons, Henry Silveira of Idaho & ernest Silveira of Tulock; 10 grandchildren, 12 great grandchildren. A rosary follwed by a Mass of Christian burial will be celebrated at 1 pm Tuesday at Sacred Heart Catholic Church. REST of information same as death cert. I have a copy of the actual obit if needed. Marge REBA HELEN SALAZAR died Dec. 24,1994 Stockton,San Joaquin Co. SILVEIRA AMOS M 03/17/1909 PRIERA MEGAL M CALIFORNIA SAN JOAQUIN 10/22/1993 546-44-3680 84 yrs (was identified as Amos SILVA before, but this is the CADI entry.) --Sheila P.

Note: seperate copy with attachments sent to Sue Silver already -----Original Message----- From: Margie Campbell [mailto:margecam@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 5:44 PM To: Sue Silver Subject: Philip Teare I purchased this certificate. Philip did die at Stockton State Hospital. cert 115 county of San Joaquin (39), city of Stockton, Stockton State Hospital. Philip Teare, white, male born 1825 NY..age 82 at death died 12 March 1907 no parents listed. Informant was his hospital record. Cause of death, Senile Dementia, no contributory causes. Fred Clark was the physician. Buried in Oakland by E J Feircey ???? hard to read. Perhaps someone familiar with Oakland & Alameda county would know. Philip was in hospital for 425 days (1 yr 2mos). In CA 55years He was an attorney at law... worth checking into.. maybe something can be found in the bar records. This looks to be him... born in England, not NY tho... Tear, Philip View Image Online State: New York Year: 1850 County: Monroe Roll: M432_529 Township: Sweden Page: 20 Image: 41 The above was a 26 year old lawyer living in a boarding house. This fits with the age & occupation.. also that the State Hosp records say he was from NY Attached is PHILIPTEARE.JPG census page copy. Marge ps... still checking different census information for him... he should be in the 1900 census Marge

Hello, I sent an email out to this list about a week or so ago about attempting to get an amendment to last year's SB 1614 (Speirs) that will limit access to vital records in California beginning January 1, 2002. I have gotten some good responses and offers of assistance to try to get some modifications to the upcoming limitations. We have an attorney willing to work Pro Bono with the mechanics of the language for an amendment, and will be conferring on that on January 7th. Those of us working on the foundation of this amendment are not trying to overturn SB 1614 altogether, as we just don't feel that will be successful. We are trying to work with the framework and intent of SB 1614, but not to the severity of it. We are presently planning to exempt birth and death records of a certain age. For example, 80 years on birth records and 50 years on death records. (We haven't concluded the exact age of the exemptions we'll request.) We would like to hear from others as to suggestions relative to exemptions of records that may be more fully and readily accessible AND vitals indices that will be permissible for online access. Please send them to me at ssilver1951@jps.net and I will compile the responses for the group. If anyone else has begun to work on a project of this type, we would like to know that also. Perhaps there is a way to work together toward something better than SB 1614 has left us with. Sincerest thanks, Sue Silver, President El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission (a non-profit corporation)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Johnson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/1111 Message Board Post: Need obituary for George Edward Johnson who died in San Joaquin County on 7/11/1945. Thanks!

