Obviously I am older than dirt. I remember streetcars, cable cars, jitneys, etc. I lived on Santa Rosa Ave. and went to High School on Pine street. Every day I took a bus from San Jose Ave., transferred to a streetcar at 12th and Market, and then transferred to a cable car for the ride from Powell and Market to Pine Street. Every afternoon for four years, I did the whole thing in reverse. By the way, cable cars were a mode of transportation, not a tourist ride. There was a "car barn" on San Jose Ave. near Ocean Ave. or Geneva, a little past Balboa Park, and they sold bus tickets for students. Sixteen rides for 50 cents. Heaven help you, if you lost the ticket before all the rides were used. The driver punched a small hole in a number along the side to show it had been used. The Jitneys in our neighborhood were on Mission Street in the Excelsior district. I remember it was quite a luxury for a blue collar family member to be able to take a jitney downtown. I think it cost a quarter, or perhps less, but it was an automobile that followed a route to downtown and back, and carried perhaps six to eight people. There was also a street car, a number 40, if I a remember correctly, that went south as far as Palo Alto or Menlo Park. I "think" it might have stopped at the cemeteries, but by today's standards, it only made a few stops along the way after it left San Francisco. It was not a train though. I should mention that all this took place in 1950. Pat Our Regan Cousins: http://cousintocousin.tribalpages.com   --- On Sun, 6/22/08, James R. Smith <jim@historysmith.com> wrote: > From: James R. Smith <jim@historysmith.com> > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request > To: "Barb C" <calibarbi@hotmail.com> > Cc: "casanfra@rootsweb.com" <casanfra@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 1:09 PM > Hi Adrienne, > > Street cars were single car trolleys, first horse drawn, > then (and now) > electric that ran on tracks throughout the city with the > exception of > the steep hills. There we used cable cars. There were a > number of > competing street car companies like the Market Street > Railway, > Divisidero Electric Car Line and the Municipal Railway > (Muni). Now only > Muni is left & it's owned by the city. My great > uncle Harry Wiles was a > Muni conductor. I have a great shot of him in his uniform. > > Go to > http://www.sfpl.org/librarylocations/sfhistory/sfphoto.htm > and > enter street car in the search field. > > San Francisco has a great collection of classic street cars > that remain > in daily service. They also have stinky buses. > > Anybody recall the black Mission Street Jitneys? > > Jim > -- > > James R. Smith > > Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks > > ISBN: 1884995446 > > www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> > > > Barb C wrote: > > >Hi Adrienne... > > > >There are some really great San Francisco historian > list members here, so I have no doubt they'll have some > great information for you. However, I do know that the > 'street cars' weren't trains. When my mother > referred to 'taking a street car', she was > referring to the bus system that ran along cables. > 'Street car' may also refer to the famous cable > cars also, not sure, as I seem to remember that reference > was interchangeable with my family, yet mostly used with > the buses. > > > >My other thought is that possibly someone may have > access to an SF City Directory for your time frame of late > 1880s to early 1890s to see where your Escobar family > lived, as most personal religious events (including masses > and burials) more than likely took place near home, > probably not near work location. Also, someone may know > about street car employee listings (I wonder if he may have > been a City employee?) that might possibly be available. > There might be legal ramifications with a list like that, > if it survived the earthquake/fire, not sure of that > either. Also, I think there are water company records > available. Once you find an address(es), you might > possibly be able to obtain the water records. Then you will > have a more exact time frame. > > > >Also, you probably are aware of the burial relocations > from SF that took place in the early half of the 1900s. > You would also probably know that SFgenealogy.com has a > link or links with information about those relocations. If > you find their address, you might find a local Catholic > Church and go from there. Once you have a particular church > name or names, you may have a better chance of locating > information in the Menlo Park records that are available. > > > >Those are my thoughts... good luck... Barb > > > > > > > > > > > >>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:10:20 -0700> From: > hattula1902@yahoo.com> To: CASANFRA@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car > Request> > Hi, All Sweet Listers.> > Thank you > for listening to this new request. I would like to make an > new exciting request for my great grandfather Antonio F > Escobar aka A. F. Escobar or Antone Fran De Escobar or > Antone F. Escobar below. Let me write what it says exactly > in Los Alamos Progress for Former Resident, per an item. > > > I think an item means an one information in a > small section is printed to let everyone to know. > > > Transcription:> > Will be of great interest to our > readers. Send in the names of former residents and tell us > where they are and what they are doing. )> > On > January 4, 1890, A. F. Escobar is running a street car in > San Francisco. > > Few days ago, I got a letter from > Los Alamos History Society and said to myself, > "Wow" for 2 babies Nora Escobar. In fact, two > babies(not twins) died on same year of 1890 in San > Francisco City, which it made sense to me. From I > understand, from Los Alamos, Nora Escobar´s mother Jennie > Escobar aka Joanna Silva took a first baby Nora Escobar to > San Francisco City early before January,1890 when she was > pregnant with second baby Nora Escobar. > > According > to the San Francisco Call obituary, a second baby Nora > Escobar died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City > from bad milk. I believe that a first baby Nora Escobar > died on May 8, 1890 in San Francsico City. There are no > cemetery records found everywhere due to by fire through by > earthquake or records are missing for some reasons. I will > try mortuary records later. > > I learned from a > curator Andrew Galvan that Records of Burials for Misión > San Francisco de Asís are missing. I believe that the > babies are buried there. I may be wrong. I learned that > many Spanish and Portuguese who got married there in past > history. Perhaps, Joana Silva and Antonio F. Escobar got > married there(or in Santa Barbara County) in around 1888. > > > For San Francisco City area, I have few new > requests below for you, if please, would you be able to > give me feedback? > > 1. Is street car standing for a > cable or a train on railroad? Is that correct?