Hi Ruth, Gosh you guys are so helpful on this list. Even though I have had her obit from the Sf Examiner for about 12 years I never thought that the SF Call would have different info! Someone sent me the obit today and it actually has a tiny clue in it!!! (Thanks George) The SF Examiner didn't say anything about [Boston Copy] which is a HUGE clue back to John working as a piano forter in Boston in 1857-1860 approx. then they must marry because there next two children were born in St. Louis in 1861/1863 and they head to Sf by 1867. The Boston Copy info is a great clue! I do have the other obit but it also doesn't have any thing about the Chenery St. info. They lived along Chenery up until 1911. I have John in a timeline from about 1869-1911 when he dies in SF. All the children grew up and also lived there (Johnson & Dean, Riley). I'm still am going to try to find the "SF Mortality Schedule" but this was totally an unexpected bit of info! Thank you, Cathie