Could this be the great grandfather, instead of the younger person (note the American mother for Hari) below? SAHOTA AVTAR SINGH 1935 06 13 DADHA MALE RE SAN JOAQUIN 2000 04 11 545755837 64 0 This person died in San Joaquin county.. Marge -----Original Message----- From: Margie Campbell [mailto:margecam@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:19 PM To: CASANJOA-L@rootsweb.com; mames7@yahoo.com Cc: CA-DEATH-INDEX-L; Socal-L@rootsweb.com; Norcal-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CASanJoaquin] Hari S. Sahota Your person looks to have died in Los Angeles county. I am not a member of the SOCAL (Southern CALIF) list, but have forwarded this information to the Calif death index list.. perhaps one of those memebers can forward to Socal list for you. Last_Name First_Name Middle_Name B_yr B_mo B_dy Mothers_Last_Name Fathers_Last_Name Sex Bp County_of_Death D_yr D_mo D_dy SS_Number Age idno SAHOTA HARI S 1948 03 10 BAINS MALE RE LOS ANGELES 1986 03 17 546086235 38 0 (end of page) Good Luck Marge Campbell in Lodi (Sunny today),San Joaquin county CA -----Original Message----- From: mames7@yahoo.com [mailto:mames7@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:30 PM To: CASANJOA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASanJoaquin] Hari S. Sahota This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sahota Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AY.2ADE/1110 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on my husbands great grandfather Hari S. Sahota. I belive that the S. stands for Singh. He was from Punjab, India and was born 3-10-1948. He came here on the Cheyo Maru boat/ship from China to CA. I can't find anything on the boat. He settled in CA and owned a successfull orchard in the Sacramento area. He married an American and had children. He died in 1986. ANY information on his parents or any other family that my have come over to America would be great. His history is unknown and I would love to find out more. I am at a dead end. ______________________________

Your person looks to have died in Los Angeles county. I am not a member of the SOCAL (Southern CALIF) list, but have forwarded this information to the Calif death index list.. perhaps one of those memebers can forward to Socal list for you. Last_Name First_Name Middle_Name B_yr B_mo B_dy Mothers_Last_Name Fathers_Last_Name Sex Bp County_of_Death D_yr D_mo D_dy SS_Number Age idno SAHOTA HARI S 1948 03 10 BAINS MALE RE LOS ANGELES 1986 03 17 546086235 38 0 (end of page) Good Luck Marge Campbell in Lodi (Sunny today),San Joaquin county CA -----Original Message----- From: mames7@yahoo.com [mailto:mames7@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:30 PM To: CASANJOA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASanJoaquin] Hari S. Sahota This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sahota Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AY.2ADE/1110 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on my husbands great grandfather Hari S. Sahota. I belive that the S. stands for Singh. He was from Punjab, India and was born 3-10-1948. He came here on the Cheyo Maru boat/ship from China to CA. I can't find anything on the boat. He settled in CA and owned a successfull orchard in the Sacramento area. He married an American and had children. He died in 1986. ANY information on his parents or any other family that my have come over to America would be great. His history is unknown and I would love to find out more. I am at a dead end. ______________________________

Theresa Williamson of the San Joaquin county recorders office emailed me today & said there is going to be a new process & they are designing the new request forms now. I will keep you all posted. Marge

Ron, I have communicated with the El Dorado County Recorder who queried some of his associates. They have no objection to an amendment allowing records to be viewed and shared similar to the time delay for the US Census. However, they would like someone else to take the lead to obtain such an amendment. I believe from what he indicated, the County Recorders' Association (?) would support it. I worked hard to try to defeat this bill because of the work I do trying to identify who died and was buried in which of our multiple cemeteries in this county. The online index has been a treasure for that work. I believe I may be able to persuade a legislator to introduce a bill for such an amendment, but I think we'd have to submit draft language and a statement of the purpose of such an amendment. Anyone interested in getting together for such a purpose? Sue Silver El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission ssilver1951@jps.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Filion" <ron@plumshire.com> To: <CASANFRA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] new laws regarding birth/death information > Here's more specific information on the bill that was signed into law. I've > included the full text of the amended bill that was originally posted at > <http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_bill_20020625_amen ded_asm.html> > and is still available in Google's cache. I don't know if any of it changed > when it became law. It doesn't appear to have made it into the State's > online list of codes yet. > > The two things that I noticed the most were: > > *"An individual, corporation, or other business entity that purchased a > comprehensive index prepared by the State Registrar pursuant to subdivision > (a) from the State Registrar prior to December 31, 2001, may not use, or > sell, share, or disclose any of the information contained