> > 2. > Where is an occupation record(street car) for Antonio F. > Escobar on the year of 1890(maybe early in Winter, 1889)? > First baby Nora Escobar was born on March 29, 1889(or May > 25, 1889) in Los Alamos, Santa Barbara County. and died on > May 8, 1890 in San Francisco City. A second baby Nora > Escobar was born on month of June, 1890 in San Francisco > City and died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City. > > > A year later, Mamie Escobar aka Maymie or Maria > Escobar was born on month of June, 1891 or 1892 in San > Francisco City? or Sacramento. On month of January,1893, > Mamie´s brother Antonio F. Escobar was born in Port Costa, > California. Their parents were heading back to Los Alamos, > California on month of January. On February 18, 1894, Louis > Escobar was born in Los Alamos. > > Recently, I > learned new information on this below. > > In the > Alamos Central newspaper, A. F. Escobar, Prop worked at > restaurant and lodging house for 25 cents for a meal and 25 > cents for lodgings. It is on business and professional cards > in the newspaper! I did not know that! In around 1900´s, he > also worked for pony express for Los Alamos area. > > > 3. Where did he work at for street car area?> > 4. > Where are the cemetery site or Mortuary site closest by > street car area? > > I need to find Nora Escobar´s > cemetery site. I know it is not easy to find them somewhere > in San Francisco City. I have a rare photo of Nora > Escobar´s headstone, but no information is written about > where burial place is. :-( BUT, I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT NEW > INFORMATION FROM LOS ALAMOS NEWSPAPER AT THIS MOMENT! Wait > and see. I bet babies Nora Escobar are waiting for me. > :-)> > Thank you very much. > > Adrienne > Stefanik > > **************************> Visit > SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the > list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live > Messenger. > >http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008 > >************************** > >Visit SFGenealogy.com! > >http://www.sfgenealogy.com > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > James R. Smith > > Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks > > ISBN: 1884995446 > > www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> > > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

My memories of Market St, 1930s. Bill http://americahurrah.com/SanFrancisco/Memories/sfmemStreetcars.html

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Hi All, My great-grandfather, John F. McClory, was a conductor on the Market Street Railway in the early 1900's. I found that in the 1901 San Francisco phonebook. According to the 1900 census, they rented a flat on Lyons Street. It appears that John passed away before the 1920 census as he is not listed, although my great-aunt, grandmother and great-uncle are listed in the household. As a kid, I remember the adults referring to the streetcar as a "car," especially the older generation. And, yes, they were single car entities - no trains. I know that they also called elevators "cars" but that was different, of course, especially at 450 Sutter. We lived just south of the B Car line on Geary Street, out on 44th. A block and a half south was the C Car line that ran out Geary, turned at 33rd and headed for the beach on Balboa. The A Car line, I believe, ran out California at terminated at the car barn at 32nd and Clement (my grandmother ran the small restaurant across the street on 33rd and Clement during WWII). More than you ever wanted to know, I'm sure. The only train that I know of was the train that ran out to Sutro Baths along the Gate coastline past Baker's Beach. I believe it was called the Sutro Railway. Yes, Jim, I do remember the Mission Street jitneys. My mother worked at Nurseryman's Exchange on Howard St after WWII (after graduating from Heald College on Van Ness) and moved with them to 6th and Bryant in the 60's. The jitneys were a regular sight running up and down Howard St even when I was a kid back in the 50's. Mike -----Original Message----- From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James R. Smith Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:09 PM To: Barb C Cc: casanfra@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request Hi Adrienne, Street cars were single car trolleys, first horse drawn, then (and now) electric that ran on tracks throughout the city with the exception of the steep hills. There we used cable cars. There were a number of competing street car companies like the Market Street Railway, Divisidero Electric Car Line and the Municipal Railway (Muni). Now only Muni is left & it's owned by the city. My great uncle Harry Wiles was a Muni conductor. I have a great shot of him in his uniform. Go to http://www.sfpl.org/librarylocations/sfhistory/sfphoto.htm and enter street car in the search field. San Francisco has a great collection of classic street cars that remain in daily service. They also have stinky buses. Anybody recall the black Mission Street Jitneys? Jim -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> Barb C wrote: >Hi Adrienne... > >There are some really great San Francisco historian list members here, so I have no doubt they'll have some great information for you. However, I do know that the 'street cars' weren't trains. When my mother referred to 'taking a street car', she was referring to the bus system that ran along cables. 'Street car' may also refer to the famous cable cars also, not sure, as I seem to remember that reference was interchangeable with my family, yet mostly used with the buses. > >My other thought is that possibly someone may have access to an SF City Directory for your time frame of late 1880s to early 1890s to see where your Escobar family lived, as most personal religious events (including masses and burials) more than likely took place near home, probably not near work location. Also, someone may know about street car employee listings (I wonder if he may have been a City employee?) that might possibly be available. There might be legal ramifications with a list like that, if it survived the earthquake/fire, not sure of that either. Also, I think there are water company records available. Once you find an address(es), you might possibly be able to obtain the water records. Then you will have a more exact time frame. > >Also, you probably are aware of the burial relocations from SF that took place in the early half of the 1900s. You would also probably know that SFgenealogy.com has a link or links with information about those relocations. If you find their address, you might find a local Catholic Church and go from there. Once you have a particular church name or names, you may have a better chance of locating information in the Menlo Park records that are available. > >Those are my thoughts... good luck... Barb > > > > > >>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:10:20 -0700> From: hattula1902@yahoo.com> To: CASANFRA@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request> > Hi, All Sweet Listers.