Thanks to all who gave me clues on how to obtain a birth certificate. I certainly appreciate the information. Sandra

Looking for information regarding the San Francisco Building And Land Company, Incorporated May 20, 1909. Thanks, Don and Liz

I had Pope family in the Marin area near San Francisco, Oakland, San Mateo and Alameda. The names were Caryl Tolin Pope married Willetta Thorton Sullivan Pope. The children: Cam Pope, David Campbell Pope, John Thomas Pope and Peter Thorton Pope. If any one hss any info on these people it would be deeply appreciated. I'm also looking for information on Grace L. Lehr (also Grace L Lehr Drum Cantin who died 5 Apr 1965 at St Agnews State Hospital. Is there any way to get records from there? In 1948 to 1953 Grace managed the Nine Fifty Franklin Apartments on 950 Franklin Street in San Francisco, CA. Can anyone tell me any info about the apartments and to go about researching her working there and living there? At a brick wall. I think she went by the name of Grace L. Drum while living there. In 1941 she managed the Somerset Apartments on 1111 Pine Street in San Francisco, CA. The parents of Grace lehr were Frank and Laura (Rawson) and lived in San Mateo. Frank was an accountant in the early 1940's. Thank You. Sandy _____ From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of casanfra-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:03 AM To: casanfra@rootsweb.com Subject: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 61

hi- my mom's cousin was adoped by mom's great aunt. (rumor had it my grandmom was her bio. mom and she was adopted within the family) All persons involved in the adoption died years ago. ( the last one in the 1960's) I contacted Sacto Adoption Center for the state- was given an address to write to to request copies of the adoption papers and info. I included copies of death certs for all parties involved. They stood firm in the ruling stating a letter of request must come from the adotpee and any bio. siblings before the info will be released. The adoptee died in the early 50's. I have never been able to prove the family rumor that my mom's cousin was actually her sister. Good luck to you! Joni -- Laugh when you can, Apologize when you should, and let go of what you can't change. Kiss Slowly. Play hard. Forgive Quickly. Take Chances. Give everything and have no regrets. Life is too short to be anything but happy! 3onatryke@comcast.net -------------- Original message -------------- From: "James P. Casey" <jpmcasey@cox.net> > Cassandra: > > I was born in San Francisco in 1924 and was adopted. Although I am > now 84 years of age I cannot obtain my true birth certificate from > either San Francisco or Sacramento. How long does this freeze > continue and is there any way of otherwise finding out who my real > birth parents were. I tired directly at the City of SF records > center, but they deferred to Sacramento and cited the "freeze". > > Thank you, > > Marilouise > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I have the same kind of problem. My GGGrandfather came to San Francisco in 1852 and I have his son's death certificate listing him as father and mother unknown. Family lore says she died shortly after arriving and the kids were all placed in the care of the State after he took off on another adventure. This is a brick wall that I have been completely unable to break through. -----Original Message----- From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James P. Casey Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:36 PM To: casanfra@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASANFRA] True Birth Parents Cassandra: I was born in San Francisco in 1924 and was adopted. Although I am now 84 years of age I cannot obtain my true birth certificate from either San Francisco or Sacramento. How long does this freeze continue and is there any way of otherwise finding out who my real birth parents were. I tired directly at the City of SF records center, but they deferred to Sacramento and cited the "freeze". Thank you, Marilouise ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try VitalChek....I've used them for years and been very satisfied with them.....I don't know what the charges are today...but it's sure worth checking. They are NOT part of Ancestry. www.vitalchek.com good luck, Judie On Apr 22, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Sandra wrote: > I need to get a birth certificate for myself from San Francisco. > When I > went on Ancestry in the Birth listing and then clicked through to > purchase > it, the price was $12 for the certificate and $60 for shipping and > handling! > > > Is there another way to get the certificate? Thanks for any response > on > this. Sandra in Sacramento CA > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Cassandra: I was born in San Francisco in 1924 and was adopted. Although I am now 84 years of age I cannot obtain my true birth certificate from either San Francisco or Sacramento. How long does this freeze continue and is there any way of otherwise finding out who my real birth parents were. I tired directly at the City of SF records center, but they deferred to Sacramento and cited the "freeze". Thank you, Marilouise