therein to a > third party." > > NOTE: owners of the previous indices CANNOT disclose information to third > parties. Well, if you want a copy of some of these soon-to-be-rare indices, > they are available now for a limited time on ebay.com (just enter > "california birth index" in the search box). > > * "This bill would require the noncomprehensive indices to be available at > the State Registrar's office and in county recorders' offices for public > inspection and viewing only at computer terminals designated for this > purpose, by individuals who have signed a standard form certifying, under > penalty of perjury, that the information they view will not be used for > criminal purposes." > > NOTE: thus, even the new indices will be noncomprehensive. That is, certain > personal indentifying information will probably not be included. > > What is interesting is that, unlike other states, I don't see a time-limit > on the records. That is, if records are say 75 or 100 years old, they are > open to the public. We can only hope for amendments. > > -Ron > > <BEGIN> > > BILL NUMBER: SB 1614 AMENDED > BILL TEXT > > AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY JUNE 25, 2002 > AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 30, 2002 > AMENDED IN SENATE MAY 15, 2002 > AMENDED IN SENATE APRIL 24, 2002 > AMENDED IN SENATE APRIL 15, 2002 > > INTRODUCED BY Senator Speier > > FEBRUARY 21, 2002 > > An act to amend Section 102230 of, and to add Sections 102231 > and 102232 to, the Health and Safety Code, relating to public > records , and making an appropriation therefor . > > > LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST > > > SB 1614, as amended, Speier. Public records: vital statistics. > Existing law requires the Director of Health Services, as the > State Registrar of Vital Statistics, to administer the registration > of births, deaths, fetal deaths, and marriages. Existing law > requires the State Registrar to arrange and permanently preserve the > certificates in a systematic manner and to prepare and maintain a > comprehensive and continuous index of all certificates registered. > > This bill would declare the intent of Legislature to enact > legislation to protect the confidentiality of birth and death record > indices. > Existing law, the California Public Records Act, requires state > and local agencies to make records that are not otherwise exempt from > disclosure available to the public upon receipt of a request that > reasonably describes an identifiable record, and upon payment of fees > to cover costs. > This bill would require the comprehensive index described above, > and birth and death record indices prepared or maintained by local > registrars and county recorders, to be kept confidential, except that > these indices may be disclosed to government agencies as prescribed > by law. This bill would exempt these indices from disclosure under > the California Public Records Act. > This bill would prohibit a government agency from selling or > releasing these indices, except as authorized by law. This bill > would also prohibit specified entities and individuals from releasing > any of the information contained in a comprehensive index purchased > from the State Registrar prior to December 31, 2001, to a 3rd party. > This bill would authorize the department to assess an unspecified > civil penalty to enforce this provision. > This bill would require, on or before January 1, 2004, the State > Registrar to establish separate noncomprehensive electronic indices > of all California birth and death records and make the indices > continuously, electronically available to county recorders' offices > statewide. This bill would appropriate $400,000 to the State > Department of Health Services from the Health Statistics Special Fund > for the purposes of developing the noncomprehensive indices. > This bill would require the noncomprehensive indices to be > available at the State Registrar's office and in county recorders' > offices for public inspection and viewing only at computer terminals > designated for this purpose, by individuals who have signed a > standard form certifying, under penalty of perjury, that the > information they view will not be used for criminal purposes. > This bill would, in order to prevent identity theft and fraud, > permit the release of specified personal information contained in > birth and death data files, as defined, to financial institutions and > consumer credit reporting agencies, as defined, for the sole purpose > of determining if the person whose information is being released is > still living. > By expanding the scope of the crime of perjury, and by increasing > the duties of local officials, this bill would impose a > state-mandated local program. > The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local > agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the > state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that > reimbursement, including the creation of a State Mandates Claims Fund > to pay the costs of mandates that do not exceed $1,000,000 statewide > and other procedures for claims whose statewide costs exceed > $1,000,000. > This bill would provide that with regard to certain mandates no > reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason. > With regard to any other mandates, this bill would provide that, > if the Commission on State Mandates determines that the bill contains > costs so mandated by the state, reimbursement for those costs shall > be made pursuant to the statutory provisions noted above. > Vote: majority 2/3 . > Appropriation: no yes . Fiscal > committee: no