> > Thank you for listening to this new request. I would like to make an new exciting request for my great grandfather Antonio F Escobar aka A. F. Escobar or Antone Fran De Escobar or Antone F. Escobar below. Let me write what it says exactly in Los Alamos Progress for Former Resident, per an item. > > I think an item means an one information in a small section is printed to let everyone to know. > > Transcription:> > Will be of great interest to our readers. Send in the names of former residents and tell us where they are and what they are doing. )> > On January 4, 1890, A. F. Escobar is running a street car in San Francisco. > > Few days ago, I got a letter from Los Alamos History Society and said to myself, "Wow" for 2 babies Nora Escobar. In fact, two babies(not twins) died on same year of 1890 in San Francisco City, which it made sense to me. From I understand, from Los Alamos, Nora Escobar´s mother Jennie Escobar aka Joanna Silva took a first baby Nora Escobar to San Francisco City early before January,1890 when she was pregnant with second baby Nora Escobar. > > According to the San Francisco Call obituary, a second baby Nora Escobar died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City from bad milk. I believe that a first baby Nora Escobar died on May 8, 1890 in San Francsico City. There are no cemetery records found everywhere due to by fire through by earthquake or records are missing for some reasons. I will try mortuary records later. > > I learned from a curator Andrew Galvan that Records of Burials for Misión San Francisco de Asís are missing. I believe that the babies are buried there. I may be wrong. I learned that many Spanish and Portuguese who got married there in past history. Perhaps, Joana Silva and Antonio F. Escobar got married there(or in Santa Barbara County) in around 1888. > > For San Francisco City area, I have few new requests below for you, if please, would you be able to give me feedback? > > 1. Is street car standing for a cable or a train on railroad? Is that correct?> > 2. Where is an occupation record(street car) for Antonio F. Escobar on the year of 1890(maybe early in Winter, 1889)? First baby Nora Escobar was born on March 29, 1889(or May 25, 1889) in Los Alamos, Santa Barbara County. and died on May 8, 1890 in San Francisco City. A second baby Nora Escobar was born on month of June, 1890 in San Francisco City and died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City. > > A year later, Mamie Escobar aka Maymie or Maria Escobar was born on month of June, 1891 or 1892 in San Francisco City? or Sacramento. On month of January,1893, Mamie´s brother Antonio F. Escobar was born in Port Costa, California. Their parents were heading back to Los Alamos, California on month of January. On February 18, 1894, Louis Escobar was born in Los Alamos. > > Recently, I learned new information on this below. > > In the Alamos Central newspaper, A. F. Escobar, Prop worked at restaurant and lodging house for 25 cents for a meal and 25 cents for lodgings. It is on business and professional cards in the newspaper! I did not know that! In around 1900´s, he also worked for pony express for Los Alamos area. > > 3. Where did he work at for street car area?> > 4. Where are the cemetery site or Mortuary site closest by street car area? > > I need to find Nora Escobar´s cemetery site. I know it is not easy to find them somewhere in San Francisco City. I have a rare photo of Nora Escobar´s headstone, but no information is written about where burial place is. :-( BUT, I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT NEW INFORMATION FROM LOS ALAMOS NEWSPAPER AT THIS MOMENT! Wait and see. I bet babies Nora Escobar are waiting for me. :-)> > Thank you very much. > > Adrienne Stefanik > > **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >_________________________________________________________________ >Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. >http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_W L_Refresh_messenger_062008 >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. 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Some nice shots of the Sutro Railroad on that site as well. Jim Mindspring wrote: >Hi All, > >My great-grandfather, John F. McClory, was a conductor on the Market Street >Railway in the early 1900's. I found that in the 1901 San Francisco >phonebook. According to the 1900 census, they rented a flat on Lyons Street. >It appears that John passed away before the 1920 census as he is not listed, >although my great-aunt, grandmother and great-uncle are listed in the >household. > >As a kid, I remember the adults referring to the streetcar as a "car," >especially the older generation. And, yes, they were single car entities - >no trains. I know that they also called elevators "cars" but that was >different, of course, especially at 450 Sutter. We lived just south of the >B Car line on Geary Street, out on 44th. A block and a half south was the C >Car line that ran out Geary, turned at 33rd and headed for the beach on >Balboa. The A Car line, I believe, ran out California at terminated at the >car barn at 32nd and Clement (my grandmother ran the small restaurant across >the street on 33rd and Clement during WWII). More than you ever wanted to >know, I'm sure. > >The only train that I know of was the train that ran out to Sutro Baths >along the Gate coastline past Baker's Beach. I believe it was called the >Sutro Railway. > >Yes, Jim, I do remember the Mission Street jitneys. My mother worked at >Nurseryman's Exchange on Howard St after WWII (after graduating from Heald >College on Van Ness) and moved with them to 6th and Bryant in the 60's. The >jitneys were a regular sight running up and down Howard St even when I was a >kid back in the 50's. > >Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of James R. Smith >Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:09 PM >To: Barb C >Cc: casanfra@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request > >Hi Adrienne, > >Street cars were single car trolleys, first horse drawn, then (and now) >electric that ran on tracks throughout the city with the exception of >the steep hills. There we used cable cars. There were a number of >competing street car companies like the Market Street Railway, >Divisidero Electric Car Line and the Municipal Railway (Muni). Now only >Muni is left & it's owned by the city. My great uncle Harry Wiles was a >Muni conductor. I have a great shot of him in his uniform. > >Go to http://www.sfpl.org/librarylocations/sfhistory/sfphoto.htm and >enter street car in the search field. > >San Francisco has a great collection of classic street cars that remain >in daily service. They also have stinky buses. > >Anybody recall the black Mission Street Jitneys? > >Jim > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Sure, the Jitneys - ah... ~~those were the days~~~ :-)) Thanks for the memory, Jim... Also some great pix at the site you sent..... Thanks.... Ruth ____________________ Ruth (Grady) Skewis ruth4527@mindspring.com > -----Original Message----- > From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James R. Smith > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:09 PM > To: Barb C > Cc: casanfra@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request > > Hi Adrienne, > > Street cars were single car trolleys, first horse drawn, then > (and now) electric that ran on tracks throughout the city > with the exception of the steep hills. There we used cable > cars. There were a number of competing street car companies > like the Market Street Railway, Divisidero Electric Car Line > and the Municipal Railway (Muni). Now only Muni is left & > it's owned by the city. My great uncle Harry Wiles was a Muni > conductor. I have a great shot of him in his uniform. > > Go to > http://www.sfpl.org/librarylocations/sfhistory/sfphoto.htm > and enter street car in the search field. > > San Francisco has a great collection of classic street cars > that remain in daily service. They also have stinky buses. > > Anybody recall the black Mission Street Jitneys? > > Jim > -- > > James R. Smith > > Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks > > ISBN: 1884995446 > > www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> > > > Barb C wrote: > > >Hi Adrienne... > > > >There are some really great San Francisco historian list > members here, so I have no doubt they'll have some great > information for you. However, I do know that the 'street > cars' weren't trains. When my mother referred to 'taking a > street car', she was referring to the bus system that ran > along cables. 