On the Bay Bridge photo - comparing the photo to the SF History Center's collection, it appears to be sometime prior to 18 June 1935 taken from Alameda or thereabouts. Jim glassbybeth@aol.com wrote: >Thanks Jim,? here they are on my website. > > >http://www.beth-website.net/SF-maybe.html > > > >?Beth >Out of the Attic .. >www.Beth-website.net > >Friends don't let friends get a DOG ! >Cats Rule ............ Dogs Drool ! >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

I have a small booklet on the history of Matson ships. Two could be what you have. The Manini and the Malama. The Manini was hit and sunk by a Japanese sub on Dec.17, 1941 in the South Pacific. Under shortened sail they drifted for 12 days before being rescued. One of the seamen died and the captain conducted services in the life boat. Bill ps Jim Moore of the shipyards was a president of the Society of California Pioneers.\ -----Original Message----- From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of glassbybeth@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:23 PM To: CASANFRA@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASANFRA] SF Pictures........ Thanks Jim,? here they are on my website. http://www.beth-website.net/SF-maybe.html

The two ships are the Manukai and the Manulani, put into service in 1921. Never heard of the "USSBSS Bohemian Club". Have to look it up. Jim glassbybeth@aol.com wrote: >Thanks Jim,? here they are on my website. > > >http://www.beth-website.net/SF-maybe.html > > > >?Beth >Out of the Attic .. >www.Beth-website.net > >Friends don't let friends get a DOG ! >Cats Rule ............ Dogs Drool ! >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

The Moore Shipyard was in Oakland. Bill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore_Dry_Dock_Company -----Original Message----- From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of glassbybeth@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:23 PM To: CASANFRA@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASANFRA] SF Pictures........ Thanks Jim,? here they are on my website.

Hi Beth, Can's send attachments to the list. They were stripped. You can put on your website for viewing or can send them direct to individuals. Please send a copy of your email with attachments, Jim glassbybeth@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > >S. F. Photos....... No Dates? .... Any info would be welcomed.? Thanks > > > > > > >View full size > > > > > > >Bay Bridge being built.? No date. >fm Humphrey Estate. > > > > > >View full size > > > >"? "Mannlani" & "Mannteki"? ???(or Marlani & Manrteki ?) > of the Matson line under Construction at Moore's." >Handwriting is poor, not sure of spelling.? Believe Moore Shipdock to be in SF?? Right? >Fm Humphrey Estate. > > > > > >View full size > > > > > >"? U.S.S.B.S.S.? "Bohemian Club" in the Ways." >fm Humphrey Estate > > > >?Beth >Out of the Attic .. >www.Beth-website.net > >Friends don't let friends get a DOG ! >Cats Rule ............ Dogs Drool ! >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

/David, You have the name of the mortuary (actually N. Gray). I would take a look at the mortuary record. Researchity.com would have the one you want. In fact, I would bet on it. Ron -------------------------------------------------------- From:/ "David E. Cann" < decann@infionline.net <mailto:decann@infionline.net>> /Subject:/ [CASANFRA] Archie E. Cann (1854-1934) /Date:/ Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:29:04 -0400 Several weeks ago, I posted to this list a query seeking information on the death of my g-grandfather. ... According to his obit, his funeral was handled ". . .by Grays, Divisidero street at Post with interment private." ... The obituary answered a few questions, but also open up another one, of where he was buried. If any of you experts out there have any clues in where to look next, I welcome any suggestions large or small. I thank you in advance for anything you are able to share with me. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net <mailto:decann@infionline.net>