yes . State-mandated > local program: no yes . > > > THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: > > > SECTION 1. It is the intent of the Legislature to enact > legislation to protect the confidentiality of birth and death record > indices. > SECTION 1. Section 102230 of the Health and Safety Code is amended > to read: > 102230. (a) (1) The State Registrar shall arrange and > permanently preserve the certificates in a systematic manner and > shall prepare and maintain a comprehensive and > continuous index indices and data files of all certificates registered. > (2) Except as provided in Section 102231, the birth and death > record indices prepared pursuant to paragraph (1), and all birth and > death record indices prepared or maintained by local registrars and > county recorders, shall be kept confidential and shall be exempt from > disclosure under the California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 > (commencing with Section 6250) of Division 7 of Title 1 of the > Government Code). > (3) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the release of the > information contained in comprehensive birth and death record indices > and data files to government agencies as prescribed by law. > (4) Notwithstanding paragraph (2), the State Registrar may release > the indices and data files described in paragraph (1) to any > government agency. A government agency that obtains an index > pursuant to this paragraph may not release any portion of its > contents to any other party. > (b) In addition to the indices prepared pursuant to subdivision > (a), the State Registrar shall prepare separate noncomprehensive > electronic indices of all California birth and death records that > shall be made available for public inspection pursuant to Section > 102231. > (c) A government agency may not sell or release birth and death > record indices prepared and maintained pursuant to subdivision (a) by > the State Registrar or by local registrars and county recorders and > obtained by the government agency, except as authorized by law. > (d) (1) An individual, corporation, or other business entity that > purchased a comprehensive index prepared by the State Registrar > pursuant to subdivision (a) from the State Registrar prior to > December 31, 2001, may not use, or sell, share, or disclose any of > the information contained therein to a third party. > (2) Any person who, in violation of this section uses, sells, > shares, or discloses any information provided pursuant to this > section, or who uses information provided pursuant to this section in > a manner other than as authorized pursuant to this section, may be > denied further access to any personally identifying information or > confidential information maintained by the department. That person > shall also be subject to the assessment of a civil penalty by the > department in the amount of ____ ($____). The penalty provided in > this section shall not be construed as restricting any remedy, > criminal, provisional, or otherwise, provided by law for the benefit > of the department or any person. > (e) The provisions of this section are severable. If any > provision of this section or its application is held invalid, that > invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications that can > be given effect without the invalid provision or application. > > SEC. 2. Section 102231 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to > read: > 102231. (a) On or before January 1, 2004, and contingent upon > funding being made available in the Budget Act or by other > appropriation, the State Registrar shall establish separate > noncomprehensive electronic indices of all California birth and death > records and make the indices continuously, electronically available > to county recorders' offices statewide. Notwithstanding the > California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section > 6250) of Division 7 of Title 1 of the Government Code), no part of > these indices may be released to any individual or entity, except as > authorized by this section or Section 102230 or 102232. > (b) Contingent upon funding being made available in the Budget Act > or by other appropriation, the separate noncomprehensive electronic > indices prepared pursuant to this section shall be available at the > State Registrar's office and in county recorders' offices for public > inspection only at computer terminals designated for this purpose, > and shall be subject to the following restrictions: > (1) Availability to public inspection shall be limited to viewing > only. > (2) An individual who wishes to inspect the indices shall sign a > standard form, as described in subdivision (d), certifying under > penalty of perjury that the information he or she views will not be > used for criminal purposes. Counties shall maintain the signed forms > for seven years from the end of the month of signature. Maintenance > of an electronic image of the form shall be an acceptable means of > complying with this paragraph. > (c) Upon implementation of subdivision (b), the separate > noncomprehensive electronic indices prepared pursuant to this section > shall be the only birth and death record indices open to public > inspection or otherwise available to the public. Nothing in this > section prohibits a disclosure that is authorized by Section 102232. > > (d) The State Registrar shall develop a standard form to be signed > by persons who wish to inspect the indices, pursuant to paragraph > (2) of subdivision (b). > (e) For purposes of this section, "noncomprehensive index" means > an index that contains information, excluding