'Street car' may also refer to the famous cable > cars also, not sure, as I seem to remember that reference was > interchangeable with my family, yet mostly used with the buses. > > > >My other thought is that possibly someone may have access to > an SF City Directory for your time frame of late 1880s to > early 1890s to see where your Escobar family lived, as most > personal religious events (including masses and burials) more > than likely took place near home, probably not near work > location. Also, someone may know about street car employee > listings (I wonder if he may have been a City employee?) that > might possibly be available. There might be legal > ramifications with a list like that, if it survived the > earthquake/fire, not sure of that either. Also, I think > there are water company records available. Once you find an > address(es), you might possibly be able to obtain the water > records. Then you will have a more exact time frame. > > > >Also, you probably are aware of the burial relocations from > SF that took place in the early half of the 1900s. You would > also probably know that SFgenealogy.com has a link or links > with information about those relocations. If you find their > address, you might find a local Catholic Church and go from > there. Once you have a particular church name or names, you > may have a better chance of locating information in the Menlo > Park records that are available. > > > >Those are my thoughts... good luck... Barb > > > >

Hi Adrienne, Street cars were single car trolleys, first horse drawn, then (and now) electric that ran on tracks throughout the city with the exception of the steep hills. There we used cable cars. There were a number of competing street car companies like the Market Street Railway, Divisidero Electric Car Line and the Municipal Railway (Muni). Now only Muni is left & it's owned by the city. My great uncle Harry Wiles was a Muni conductor. I have a great shot of him in his uniform. Go to http://www.sfpl.org/librarylocations/sfhistory/sfphoto.htm and enter street car in the search field. San Francisco has a great collection of classic street cars that remain in daily service. They also have stinky buses. Anybody recall the black Mission Street Jitneys? Jim -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> Barb C wrote: >Hi Adrienne... > >There are some really great San Francisco historian list members here, so I have no doubt they'll have some great information for you. However, I do know that the 'street cars' weren't trains. When my mother referred to 'taking a street car', she was referring to the bus system that ran along cables. 'Street car' may also refer to the famous cable cars also, not sure, as I seem to remember that reference was interchangeable with my family, yet mostly used with the buses. > >My other thought is that possibly someone may have access to an SF City Directory for your time frame of late 1880s to early 1890s to see where your Escobar family lived, as most personal religious events (including masses and burials) more than likely took place near home, probably not near work location. Also, someone may know about street car employee listings (I wonder if he may have been a City employee?) that might possibly be available. There might be legal ramifications with a list like that, if it survived the earthquake/fire, not sure of that either. Also, I think there are water company records available. Once you find an address(es), you might possibly be able to obtain the water records. Then you will have a more exact time frame. > >Also, you probably are aware of the burial relocations from SF that took place in the early half of the 1900s. You would also probably know that SFgenealogy.com has a link or links with information about those relocations. If you find their address, you might find a local Catholic Church and go from there. Once you have a particular church name or names, you may have a better chance of locating information in the Menlo Park records that are available. > >Those are my thoughts... good luck... Barb > > > > > >>Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:10:20 -0700> From: hattula1902@yahoo.com> To: CASANFRA@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request> > Hi, All Sweet Listers.> > Thank you for listening to this new request. I would like to make an new exciting request for my great grandfather Antonio F Escobar aka A. F. Escobar or Antone Fran De Escobar or Antone F. Escobar below. Let me write what it says exactly in Los Alamos Progress for Former Resident, per an item. > > I think an item means an one information in a small section is printed to let everyone to know. > > Transcription:> > Will be of great interest to our readers. Send in the names of former residents and tell us where they are and what they are doing. )> > On January 4, 1890, A. F. Escobar is running a street car in San Francisco. > > Few days ago, I got a letter from Los Alamos History Society and said to myself, "Wow" for 2 babies Nora Escobar. In fact, two babies(not twins) died on same year o! f 1890 in San Francisco City, which it made sense to me. From I understand, from Los Alamos, Nora Escobar´s mother Jennie Escobar aka Joanna Silva took a first baby Nora Escobar to San Francisco City early before January,1890 when she was pregnant with second baby Nora Escobar. > > According to the San Francisco Call obituary, a second baby Nora Escobar died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City from bad milk. I believe that a first baby Nora Escobar died on May 8, 1890 in San Francsico City. There are no cemetery records found everywhere due to by fire through by earthquake or records are missing for some reasons. I will try mortuary records later. > > I learned from a curator Andrew Galvan that Records of Burials for Misión San Francisco de Asís are missing. I believe that the babies are buried there. I may be wrong. I learned that many Spanish and Portuguese who got married there in past history. Perhaps, Joana Silva and Antonio F. Escobar got married there(or in S! anta Barbara County) in around 1888. > > For San Francisco Cit! y area, I have few new requests below for you, if please, would you be able to give me feedback? > > 1. Is street car standing for a cable or a train on railroad? Is that correct?