Hi Sandra, You can order them direct from the SF Dept. of Health by mail. that's probably the fastest way. http://www.sfdph.org/dph/comupg/records/vitalRec/default.asp It works well, Jim Sandra wrote: > I need to get a birth certificate for myself from San Francisco. When I >went on Ancestry in the Birth listing and then clicked through to purchase >it, the price was $12 for the certificate and $60 for shipping and handling! > > >Is there another way to get the certificate? Thanks for any response on >this. Sandra in Sacramento CA > > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Hi, Sandra... I've obtained several birth (and death) certificates from San Francisco. There is no charge if ordering directly from San Francisco. In person is the fastest way, of course. I've never waited longer than 1 hour, ever, when requesting in person. By mail, however, I recently waited 6 months for receipt of the certificate. The time delay by mail has been lengthened because of the recent change in federal law regarding passport issue, which has inundated these types of services at the county level especially. Good luck... Barb > From: sandrah@ix.netcom.com> To: casanfra@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:30:12 -0700> Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] getting a birth certificate from San Francisco> > I need to get a birth certificate for myself from San Francisco. When I> went on Ancestry in the Birth listing and then clicked through to purchase> it, the price was $12 for the certificate and $60 for shipping and handling!> > > Is there another way to get the certificate? Thanks for any response on> this. Sandra in Sacramento CA> > > **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Make i'm yours.  Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN_Make_IM_Yours

Try here: http://www.sfdph.org/dph/comupg/records/vitalRec/default.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra" <sandrah@ix.netcom.com> To: <casanfra@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] getting a birth certificate from San Francisco > I need to get a birth certificate for myself from San Francisco. When I > went on Ancestry in the Birth listing and then clicked through to purchase > it, the price was $12 for the certificate and $60 for shipping and > handling! > > > Is there another way to get the certificate? Thanks for any response on > this. Sandra in Sacramento CA > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I need to get a birth certificate for myself from San Francisco. When I went on Ancestry in the Birth listing and then clicked through to purchase it, the price was $12 for the certificate and $60 for shipping and handling! Is there another way to get the certificate? Thanks for any response on this. Sandra in Sacramento CA

The Bay Bridge is owned by CALTRANS and operated by District 4. Bill http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist4/ -----Original Message----- From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:44 AM To: James R. Smith; casanfra@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] FW: need direction... Wow, that is interesting. In my face there also was no body retrieved yet I do have a death certificate. I'll have to dig it out & go over it again just to look at it. I believe it was taken to court to prove she was deceased. I'd start with calling who ever is in charge of the SF-Oak Bay Bridge and see who is the -agency in charge of "jumpers" on that bridge. I haven't heard of too many people jumping off that bridge. Good luck, Theresa Sacramento

Wow, that is interesting. In my face there also was no body retrieved yet I do have a death certificate. I'll have to dig it out & go over it again just to look at it. I believe it was taken to court to prove she was deceased. I'd start with calling who ever is in charge of the SF-Oak Bay Bridge and see who is the -agency in charge of "jumpers" on that bridge. I haven't heard of too many people jumping off that bridge. Good luck, Theresa Sacramento "James R. Smith" <jim@historysmith.com> wrote: Hi Theresa, It was the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge. Neither Alameda nor San Francisco had the death cert - likely because they didn't retrieve his body. Jim Theresa wrote: You should be able to contact Marin Co for death certificate. I had a similiar problem and called the Golden Gate Bridge people first CHP I believe it was. They had told me that all deaths that occur because of jumping off the Golden Gate bridge are recorded in Marin Co. I wrote to Marin Co. for the certificate I was looking for and they sent it to me. It was for a death in 1967-68. Good luck, Theresa "James R. Smith" <jim@historysmith.com> wrote: Hi Linda, Gordon jumped off the Bay Bridge on October 21, 1955. Jim Linda Hamid wrote: >Hi Listers, > > > >I am trying to help this lady (below) find her cousin. I can't find him on >the CA death index, or in the Social Security index. Does anyone have ideas >where else to look? > > > >Thanks in advance > > > >Linda Hamid > >Sweetwater Poultry > >email: sweeth2o1@gmail.com > >web: www.sweeth2o.us > > _____ > >From: mary kahkola [mailto:i-be-leve@msn.com] >Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:51 AM >To: sweeth2o1@gmail.com >Subject: need direction... > > > >Subject: need direction... > > > >My cousin Gordon Rost FLICKEMA was a jumper off the Golden Gate Bridge, late >1940's or early 50's---where would I find an article/obit/inquest about his >death? Do y'all have a reasonably priced researcher I could pay to track >down the particulars? He was born and raised in Michigan, he was married >with 2 daughters at the time. This is all I know about him. > >Thank you in advance! > >Mary Kahkola i-be-leve@msn.com > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please visit my Avon site http://www.youravon.com/tsmalls Thank you My sister's website is: www.mysticaldecor.net if you are looking for gifts for Christmas & birthdays. -- st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com Please visit my Avon site http://www.youravon.com/tsmalls Thank you My sister's website is: www.mysticaldecor.net if you are looking for gifts for Christmas & birthdays.