the social security > numbers of deceased persons from death records, that the State > Registrar has selected to include from the comprehensive index > described in paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 102230. The > State Registrar shall determine the information from the > comprehensive index that shall be included in the noncomprehensive > index, based on the lawful uses that may be made of the > noncomprehensive index and the privacy needs of individuals whose > records are included in the index. > (f) The amount of four hundred thousand dollars ($400,000) is > hereby appropriated from the Health Statistics Special Fund to the > department for purposes of developing the noncomprehensive indices > pursuant to subdivision (a). > (g) A county is not required to comply with this section until the > department has completed development of the viewing system, provided > a computer terminal for public inspection purposes to the county, > and established a maintenance agreement on the equipment with the > county. > SEC. 3. Section 102232 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to > read: > 102232. (a) For purposes of Sections 102230 and 102231 and this > section, the following definitions apply: > (1) "Birth data files" means computerized data compiled from birth > certificates registered with the department and maintained pursuant > to Section 102230. > (2) "Death data files" means computerized data compiled from death > certificates registered with the department and maintained pursuant > to Section 102230. > (3) "Person" means any individual, firm, corporation, partnership, > limited liability company, joint venture, or association. > (4) "Personal identifying information" means first name, middle > name, last name, mother's maiden name, and father's surname, and a > social security number that is contained in a death data file. > (5) "Financial institution" means any commercial bank, trust > company, savings and loan association, credit union, industrial loan > company, insurance company, or person engaged in the business of > lending money. > (b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the department > shall not release birth or death data files containing personal > identifying information, except as follows: > (1) Birth data files containing personal identifying information > may be released to other governmental agencies, subject to Sections > 102430 and 102447. > (2) Birth data files containing personal identifying information > may be released to researchers who have received approval for > specific research pursuant to subdivision (c) of Section 102430. > (3) Death data files containing personal identifying information > may be released to persons expressing a valid scientific interest, as > determined by the appropriate committee constituted for the > protection of human subjects that is approved by the United States > Department of Health and Human Services and has a general assurance > pursuant to Part 46 (commencing with Section 46.101) of Title 45 of > the Code of Federal Regulations. > (4) (A) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, in order to > prevent identity theft and fraud, information contained in death data > files may be released to financial institutions, or consumer credit > reporting agencies, as defined in subdivision (d) of Section 1785.3 > of the Civil Code, or their agents and representatives, for the sole > purpose of ascertaining whether an individual is still living. For > purposes of this paragraph, this information shall be limited to > first name, middle name, last name, date of birth, date of death, > mother's maiden name, father's surname, social security number, and > gender. > (B) The information accessed pursuant to this paragraph shall be > limited to the uses described in this paragraph and shall not be > used, sold, shared, or disclosed for profiling or any other purpose > inconsistent with the uses permitted by this paragraph. For the > purposes of this paragraph, "profiling" means the use of statistics > concerning race, ethnicity, disease, or cause of death to classify > customers for a business reason. > (C) Applicants for access to limited death data files shall > complete the written application specified in subdivision (d), and > shall include on that application a statement that the data will be > used solely for the purpose of determining whether individuals are > still living. > (c) Any person who, in violation of this section, uses, sells, > shares, or discloses any information provided pursuant to this > section, or who uses information provided pursuant to this section in > a manner other than as authorized pursuant to this section, may be > denied further access to any personally identifying confidential > information maintained by the department. That person shall also be > subject to the assessment of a civil penalty by the department in the > amount of ____ ($____). The penalty provided in this section shall > not be construed as restricting any remedy, criminal, provisional, or > otherwise, provided by law for the benefit of the department or any > person. > (d) All requests for information pursuant to this section shall be > by written application. The application shall disclose the identity > of the requester and the purpose for which the data is intended. > The application shall contain an affirmation by the requester that > the information shall be maintained in a secure fashion and will not > be transferred, used, sold, shared, or disclosed to another party and > a notice that states, "IT IS A CRIME TO WILLFULLY OBTAIN AND USE > PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION OF ANOTHER FOR ANY UNLAWFUL PURPOSE." > The application shall contain a statement signed by the requester > under penalty of perjury that only the requester will use the data > and only for the purpose identified in the application. > (e) The department shall adopt any regulations necessary to > implement this section as emergency regulations. > (f) The department may establish and impose reasonable charges to > offset the costs of preparing and releasing birth and death data > files. > SEC. 4. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to > Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution for > certain costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school > district because in that regard this act creates a new crime or > infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty > for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the > Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the > meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California > Constitution. > However, notwithstanding Section 17610 of the Government Code, if > the Commission on State Mandates determines that this act contains > other costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to local agencies > and school districts for those costs shall be made pursuant to Part 7 > (commencing with Section 17500) of Division 4 of Title 2 of the > Government Code. If the statewide cost of the claim for > reimbursement does not exceed one million dollars ($1,000,000), > reimbursement shall be made from the State Mandates Claims Fund. > > <END> > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sahota Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AY.2ADE/1110 Message Board Post: I am looking for any information on my husbands great grandfather Hari S. Sahota. I belive that the S. stands for Singh. He was from Punjab, India and was born 3-10-1948. He came here on the Cheyo Maru boat/ship from China to CA. I can't find anything on the boat. He settled in CA and owned a successfull orchard in the Sacramento area. He married an American and had children. He died in 1986. ANY information on his parents or any other family that my have come over to America would be great. His history is unknown and I would love to find out more. I am at a dead end.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Champ, Chamberlain Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AY.2ADE/484.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I'm just a volunteer that posted some obits - no relation to any of those posted. I did a seach of the CA death index and neither of your two showed.....did find the following on the SSDI BLANCHE L CHAMP 22 Dec 1920 02 Feb 1994 64779 (Rich Hill, Bates, MO) (none specified) 492-26-1708 Missouri SS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry ROLLIE CHAMP 29 Nov 1915 Mar 1986 64779 (Rich Hill, Bates, MO) (none specified) 486-07-1188 Missouri SS-5 Letter Add Post-em Search Ancestry.com you should go on the website and use the Add Postem link to leave a message for others to find that are researching the same individuals - it's a great way to contact others

Hi all... I was looking up an obit when I came across this story in the Stockton Daily Evening Record dated 24 Feb 1879, page 4. Dreadful Calamity! Explosion of a Steam Boiler on a Public Street! Fifteen Persons Killed and 39 injured! List of the killed & wonded! NOTE: It's a long article, so I will only highlight here.. I do intend to put this story on my website (hoping for this lifetime). Last Saturday at 2:30 pm several hundred persons gathered on El Dorado street bridge,at the head of Stockton channel, to witness the trial of a newly patented propeller pump. Some were present out of mere curiosity, others because of their friendship for th epatentees, and hoping that the new invention might prove to be a grand success, while others were in attendance for the purpose of judging of the practical test with a view of utilizing the new patent on their farms in the event of the trial proving satisfactory. The pump was placed perpendicularly in the water a short distance from the northwest corner of the bridge, with a spout or trough consierably larger than an ordinary sluce-box used by miners, leading from the pump a few feet to show to spectators the volume of water raised. A short distance from the pump and nearer to the middle of the bridge, the portable engine that was to supply the power was plced. The engine was in charge of Mr E. F. AVERY, one of the patentees of the invention. While assembled spectators were anxiously awaiting the commencement of operations, and not imagining that they were in the least danger, the engine suddenly exploded, INSTANTLY KILLING 15 PERSONS, And seriously wounding many more. NOTE: The reporter goes on to describe the horrid sight of mutilated bodies, etc... (must have been paid by the word back then)... I will now list the dead & wounded. Marge All died Feb 22, 1879 in Stockton, unless another date given: Michael CROWELL, native of Galway, Ireland, age 41 Robert B JOHNSON, native of England, age 71 Charles M CREAMER, age 22 William Henry BISHOP, age 20 yr, 1 mo. George Washington FULTS, age 52, died Feb 23, 1879, native of Watertown, Jefferson county, NY John M. KIRKPATRICK, aged 40 yrs, native of IL. James CuRRY, native of Ireland, age 62. James COSGROVE, a native of County Cork, Ireland, age 40 yrs William ALLEN, a native of Ireland, 58 yrs. ----- There is another obit section also.. which includes a poem & a tribute. What a horrific happening this must have been.. almost all the funerals were on the same day, from the same church... can you imagine the procession by horse and buggy? Marge in Lodi, CA