> > 2. Where is an occupation record(street car) for Antonio F. Escobar on the year of 1890(maybe early in Winter, 1889)? First baby Nora Escobar was born on March 29, 1889(or May 25, 1889) in Los Alamos, Santa Barbara County. and died on May 8, 1890 in San Francisco City. A second baby Nora Escobar was born on month of June, 1890 in San Francisco City and died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City. > > A year later, Mamie Escobar aka Maymie or Maria Escobar was born on month of June, 1891 or 1892 in San Francisco City? or Sacramento. On month of January,1893, Mamie´s brother Antonio F. Escobar was born in Port Costa, California. Their parents were heading back to Los Alamos, California on month of January. On February 18, 1894, Louis Escobar was born in Los Alamos. > > Recently, I learned new informa! tion on this below. > > In the Alamos Central newspaper, A. F. Escobar, Prop worked at restaurant and lodging house for 25 cents for a meal and 25 cents for lodgings. It is on business and professional cards in the newspaper! I did not know that! In around 1900´s, he also worked for pony express for Los Alamos area. > > 3. Where did he work at for street car area?> > 4. Where are the cemetery site or Mortuary site closest by street car area? > > I need to find Nora Escobar´s cemetery site. I know it is not easy to find them somewhere in San Francisco City. I have a rare photo of Nora Escobar´s headstone, but no information is written about where burial place is. :-( BUT, I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT NEW INFORMATION FROM LOS ALAMOS NEWSPAPER AT THIS MOMENT! Wait and see. I bet babies Nora Escobar are waiting for me. :-)> > Thank you very much. > > Adrienne Stefanik > > **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> -------------------------------> T! o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-! request@ rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >_________________________________________________________________ >Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. >http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008 >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. 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I have the city directories for 1875 and 1879 and did not find any Escobars in either. Bill -----Original Message----- From: casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:casanfra-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb C Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:41 AM To: hattula1902@yahoo.com; casanfra@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request Hi Adrienne... There are some really great San Francisco historian list members here, so I have no doubt they'll have some great information for you. However, I do know that the 'street cars' weren't trains. When my mother referred to 'taking a street car', she was referring to the bus system that ran along cables. 'Street car' may also refer to the famous cable cars also, not sure, as I seem to remember that reference was interchangeable with my family, yet mostly used with the buses. My other thought is that possibly someone may have access to an SF City Directory for your time frame of late 1880s to early 1890s to see where your Escobar family lived

Hi Adrienne... There are some really great San Francisco historian list members here, so I have no doubt they'll have some great information for you. However, I do know that the 'street cars' weren't trains. When my mother referred to 'taking a street car', she was referring to the bus system that ran along cables. 'Street car' may also refer to the famous cable cars also, not sure, as I seem to remember that reference was interchangeable with my family, yet mostly used with the buses. My other thought is that possibly someone may have access to an SF City Directory for your time frame of late 1880s to early 1890s to see where your Escobar family lived, as most personal religious events (including masses and burials) more than likely took place near home, probably not near work location. Also, someone may know about street car employee listings (I wonder if he may have been a City employee?) that might possibly be available. There might be legal ramifications with a list like that, if it survived the earthquake/fire, not sure of that either. Also, I think there are water company records available. Once you find an address(es), you might possibly be able to obtain the water records. Then you will have a more exact time frame. Also, you probably are aware of the burial relocations from SF that took place in the early half of the 1900s. You would also probably know that SFgenealogy.com has a link or links with information about those relocations. If you find their address, you might find a local Catholic Church and go from there. Once you have a particular church name or names, you may have a better chance of locating information in the Menlo Park records that are available. Those are my thoughts... good luck... Barb > Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:10:20 -0700> From: hattula1902@yahoo.com> To: CASANFRA@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CASANFRA] Antonio F. Escobar and a Street Car Request> > Hi, All Sweet Listers.> > Thank you for listening to this new request. I would like to make an new exciting request for my great grandfather Antonio F Escobar aka A. F. Escobar or Antone Fran De Escobar or Antone F. Escobar below. Let me write what it says exactly in Los Alamos Progress for Former Resident, per an item. > > I think an item means an one information in a small section is printed to let everyone to know. > > Transcription:> > Will be of great interest to our readers. Send in the names of former residents and tell us where they are and what they are doing. )> > On January 4, 1890, A. F. Escobar is running a street car in San Francisco. > > Few days ago, I got a letter from Los Alamos History Society and said to myself, "Wow" for 2 babies Nora Escobar. In fact, two babies(not twins) died on same year of 1890 in San Francisco City, which it made sense to me. From I understand, from Los Alamos, Nora Escobar´s mother Jennie Escobar aka Joanna Silva took a first baby Nora Escobar to San Francisco City early before January,1890 when she was pregnant with second baby Nora Escobar. > > According to the San Francisco Call obituary, a second baby Nora Escobar died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City from bad milk. I believe that a first baby Nora Escobar died on May 8, 1890 in San Francsico City. There are no cemetery records found everywhere due to by fire through by earthquake or records are missing for some reasons. I will try mortuary records later. > > I learned from a curator Andrew Galvan that Records of Burials for Misión San Francisco de Asís are missing. I believe that the babies are buried there. I may be wrong. I learned that many Spanish and Portuguese who got married there in past history. Perhaps, Joana Silva and Antonio F. Escobar got married there(or in Santa Barbara County) in around 1888. > > For San Francisco City area, I have few new requests below for you, if please, would you be able to give me feedback? > > 1. Is street car standing for a cable or a train on railroad? Is that correct?