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I have a certificate that was in the belongings of my Grandfather. It is for 21 Shares of The San Francisco Building And Land Company. The stamp is dated May 20, 1909. We have not been able to find a reference to this document. Have any of you heard of this Company? Thanks, Don and Liz

You should be able to contact Marin Co for death certificate. I had a similiar problem and called the Golden Gate Bridge people first CHP I believe it was. They had told me that all deaths that occur because of jumping off the Golden Gate bridge are recorded in Marin Co. I wrote to Marin Co. for the certificate I was looking for and they sent it to me. It was for a death in 1967-68. Good luck, Theresa "James R. Smith" <jim@historysmith.com> wrote: Hi Linda, Gordon jumped off the Bay Bridge on October 21, 1955. Jim Linda Hamid wrote: >Hi Listers, > > > >I am trying to help this lady (below) find her cousin. I can't find him on >the CA death index, or in the Social Security index. Does anyone have ideas >where else to look? > > > >Thanks in advance > > > >Linda Hamid > >Sweetwater Poultry > >email: sweeth2o1@gmail.com > >web: www.sweeth2o.us > > _____ > >From: mary kahkola [mailto:i-be-leve@msn.com] >Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:51 AM >To: sweeth2o1@gmail.com >Subject: need direction... > > > >Subject: need direction... > > > >My cousin Gordon Rost FLICKEMA was a jumper off the Golden Gate Bridge, late >1940's or early 50's---where would I find an article/obit/inquest about his >death? Do y'all have a reasonably priced researcher I could pay to track >down the particulars? He was born and raised in Michigan, he was married >with 2 daughters at the time. This is all I know about him. > >Thank you in advance! > >Mary Kahkola i-be-leve@msn.com > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please visit my Avon site http://www.youravon.com/tsmalls Thank you My sister's website is: www.mysticaldecor.net if you are looking for gifts for Christmas & birthdays.

Wow - took 4 days for delivery. Strange! Jim James R. Smith wrote: >Hi Linda, > >Gordon jumped off the Bay Bridge on October 21, 1955. > >Jim > > >Linda Hamid wrote: > > > >>Hi Listers, >> >> >> >>I am trying to help this lady (below) find her cousin. I can't find him on >>the CA death index, or in the Social Security index. Does anyone have ideas >>where else to look? >> >> >> >>Thanks in advance >> >> >> >>Linda Hamid >> >>Sweetwater Poultry >> >>email: <mailto:sweeth2o1@gmail.com> sweeth2o1@gmail.com >> >>web: <http://www.sweeth2o.us> www.sweeth2o.us >> >> _____ >> >>From: mary kahkola [mailto:i-be-leve@msn.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:51 AM >>To: sweeth2o1@gmail.com >>Subject: need direction... >> >> >> >>Subject: need direction... >> >> >> >>My cousin Gordon Rost FLICKEMA was a jumper off the Golden Gate Bridge, late >>1940's or early 50's---where would I find an article/obit/inquest about his >>death? Do y'all have a reasonably priced researcher I could pay to track >>down the particulars? He was born and raised in Michigan, he was married >>with 2 daughters at the time. This is all I know about him. >> >>Thank you in advance! >> >>Mary Kahkola i-be-leve@msn.com >> >>************************** >>Visit SFGenealogy.com! >>http://www.sfgenealogy.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Hi Nancy, Thank you so much for checking all those city directories, etc. I really appreciate your efforts. Carol **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Carol, I checked the SF City Directories years, 1899, 1900, 1903, 1908, 1910, 1912, 1917, 1921, 1923 & 1925, and could not find the surname Sporemann/Sporman. I also checked the Classified of each year mentioned, with no success. Sorry, Nancy Pratt Melton Golden Nugget Library npmelton@yahoo.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~npmelton/index.html

Need help in dating a photograph. Does anyone know of a Sporemann/Sporman, or similar spelling, photography studio in business on Mission St. in San Francisco? And approximately what years it was open. Might be around 1900. Thank you for any help you can provide. Carol **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)