Your welcome Michele... -----Original Message----- From: mafair [mailto:mafair@erols.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 6:17 AM To: Margie Campbell Subject: Re: San Joaquin DCT request Thanks a bunch, Marge! Although I can't claim him as a relative, I'll forward the info to several other Fair researchers who should be able to find a limb for him on the correct family tree. Best -- Michele Margie Campbell wrote: >No obit.. but not surprising.. as he did die at the Stockton State Hospital. >Also, does not show in city directories (include SJCo), cemetery books, etc. >Cremations done by the State Hospital were done at what is now Delta >College. Once cremated, the cremains were buried in mass graves. A small >possibility is the cremains being housed at San Joaquin County Hospital in >French Camp. I have a sneaking suspicion that many of these thousands of >cremains are of State Hospital inmates. One can call the pathology >department at San Joaquin County Hospital & if they have the cremains.. they >will tell you how you can claim them for burial. >-------------------------------------------------- > >place of death: district #3950 Registered # 538 > >Stockton State Hospital 23 ward. >Robert Fair >Male, White, Single born 1878 >was a messinger boy. >died June 5, 1926. > >born in California... no family information > >Was in state hospital 25 yrs, 7 mos, 4 days. > >was under doctors care from Jan 6, 1926-June 5, 1926. >Died of General Arteriosclerosis & Psychosis was a contributing factor... > >Fred Coyningham was the attending. > >All information on patient from hospital records. >Cremated at the State Hosp Crematory #1001 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >That's it.. about par for State Hospital.. so won't give you much. > >This guy was born in 1878, so would have been 2 years old in 1880. >He was put in the hospital at age 23... wow, so young! Would love to hear >the family story on this one. >Marge > >

-----Original Message----- From: Margie Campbell [mailto:margecam@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:11 AM To: mafair@erols.com Cc: norbyc@mail.yosemite.cc.ca.us; coe@ainet.com; DULCICH6@aol.com; SheleeBebo@aol.com; dheran@ix.netcom.com Subject: RE: San Joaquin DCT request No obit.. but not surprising.. as he did die at the Stockton State Hospital. Also, does not show in city directories (include SJCo), cemetery books, etc. Cremations done by the State Hospital were done at what is now Delta College. Once cremated, the cremains were buried in mass graves. A small possibility is the cremains being housed at San Joaquin County Hospital in French Camp. I have a sneaking suspicion that many of these thousands of cremains are of State Hospital inmates. One can call the pathology department at San Joaquin County Hospital & if they have the cremains.. they will tell you how you can claim them for burial. -------------------------------------------------- place of death: district #3950 Registered # 538 Stockton State Hospital 23 ward. Robert Fair Male, White, Single born 1878 was a messinger boy. died June 5, 1926. born in California... no family information Was in state hospital 25 yrs, 7 mos, 4 days. was under doctors care from Jan 6, 1926-June 5, 1926. Died of General Arteriosclerosis & Psychosis was a contributing factor... Fred Coyningham was the attending. All information on patient from hospital records. Cremated at the State Hosp Crematory #1001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- That's it.. about par for State Hospital.. so won't give you much. This guy was born in 1878, so would have been 2 years old in 1880. He was put in the hospital at age 23... wow, so young! Would love to hear the family story on this one. Marge -----Original Message----- From: mafair@erols.com [mailto:mafair@erols.com] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 1:51 PM To: Margie Campbell Subject: Re: San Joaquin DCT request Thanks! Margie Campbell wrote: > I haven't been doing lookups while I am in school. I have forwarded this to > the Norcal & SanJoaquin lists... If you don't hear from someone... I may > have some time at the end of October. > Marge > > -----Original Message----- > From: mafair@erols.com [mailto:mafair@erols.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:41 AM > To: margecam@attbi.com > Subject: San Joaquin DEC request > > Hi Marge -- > > According to the CASANJOA list, you've graciously offered to do DCTs. > Could you please look up the DCT for Robert Fair, who died 6/5/1926 in > San Joaquin Co. at the age of 48? I'm trying to determine if he's the > same Robert Fair listed in the 1880 census as living in San Francisco. > I'd also appreciate an obit if one's available. > > thanks so much -- > Michele Fair > Alexandria, VA