> > 2. Where is an occupation record(street car) for Antonio F. Escobar on the year of 1890(maybe early in Winter, 1889)? First baby Nora Escobar was born on March 29, 1889(or May 25, 1889) in Los Alamos, Santa Barbara County. and died on May 8, 1890 in San Francisco City. A second baby Nora Escobar was born on month of June, 1890 in San Francisco City and died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City. > > A year later, Mamie Escobar aka Maymie or Maria Escobar was born on month of June, 1891 or 1892 in San Francisco City? or Sacramento. On month of January,1893, Mamie´s brother Antonio F. Escobar was born in Port Costa, California. Their parents were heading back to Los Alamos, California on month of January. On February 18, 1894, Louis Escobar was born in Los Alamos. > > Recently, I learned new information on this below. > > In the Alamos Central newspaper, A. F. Escobar, Prop worked at restaurant and lodging house for 25 cents for a meal and 25 cents for lodgings. It is on business and professional cards in the newspaper! I did not know that! In around 1900´s, he also worked for pony express for Los Alamos area. > > 3. Where did he work at for street car area?> > 4. Where are the cemetery site or Mortuary site closest by street car area? > > I need to find Nora Escobar´s cemetery site. I know it is not easy to find them somewhere in San Francisco City. I have a rare photo of Nora Escobar´s headstone, but no information is written about where burial place is. :-( BUT, I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT NEW INFORMATION FROM LOS ALAMOS NEWSPAPER AT THIS MOMENT! Wait and see. I bet babies Nora Escobar are waiting for me. :-)> > Thank you very much. > > Adrienne Stefanik > > **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_062008

Hi, All Sweet Listers. Thank you for listening to this new request. I would like to make an new exciting request for my great grandfather Antonio F Escobar aka A. F. Escobar or Antone Fran De Escobar or Antone F. Escobar below. Let me write what it says exactly in Los Alamos Progress for Former Resident, per an item. I think an item means an one information in a small section is printed to let everyone to know. Transcription: Will be of great interest to our readers. Send in the names of former residents and tell us where they are and what they are doing. ) On January 4, 1890, A. F. Escobar is running a street car in San Francisco. Few days ago, I got a letter from Los Alamos History Society and said to myself, "Wow" for 2 babies Nora Escobar. In fact, two babies(not twins) died on same year of 1890 in San Francisco City, which it made sense to me. From I understand, from Los Alamos, Nora Escobar´s mother Jennie Escobar aka Joanna Silva took a first baby Nora Escobar to San Francisco City early before January,1890 when she was pregnant with second baby Nora Escobar. According to the San Francisco Call obituary, a second baby Nora Escobar died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City from bad milk. I believe that a first baby Nora Escobar died on May 8, 1890 in San Francsico City. There are no cemetery records found everywhere due to by fire through by earthquake or records are missing for some reasons. I will try mortuary records later. I learned from a curator Andrew Galvan that Records of Burials for Misión San Francisco de Asís are missing. I believe that the babies are buried there. I may be wrong. I learned that many Spanish and Portuguese who got married there in past history. Perhaps, Joana Silva and Antonio F. Escobar got married there(or in Santa Barbara County) in around 1888. For San Francisco City area, I have few new requests below for you, if please, would you be able to give me feedback? 1. Is street car standing for a cable or a train on railroad? Is that correct? 2. Where is an occupation record(street car) for Antonio F. Escobar on the year of 1890(maybe early in Winter, 1889)? First baby Nora Escobar was born on March 29, 1889(or May 25, 1889) in Los Alamos, Santa Barbara County. and died on May 8, 1890 in San Francisco City. A second baby Nora Escobar was born on month of June, 1890 in San Francisco City and died on September 29, 1890 in San Francisco City. A year later, Mamie Escobar aka Maymie or Maria Escobar was born on month of June, 1891 or 1892 in San Francisco City? or Sacramento. On month of January,1893, Mamie´s brother Antonio F. Escobar was born in Port Costa, California. Their parents were heading back to Los Alamos, California on month of January. On February 18, 1894, Louis Escobar was born in Los Alamos. Recently, I learned new information on this below. In the Alamos Central newspaper, A. F. Escobar, Prop worked at restaurant and lodging house for 25 cents for a meal and 25 cents for lodgings. It is on business and professional cards in the newspaper! I did not know that! In around 1900´s, he also worked for pony express for Los Alamos area. 3. Where did he work at for street car area? 4. Where are the cemetery site or Mortuary site closest by street car area? I need to find Nora Escobar´s cemetery site. I know it is not easy to find them somewhere in San Francisco City. I have a rare photo of Nora Escobar´s headstone, but no information is written about where burial place is. :-( BUT, I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT NEW INFORMATION FROM LOS ALAMOS NEWSPAPER AT THIS MOMENT! Wait and see. I bet babies Nora Escobar are waiting for me. :-) Thank you very much. Adrienne Stefanik

The NORCAL VOLUNTEER LOOKUP LIBRARY has been updated. Along with some new weblinks, please check out the "Sacramento Valley and Foothill Counties of California: An Illustrated Description of all the Counties Embraced in this Richly Productive Geographical Subdivision of the Golden State" contributed by Peggy B. Perazzo. The entire books and pictures are on line in the library. Also, we added a new bio "Recollections of a Busy Life" by Eli Ruggles 1904. Please visit and bookmark: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html The library is a wonderful resource including the generous efforts of all our lookup volunteers. If you are listed as a resource in the Library or have contributed a link, please take a moment to be sure your contact info is correct. Enjoy! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Yvonne Bowers Listmom, Webmom NORCAL, SOCAL, CORNISH, CORNISH-GEN, CA-CORNISH http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html

