This has been going around in E-mails for quite a few years. My grandmother and her siblings went to the Salina school. Her father-Norma Reed was on the school board according to the History of Kansas. I read the exam and agree I could never pass it and I graduated from high school. Pat Morano > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:32:01 -0700 > From: Barb C > Subject: [CASANFRA] 1895 Exam/Snopes Claim > To: "Rootsweb, San Francisco Genealogy" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > NO... According to Snopes, the following CLAIM on their website page, > http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.asp, is false: CLAIM: "An 1895 > graduation examination for public school students demonstrates a shocking > decline in educational standards." But the CLAIM isn't at issue here, as it > is an attempt at a comparison of then and now. 1895 was a different time and a > different place. The EXAM was real, and it exists today at the Smoky Valley > Genealogical Society located in Salina, Saline County, Kansas. > http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/saline/ Barb > _________________________________________________________________ > Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. > http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:18:45 -0700 > From: carolyn > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] 8th grade exam -CA TEACHERS EXAM 1883 > To: Doug Urbanus > Cc: casanfra-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <47FF9D75.4050006@sti.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I have a copy of "California Teacher and Home Journal"-Vol. 2. > Official Organ of the Department of Public Instruction > San Francisco: No. 508 Montgomery Street > 1883 > > I have extracted information from the following pages 217-220, Chapter > Heading Oct 1883, under the section: "News From The Schools" > . > ----------------------- > Following are some of the questions propounded at the late meeting of > the Inyo County Board of Education to applicants for county > certificates. It will be seen that though Inyo County County is not the > largest field for educational development, it is determined to make the > proficiency of its preceptors an established and recognized fact. > GENERAL QUESTIONS: State your full name, age, birthplace. Where > educated? What experience in teaching? What certificates, diplomas or > letters of recommendation, if any, do you now possess? What educational > works have you read, and what educational journals do you now read? What > proofs have you of a good moral character? Did you deposit a fee of one > dollar with the County Superintendent? > (What follows is a long list of questions under various headings. I > have just posted a few of them here) > ORTHOGRAPHY: schottische, quiescent, zouave, merino, inscroll, dernier, > ichneumon, hemstitch, quinsy (this is just a few of the words in the list) > GRAMMAR: Of what do the following treat, viz: Orthography? Etymology? > Syntax? Prosody? Analysis? Define five figures of rhetoric. Give five > rules of syntax. > ARITHMETIC: Hypotenuse 50, base and perpendicular equal . Find them. > Define a cubic prime. A water tank is 3 1/2 feet wide and 5 1/2 feet > long. How deep must it be to hold 8 hogsheads? A man owned a square > filed containing 10 acres. He gave enough from it for a street 4 eons > wide all around it. How much land did he have left? > GEOGRAPHY: What is climate, and upon what does it chiefly depend? > Illustrate the following, viz: delta, estuary, oasis, small circle, > zenith, archipelago, lagoon and nadir. Bound the North temperate zone > and name the principal division in each. What and where are the > following: Hainon, Sincoe, Loffoden, Balira, Bass, Baikal, Manmee, > Girronde, Sing Sing and San Quentin( we know this one!) > READING: What are the divisions of expression? Name seven general > divisions of modulation. Name and define 5 styles of prose and 5 > varieties of poetry? > THEORY and PRACTICE OF TEACHING: What is the best method of teaching > morals? How should a teacher rank in society? How do you ventilate your > classrooms in winter? > -------------------- > These are just a few of the many questions. > > Carolyn Feroben > http://www.mariposaresearch.net/ > > > > Doug Urbanus wrote: > > >My mom was born in Salina Kansas. She would agree that she would never have > gotten out of 8th grade if she had stayed. Heck she would never gotten out of > 12th. On the other hand she could have named all the parts of speech. I > listened recently to a talk by the Provost of the Defense Language Institute in > Monterey California. While those who successfully apply have demonstrated an > aptitude for language, almost every student had to be taught the elemental > structure of the English language before they proceeded to being taught > languages of varying difficulty (Spanish to Pashtun). They can't diagram a > sentence. They don't know what diagraming a sentence represents. By the way my > mom taught me. So at least for one question I could have passed. > > > > > >Barb C wrote: > >I spoke with Norma Goodman, volunteer librarian at the Smoky Valley Genealogy > Society and Library in Saline, Kansas, yesterday to confirm they have this test > at their location. Indeed they do! > > > >(And yes, it is spelled 'Smoky'.) > > > >Barb > > > > > > > >>From: goldsdlf@lamar.colostate.edu> To: norcal@rootsweb.com; > casANFRA-L@rootsweb.com; stlouis-mo@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:57:49 > -0600> Subject: [CASANFRA] 8th grade exam...> > I wrote Judie Cook and sent her > another website about the high school test.... I can not imagine 8th grade > students taking such a test.... my mother, finished high school in a small MO > town and took the teacher certification test and passed it like many other young > ladies across the nation in the early 1920's. She taught grade school for a few > years. She could not have begun to pass this test....> > The true Genealogist > always says "let's prove a find at least three times".... and at this point in > time I do not think this test has been proven once. One person said their > grandparents had taken the test...... where is the data that shows it was the > same test. Check the following:> > > http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/1895exam.htm> > I'm becoming extremely > worried that several > >> > >> > > historic! > >al documents are not proven....... a Civil War Expert in our Genealogical > Society pointed out the fallacies within several letters found in the "Civil War > Letter" site via Google the other day..... He couldn't even find the "signers" > of some letters listed in the Civil War Veteran records. There are some > "smoothies" out there that can rake in a few bucks by selling fake documents.> > > The role of the professional Genealogists and Genealogical Societies world wide, > are increasing daily.... namely, encouraging researchers to not take everything > that is printed on the internet as a proven fact..... seek reliable proof, a > half dozen times if need be.> > Kenneth L. Goldsberry> Pres. Larimer County CO > Genealogical Society> > www.lcgsco.org > **************************> Visit > SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------