I have a copy of "California Teacher and Home Journal"-Vol. 2. Official Organ of the Department of Public Instruction San Francisco: No. 508 Montgomery Street 1883 I have extracted information from the following pages 217-220, Chapter Heading Oct 1883, under the section: "News From The Schools" . ----------------------- Following are some of the questions propounded at the late meeting of the Inyo County Board of Education to applicants for county certificates. It will be seen that though Inyo County County is not the largest field for educational development, it is determined to make the proficiency of its preceptors an established and recognized fact. GENERAL QUESTIONS: State your full name, age, birthplace. Where educated? What experience in teaching? What certificates, diplomas or letters of recommendation, if any, do you now possess? What educational works have you read, and what educational journals do you now read? What proofs have you of a good moral character? Did you deposit a fee of one dollar with the County Superintendent? (What follows is a long list of questions under various headings. I have just posted a few of them here) ORTHOGRAPHY: schottische, quiescent, zouave, merino, inscroll, dernier, ichneumon, hemstitch, quinsy (this is just a few of the words in the list) GRAMMAR: Of what do the following treat, viz: Orthography? Etymology? Syntax? Prosody? Analysis? Define five figures of rhetoric. Give five rules of syntax. ARITHMETIC: Hypotenuse 50, base and perpendicular equal . Find them. Define a cubic prime. A water tank is 3 1/2 feet wide and 5 1/2 feet long. How deep must it be to hold 8 hogsheads? A man owned a square filed containing 10 acres. He gave enough from it for a street 4 eons wide all around it. How much land did he have left? GEOGRAPHY: What is climate, and upon what does it chiefly depend? Illustrate the following, viz: delta, estuary, oasis, small circle, zenith, archipelago, lagoon and nadir. Bound the North temperate zone and name the principal division in each. What and where are the following: Hainon, Sincoe, Loffoden, Balira, Bass, Baikal, Manmee, Girronde, Sing Sing and San Quentin( we know this one!) READING: What are the divisions of expression? Name seven general divisions of modulation. Name and define 5 styles of prose and 5 varieties of poetry? THEORY and PRACTICE OF TEACHING: What is the best method of teaching morals? How should a teacher rank in society? How do you ventilate your classrooms in winter? -------------------- These are just a few of the many questions. Carolyn Feroben http://www.mariposaresearch.net/ Doug Urbanus wrote: >My mom was born in Salina Kansas. She would agree that she would never have gotten out of 8th grade if she had stayed. Heck she would never gotten out of 12th. On the other hand she could have named all the parts of speech. I listened recently to a talk by the Provost of the Defense Language Institute in Monterey California. While those who successfully apply have demonstrated an aptitude for language, almost every student had to be taught the elemental structure of the English language before they proceeded to being taught languages of varying difficulty (Spanish to Pashtun). They can't diagram a sentence. They don't know what diagraming a sentence represents. By the way my mom taught me. So at least for one question I could have passed. > > >Barb C <calibarbi@hotmail.com> wrote: >I spoke with Norma Goodman, volunteer librarian at the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society and Library in Saline, Kansas, yesterday to confirm they have this test at their location. Indeed they do! > >(And yes, it is spelled 'Smoky'.) > >Barb > > > >>From: goldsdlf@lamar.colostate.edu> To: norcal@rootsweb.com; casANFRA-L@rootsweb.com; stlouis-mo@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:57:49 -0600> Subject: [CASANFRA] 8th grade exam...> > I wrote Judie Cook and sent her another website about the high school test.... I can not imagine 8th grade students taking such a test.... my mother, finished high school in a small MO town and took the teacher certification test and passed it like many other young ladies across the nation in the early 1920's. She taught grade school for a few years. She could not have begun to pass this test....> > The true Genealogist always says "let's prove a find at least three times".... and at this point in time I do not think this test has been proven once. One person said their grandparents had taken the test...... where is the data that shows it was the same test. Check the following:> > http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/1895exam.htm> > I'm becoming extremely worried that several >> >> > historic! >al documents are not proven....... a Civil War Expert in our Genealogical Society pointed out the fallacies within several letters found in the "Civil War Letter" site via Google the other day..... He couldn't even find the "signers" of some letters listed in the Civil War Veteran records. There are some "smoothies" out there that can rake in a few bucks by selling fake documents.> > The role of the professional Genealogists and Genealogical Societies world wide, are increasing daily.... namely, encouraging researchers to not take everything that is printed on the internet as a proven fact..... seek reliable proof, a half dozen times if need be.> > Kenneth L. Goldsberry> Pres. Larimer County CO Genealogical Society> > www.lcgsco.org > **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> > > >

NO... According to Snopes, the following CLAIM on their website page, http://www.snopes.com/language/document/1895exam.asp, is false: CLAIM: "An 1895 graduation examination for public school students demonstrates a shocking decline in educational standards." But the CLAIM isn't at issue here, as it is an attempt at a comparison of then and now. 1895 was a different time and a different place. The EXAM was real, and it exists today at the Smoky Valley Genealogical Society located in Salina, Saline County, Kansas. http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/saline/ Barb _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A