perhaps if you post some of the names that were researched, there are those on the list that might want to just take the information off her/your hands. they would probably even be willing to pay for the shipping or if they coincidently live in the area, come by and pick it up! Love and take care, Cindy Our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but, we are responsible for who we become..... ----- Original Message ----- From: <casanfra-request@rootsweb.com> To: <casanfra@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:03 AM Subject: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > > > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: What do you do when a genealogist dies? (Firebird) > 2. SF High School 1917-1920 (Monte LeBlanc) > 3. Fwd: 8th Grade Exam from 1895 (Judie Cook) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:23:08 +0100 > From: Firebird <sparrer@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] What do you do when a genealogist dies? > To: casanfra@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <47F9D9EC.2020406@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > AlyceTrave@aol.com wrote: > >> Thanks to all who chimed and offered ideas. You have given me thought >> for >> my own research, but I need something practical for my friend. >> Obviously >> since she is not interested in genealogy asking her to input the >> information on >> rootsweb, or donating it to a library is not an option for her. > > I agree that for a non genealogically inclined person to put the > information on Rootsweb is not an option but I don't see why donating > it to a library isn't an option. > >> What she is >> looking for is either "permission" to get rid of a bunch of the stuff or >> some >> help on deciding what to keep. What she needs is a professional >> organizer >> who specializes in genealogy that could help her sort through the stuff >> and >> tell her what to do with it all. > > Just contact the LDS at Salt Lake City and ask if they would like a > donation of x years reseach into y and z families? If they say yes, > which they probably will, send everything off to them. That way it > isn't lost and it can be sorted out either by another member of the > family who is interested or a member of staff. > > Your friend doesn't need permission to destroy any or all of the > research. She can just do it. I would imagine that her late mother > had it organised even if your friend doesn't realise it. > > If there are books on genealogy, offer them to the local library. > > I could sort it out, but if your friend's mother was researching > longer than I have been (40+ years) then there is going to be a *lot* > of material if the amount I have is anything to go by. It would be > far too expensive to parcel it all up and send it to the UK. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:26:06 -0700 > From: Monte LeBlanc <monteleblanc@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [CASANFRA] SF High School 1917-1920 > To: CASANFRA <CASANFRA@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <47F93FEE.2000602@sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > In 1943 and again 1950 Federal work applications, my Grandfather, Walter > C Phillips, lists his High School as J Mission in San Francisco > (1917-1920) Would anyone know know if there was such a high school and > if so what does the "J" stand for? > Thank You in advance > Monte LeBlanc > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 18:59:40 -0400 > From: Judie Cook <granny@liquidgravity.org> > Subject: [CASANFRA] Fwd: 8th Grade Exam from 1895 > To: norcal@rootsweb.com, casanfra@rootsweb.com, > stlouis-mo@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <C3FB7016-5DB3-406A-BABA-EDC7A3C772E6@liquidgravity.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > >> This from a friend whose father was in this class of 95. Whew...! > > Judie > >> >> April 02, 2008 ..8th Grade Exam from 1895 >> >> This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, Kansas, >> USA . It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey >> Valley Geneal ogical Society and Library in Salina, and reprinted by >> the Salina Journal.< /FONT> >> >> 8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS - 1895 >> >> Grammar (Time, one hour) >> 1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters. >> 2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no >> modifications. >> 3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph >> 4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of >> "lie,""play," and "run." >> 5. Define case; illustrate each case. >> 6 What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation. >> 7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that >> you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar. >> >> Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes) >> 1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic. >> 2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many >> bushels of wheat will it hold? >> 3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs., what is it worth at 50cts/ >> bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs. for tare? >> 4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary >> levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have >> $104 for incidentals? >> 5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton. >> 6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent. >> 7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at >> $20 per metre? >> 8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent. >> 9. What is th e co st of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance >> of which is 640 rods? >> 10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt. >> U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes) >> 1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided >> 2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus. >> 3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War. >> 4. Show the territorial growth of the United States. >> 5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas. >> 6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion. >> 7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, >> Penn, and Howe? >> 8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, >> 1849, 1865. >> Orthography (Time, one hour) >> [Do we even know what this is??] >> >> 1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, >> etymology, syllabication >> 2. What are elementary sounds? How classified? >> 3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, >> subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals >> 4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u.' (HUH?) >> 5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two >> exceptions under each rule. >> 6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each. >> 7. Define the following prefixes and use in con nection with a wo >> rd: bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup. >> 8. Mark diacriticall y and divide into syllables the following, and >> name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, >> cell, rise, blood, fare, last. >> 9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, >> fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays. >> 10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate >> pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication. >> >> Geography (Time, one hour) >> >> 1 What is climate? Upon what does climate depend? >> 2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ? >> 3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean? >> 4. Describe the mountains of North America. >> 5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, >> Manitoba, >> Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinw all and Orinoco. >> 6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. >> 7. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each. >> 8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same >> latitude? >> 9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to >> the sources of rivers. >> 10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the >> earth. >> >> Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete. >> >> Gives the saying "he only had an 8th grade education" a whole new >> meaning, doesn't it? >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CASANFRA list administrator, send an email to > CASANFRA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CASANFRA mailing list, send an email to > CASANFRA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CASANFRA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 46 > *************************************** >