-----Original Message----- From: Margie Campbell [mailto:margecam@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:33 PM To: CA-DEATH-INDEX-L; NORCAL-D@rootsweb.com Cc: SheleeBebo@aol.com; CA-SanJoa-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Look up requests-duplicates Hi. I just got back from the San Joaquin county recorders office. I had submitted 7 death certificate requests... and when I got there.. someone else had submitted over 1 dozen, my 7 were among those. Furthermore... there were about half dozen or so that I have already done months ago. This is partially my fault, since I was contacted off the list, I didn't think to check the list or post that I was doing these. I did request the submitter's let me know if they get help from someone else... two did. To make it easier we need to make sure we are all in sync here... We have a new volunteer in SJcounty.. she is really eager to help... our recorders office is very busy... so I have the following tips to save us all time & trouble: 1. If you don't have a death date, actual county of death.. but want to just hunt around to see if you find your person... don't ask for a death certificate transcription.. ask someone to check the city directories, cemeteries, etc. for your person. (There were several requests that I had already checked for in this batch, trust me, if I can find a way to locate a death certificate, I would have done so...if I say not there, then not there or given information not correct). 2. If you have all the information from the social security death index/CA death index, then when you post & get a reply from a volunteer, make sure to let the list know & make sure to let any other person who volunteers to help know who the other volunteer is. It really is upsetting to make a special trip (30+ miles round trip for me), pay for parking & find that someone else is doing the same request. This was a two day trip.. drop the requests off & then return to view them.. two days... 60+ miles... and parking... 3. There was a huge list of one family's surnames... if you are a paid genealogist, don't ask us to do your job for you. If you are being paid.. then you need to be paying the lookup persons expenses. I have seen requests for 15+ names at a time. Be realistic. 4. There is nothing more upsetting than finding that you have given a name & date for someone and it turns out they died in another state. Do your homework first. I think what we need is a website link that will allow us to get requests specifically for our county. It is a simple method.. Just a mailto link with a predetermined subject line... "DCT San Joaquin county". The note goes to the volunteer or mail list administrator, who forwards to ONE volunteer only... no dupes that way. I am going to ammend my site this week to include a note to please let me know if the request has been posted elsewhere.. and I will let the mail list hosts know I have a request... even if from my website. Sorry to be so winded... just a lot of precious time wasted... and must be very discouraging for a new volunteer. Marge -----Original Message----- From: NORCAL-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NORCAL-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:05 AM To: NORCAL-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NORCAL-D Digest V02 #1355

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/AY.2ADE/629.633.908.1.1 Message Board Post: I don't know what to tell you that I haven't already posted on this website but are you in Mexico? I don't know where to look there to find out about my grandparents. I think their church may have been Our Lady of Guadalupe there.. At least it was in Houston, Texas when they arrived here in the United States. Any Information you can give me to help us find our connection would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/AY.2ADE/629.633.908.1 Message Board Post: My great grandfather was from San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalisco area. He had a lot of kids. My grandfather's name was Jesus Becerra.

http://www.behindthename.com/ HULDAH f Biblical Pronounced: HUL-da Means "weasel" in Hebrew. This name appears in the Old Testament belonging to a prophetess. HULDA (1) f Scandinavian, German Derived from archaic Swedish huld meaning "sweet, lovable". It's not a nickname.. it's an actual name. I have a couple Huldah women in my Swedish research line. Hope this helps! Marge Campbell -----Original Message----- From: deron & kellywells [mailto:deronkellywells@rsvl.net] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:43 AM To: CASANJOA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASanJoaquin] I need help with an unusual nickname Hello, Sorry that this is off-topic, I don't know who else I could ask about this. Is anyone out there familiar with old-fashioned nicknames? The reason why I ask is because I have 3 CDV's and a tintype of the same woman who I think is one of my 2nd great-grandfather's sisters. Written on the back of one CDV is this: For Charlie from your sister "Hulda" (the name Hulda was in quotation marks). I know the picture was for my 2nd great grandfather Charles William Bickford. His sisters' names were Elizabeth E., Augusta E. and Sarah M. (I don't know yet what the middle initial stood for). Does anyone know what "Hulda" could have been a nickname for? Thanks so much for your help, trying to figure this out is really bugging me. Regards, Kelly ______________________________

It might be for Sarah, it sounds familiar to me. I hope someone has a baby name book--it would probably be in there. deron & kellywells wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry that this is off-topic, I don't know who else I could ask about this. Is anyone out there familiar with old-fashioned nicknames? The reason why I ask is because I have 3 CDV's and a tintype of the same woman who I think is one of my 2nd great-grandfather's sisters. Written on the back of one CDV is this: > > For Charlie from your sister "Hulda" (the name Hulda was in quotation marks). > > I know the picture was for my 2nd great grandfather Charles William Bickford. His sisters' names were Elizabeth E., Augusta E. and Sarah M. (I don't know yet what the middle initial stood for). Does anyone know what "Hulda" could have been a nickname for? Thanks so much for your help, trying to figure this out is really bugging me. > > Regards, > Kelly > > >