This came from Eastman's Online Genealogy list. Thought it would be of interest to some. Patti Potentially Fraudulent Sites Posing as Genealogy Websites Writing in the Ancestry.com blog, Mike Ward is warning other genealogists of fraudulent web sites posing as genealogy sites. These sites take your credit card information and provide little in return. Mike writes: We have recently become aware of three websites purporting to allow family history research: SearchYourGenealogy.com, Ancestry-search.com and Australian-Ancestry.com. The sites claim to have “the largest online genealogical search tool” and promote themselves as the foremost resources for genealogy, but from what we can tell, these sites are nothing more than a series of web pages with links to other services. These sites, in our opinion, are clearly fraudulent. On each site, potential customers are lured to purchase under what we feel to be false, misleading and deceitful promotional material, and get little or no value out of money spent at the websites. Blog and message board posts from the community confirm this opinion. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2008/04/potentially-fra.html

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Jim, I thank you for the reply, but I do not know WHERE he was buried, and that is the problem. It could have been SF, Astoria, or even Nova Scotia as I said, and I only speculated that he may even have been buried at sea. Until I can determine where, there is little point in guessing. Thank you anyway. I am not familiar with SF searches, but if could somehow find out where it would at least give me some direction. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net -----Original Message----- From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Xfiremar@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2008 11:26 AM To: casanfra@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Subject: Archie E. Cann (1854-1934) David: As another Santa Clara raised guy, I also lived in Astoria, OR for a number of years. You might try looking for a burial in that area. The City of Astoria owns and operates the largest cemetery in that area, Ocean View Cemetery which is located in Warrenton, OR. There are a number of smaller cemeteries, some with online data bases that you can search. I have never found one for Ocean View online. You can also try contacting Gray in San Francisco and see if they have the disposition for his remains. I.E. where the remains were shipped for final burial. Many times "Private Internment" meant that the services were for family only and not that the location was to be withheld. I have found that most funeral homes are willing to share their files with descendants seeing family. A respectful approach and a willingness to wait for their help has always worked for me. If you are not in the S.F. area, try calling them then follow up with a written request and enclose a self addressed, stamped envelope with any fees they may require to search their archives.. Jim in OR

Herman drowned in 1928. I'll send the news article in a moment. At 07:03 PM 4/10/2008, Linda Hamid wrote: >Hi list, > > > >I am trying to help this lady find info on her uncle. I can't find him in CA >death index. Does anyone have any ideas? > > > >Linda Hamid > >Sweetwater Poultry > >email: <mailto:sweeth2o1@gmail.com> sweeth2o1@gmail.com > >web: <http://www.sweeth2o.us> www.sweeth2o.us > > _____ > >From: Becky [mailto:becky_lyn@hotmail.com] >Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:01 PM >To: sweeth2o1@gmail.com >Subject: California Death > > > >Linda, > > > >I am trying to find the death date and death circumstances of my Uncle. His >name was Herman Smit but went by Smith. He was born in Michigan 4 Dec 1888. >Both parents were Dutch. He joined the army at the Presidio (WWI) and when >got out he stayed in California. As far as I know he never married. He was >an egg candler and is on the 1920 census. I was told my now deceased Aunt >that Herman was murdered and his body was found in the SF Bay, she thought >early 1930. I think it is possible that he commited suicide. I am thinking >that is was earlier than that. His burial was paid for by the egg candlers >union, but do not know where he is buried. Any help would be appreciated as >I live in Michigan, so resourses are very limited for this information. >Thanking you in advance, Lynne > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list, I am trying to help this lady find info on her uncle. I can't find him in CA death index. Does anyone have any ideas? Linda Hamid Sweetwater Poultry email: <mailto:sweeth2o1@gmail.com> sweeth2o1@gmail.com web: <http://www.sweeth2o.us> www.sweeth2o.us _____ From: Becky [mailto:becky_lyn@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:01 PM To: sweeth2o1@gmail.com Subject: California Death Linda, I am trying to find the death date and death circumstances of my Uncle. His name was Herman Smit but went by Smith. He was born in Michigan 4 Dec 1888. Both parents were Dutch. He joined the army at the Presidio (WWI) and when got out he stayed in California. As far as I know he never married. He was an egg candler and is on the 1920 census. I was told my now deceased Aunt that Herman was murdered and his body was found in the SF Bay, she thought early 1930. I think it is possible that he commited suicide. I am thinking that is was earlier than that. His burial was paid for by the egg candlers union, but do not know where he is buried. Any help would be appreciated as I live in Michigan, so resourses are very limited for this information. Thanking you in advance, Lynne

David: As another Santa Clara raised guy, I also lived in Astoria, OR for a number of years. You might try looking for a burial in that area. The City of Astoria owns and operates the largest cemetery in that area, Ocean View Cemetery which is located in Warrenton, OR. There are a number of smaller cemeteries, some with online data bases that you can search. I have never found one for Ocean View online. You can also try contacting Gray in San Francisco and see if they have the disposition for his remains. I.E. where the remains were shipped for final burial. Many times "Private Internment" meant that the services were for family only and not that the location was to be withheld. I have found that most funeral homes are willing to share their files with descendants seeing family. A respectful approach and a willingness to wait for their help has always worked for me. If you are not in the S.F. area, try calling them then follow up with a written request and enclose a self addressed, stamped envelope with any fees they may require to search their archives.. Jim in OR **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

My mom was born in Salina Kansas. She would agree that she would never have gotten out of 8th grade if she had stayed. Heck she would never gotten out of 12th. On the other hand she could have named all the parts of speech. I listened recently to a talk by the Provost of the Defense Language Institute in Monterey California. While those who successfully apply have demonstrated an aptitude for language, almost every student had to be taught the elemental structure of the English language before they proceeded to being taught languages of varying difficulty (Spanish to Pashtun). They can't diagram a sentence. They don't know what diagraming a sentence represents. By the way my mom taught me. So at least for one question I could have passed. Barb C <calibarbi@hotmail.com> wrote: I spoke with Norma Goodman, volunteer librarian at the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society and Library in Saline, Kansas, yesterday to confirm they have this test at their location. Indeed they do! (And yes, it is spelled 'Smoky'.) Barb > From: goldsdlf@lamar.colostate.edu> To: norcal@rootsweb.com; casANFRA-L@rootsweb.com; stlouis-mo@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:57:49 -0600> Subject: [CASANFRA] 8th grade exam...> > I wrote Judie Cook and sent her another website about the high school test.... I can not imagine 8th grade students taking such a test.... my mother, finished high school in a small MO town and took the teacher certification test and passed it like many other young ladies across the nation in the early 1920's. She taught grade school for a few years. She could not have begun to pass this test....> > The true Genealogist always says "let's prove a find at least three times".... and at this point in time I do not think this test has been proven once. One person said their grandparents had taken the test...... where is the data that shows it was the same test. Check the following:> > http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/1895exam.htm> > I'm becoming extremely worried that several historic! al documents are not proven....... a Civil War Expert in our Genealogical Society pointed out the fallacies within several letters found in the "Civil War Letter" site via Google the other day..... He couldn't even find the "signers" of some letters listed in the Civil War Veteran records. There are some "smoothies" out there that can rake in a few bucks by selling fake documents.> > The role of the professional Genealogists and Genealogical Societies world wide, are increasing daily.... namely, encouraging researchers to not take everything that is printed on the internet as a proven fact..... seek reliable proof, a half dozen times if need be.> > Kenneth L. Goldsberry> Pres. Larimer County CO Genealogical Society> > www.lcgsco.org > **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes! in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I spoke with Norma Goodman, volunteer librarian at the Smoky Valley Genealogy Society and Library in Saline, Kansas, yesterday to confirm they have this test at their location. Indeed they do! (And yes, it is spelled 'Smoky'.) Barb > From: goldsdlf@lamar.colostate.edu> To: norcal@rootsweb.com; casANFRA-L@rootsweb.com; stlouis-mo@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 21:57:49 -0600> Subject: [CASANFRA] 8th grade exam...> > I wrote Judie Cook and sent her another website about the high school test.... I can not imagine 8th grade students taking such a test.... my mother, finished high school in a small MO town and took the teacher certification test and passed it like many other young ladies across the nation in the early 1920's. She taught grade school for a few years. She could not have begun to pass this test....> > The true Genealogist always says "let's prove a find at least three times".... and at this point in time I do not think this test has been proven once. One person said their grandparents had taken the test...... where is the data that shows it was the same test. Check the following:> > http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/1895exam.htm> > I'm becoming extremely worried that several historical documents are not proven....... a Civil War Expert in our Genealogical Society pointed out the fallacies within several letters found in the "Civil War Letter" site via Google the other day..... He couldn't even find the "signers" of some letters listed in the Civil War Veteran records. There are some "smoothies" out there that can rake in a few bucks by selling fake documents.> > The role of the professional Genealogists and Genealogical Societies world wide, are increasing daily.... namely, encouraging researchers to not take everything that is printed on the internet as a proven fact..... seek reliable proof, a half dozen times if need be.> > Kenneth L. Goldsberry> Pres. Larimer County CO Genealogical Society> > www.lcgsco.org > **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008

I wrote Judie Cook and sent her another website about the high school test.... I can not imagine 8th grade students taking such a test.... my mother, finished high school in a small MO town and took the teacher certification test and passed it like many other young ladies across the nation in the early 1920's. She taught grade school for a few years. She could not have begun to pass this test.... The true Genealogist always says "let's prove a find at least three times".... and at this point in time I do not think this test has been proven once. One person said their grandparents had taken the test...... where is the data that shows it was the same test. Check the following: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/a/1895exam.htm I'm becoming extremely worried that several historical documents are not proven....... a Civil War Expert in our Genealogical Society pointed out the fallacies within several letters found in the "Civil War Letter" site via Google the other day..... He couldn't even find the "signers" of some letters listed in the Civil War Veteran records. There are some "smoothies" out there that can rake in a few bucks by selling fake documents. The role of the professional Genealogists and Genealogical Societies world wide, are increasing daily.... namely, encouraging researchers to not take everything that is printed on the internet as a proven fact..... seek reliable proof, a half dozen times if need be. Kenneth L. Goldsberry Pres. Larimer County CO Genealogical Society www.lcgsco.org

Several weeks ago, I posted to this list a query seeking information on the death of my g-grandfather. I received several responses with some very good suggestions, which I am still pursuing, and I thank all who responded again for the help. One of those suggestions led me to the San Francisco Library, where I was fortunate enough to receive a copy of his obituary dated 1 May 1934 from the SF Examiner. As you might expect, that answered a few questions, some of which I have been chasing for a few years now, but oddly enough his obit only ENLARGED the question of where he is buried. According to his obit, his funeral was handled ". . .by Grays, Divisidero street at Post with interment private." As someone born and raised in the SF Bay Area (actually, Santa Clara County) I recognize the two street names and assume that means "Grays" was a funeral home located on that corner. However, I take the last few words "interment private" to mean just that, and in view of the fact that he was a ship's captain and spent his life at sea, I have reason to think he was buried at sea, but I do not want to guess. Am I providing enough clues for someone to be able to give me a bit more direction, and possibly be able to confirm his burial at sea or else where he may have been laid to rest? On that note, be aware he was born in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia so that is a possibility because most of his ancestors are from there and he was married (the first time) there. However, he migrated to the Astoria, Oregon area and spent a very major portion of his career there, including a second marriage and naturalization as a U. S. citizen, so that is also a possibility. He is found in the 1930 Federal Census, however, living in San Francisco with his daughter and her husband, and still working as a sea captain at the age of 75. So. . .in a few words, my guess is that he may have been buried in San Francisco or Astoria, Oregon, but both are just that, a guess. The obituary answered a few questions, but also open up another one, of where he was buried. If any of you experts out there have any clues in where to look next, I welcome any suggestions large or small. I thank you in advance for anything you are able to share with me. David E. Cann decann@infionline.net

Posting for Jim. ------------------------------------------------- Subject: SF's Midwinter Fair Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:55:26 -0700 From: James R. Smith <jim@historysmith.com> To: <casanfra@rootsweb.com>, norcal@rootsweb.com Just published a new article on Guidelines for San Francisco's City Guides. You can read it on their website at http://www.sfcityguides.org/public_guidelines.html. Click on /SF's First World's Fair/. I'll be publishing more articles over the next months on the PPIE-1915 and GGIE-1939-40, two for each. All illustrated of course. I have four other articles in their archives as well. Search on Fleishhacker Pool. Great W.W.II shot at the bottom. By the way - City Guides is a great organization should you want to donate some time in the city OR if your looking for a good walking tour. The tours are FREE! Jim -- James R. Smith Author: */San Francisco/**/’s Lost Landmarks/* ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Does anyone know when Presentation High School closed (or if it did) and what happened to the class pictures and memorabilia? I am looking for a photo of my mother c. 1930. Thanks, Pat Our Regan Cousins: http://cousintocousin.tribalpages.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com