Thanks, everyone -- I didn't spot that link on sfgenealogy before, so I have lots more digging to do. I appreciate the kind offers from people who offered to look up names for me, but the project is much bigger than that! Basically, I'm going through page by page, gathering the names and occupations of everyone who lived in Bernal Heights ... eventually, I'll put this together into a gigantic BH database for people who want to research the history of their homes. Sounds crazy, no? It started with a hunt for corner stores and spiraled out from there. Please tell me if you can think of a quicker way of doing this ... or whether someone might have done this already. ;-) Vicky www.bernalhistoryproject.org

Please note that the SF Main Library has the original directories (paper) in stacks at the back for the Microfilm reader area (Oakland as well). Easier to do paper than microfilm. Jim Ron Filion wrote: >Vicky, > >We list all the online directories that we know about. If you or anyone >else sees one that we don't have listed, let us know! :) > >The library did mention that the Internet Archives was suppose to scan >all the city directories and put them online, but I have no idea what >the status of that project is and whether it is still happening. > >So, to answer your question, yes, the SF Main Library beckons you. >Though, I would go to the Newspaper center on the 5th floor. The >directories are available on the shelves. If you don't see what you >want, they also have them on microfilm and microfiche (for the really >early ones). > >Ron Filion >sfgenealogy > > >>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:57:03 -0700 >>From: "Vicky Walker" <vicky.walker@gmail.com> >>Subject: [CASANFRA] SF City Directories online? >>To: "casanfra@rootsweb.com" <casanfra@rootsweb.com> >> >>I'm working on a giant and somewhat foolhardy project that will involve >>going through all the city directories. I found the 1922 directory online >>via your site at distantcousin.com, and have finally gone through that, but >>am wondering whether any other years are completely online. Or do I have to >>go to the History Center and settle in for a few hours? >> >>Vicky >>www.bernalhistoryproject.org >> >> >> > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Vicky, We list all the online directories that we know about. If you or anyone else sees one that we don't have listed, let us know! :) The library did mention that the Internet Archives was suppose to scan all the city directories and put them online, but I have no idea what the status of that project is and whether it is still happening. So, to answer your question, yes, the SF Main Library beckons you. Though, I would go to the Newspaper center on the 5th floor. The directories are available on the shelves. If you don't see what you want, they also have them on microfilm and microfiche (for the really early ones). Ron Filion sfgenealogy > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:57:03 -0700 > From: "Vicky Walker" <vicky.walker@gmail.com> > Subject: [CASANFRA] SF City Directories online? > To: "casanfra@rootsweb.com" <casanfra@rootsweb.com> > > I'm working on a giant and somewhat foolhardy project that will involve > going through all the city directories. I found the 1922 directory online > via your site at distantcousin.com, and have finally gone through that, but > am wondering whether any other years are completely online. Or do I have to > go to the History Center and settle in for a few hours? > > Vicky > www.bernalhistoryproject.org >

I'm working on a giant and somewhat foolhardy project that will involve going through all the city directories. I found the 1922 directory online via your site at distantcousin.com, and have finally gone through that, but am wondering whether any other years are completely online. Or do I have to go to the History Center and settle in for a few hours? Vicky www.bernalhistoryproject.org

Hi everyone, As you may have noticed, sfgenealogy.com was down Sunday and Monday. Our web host had a computer crash earlier this week and moved our stuff over to a new computer. They were suppose to have it done on Sunday, but I think they underestimated the time it takes to restore from a tape these days. The good news is that the San Francisco Mortuary Indexing Project was on a different server (computer), so that wasn't affected. We are currently at the 12% finished mark. Woo-hoo! We could still use more volunteers if you feel so inclined: http://www.sfgenealogy.net/mip/ Ron Filion & Pamela Storm SFgenealogy

When? Jim Maureen Mroczek Morris wrote: >Is anyone familiar with a cafe/restaurant that used to be on 609 >Pacific Ave. in SF (FH Gantner or Dalmatian Cafe)? > >Thanks, >Maureen > > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Is anyone familiar with a cafe/restaurant that used to be on 609 Pacific Ave. in SF (FH Gantner or Dalmatian Cafe)? Thanks, Maureen

Thank you for letting me know. I am glad it is still available. It is a "must have" tool IMO (very critical) for anyone researching this particular time frame as many of us on this list are. I found my great grand uncle and great grand aunt's obits. on this site. I never knew when they died; only a guess for the past 10 years. I strongly recommend this vital collection of newspaper records to everyone on this list. Thanks again. Sue > Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:07:35 -0700 > From: jim@historysmith.com > To: dumtacet@hotmail.com; casanfra-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] San Francisco Call - Library of Congress website > > OK - I shoulda looked more closely. If you scroll down the available > newspapers on the LOC site to SF Call, it's all still there. Go to > advanced search, select the SF Call and then some common word like > passengers. > Jim > > James R. Smith wrote: > > >I would suggest that we each send a comment to the contact on that site > >(the Library of Congress) asking when it will be back. If they get > >enough f a response, we might get this valuable tool returned to us. > > > >Meanwhile, access can be had via http://cbsr.tabbec.com/ (UC Cal @ > >Riverside). Use the SF Call only, not the Call-Chronicle-Examiner. > >Jim > > > >Sue wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hello all, > >> > >>I've noted that the below link no longer works to extract records from the Call-Chronicle-Examiner from San Francisco 1897-1910. Does anyone know what happened? I'm quite distressed by this finding as I had found many pertinent family records. > >> > >>http://www.loc.gov/chroniclingamerica/search_fulltext_advanced.html > >> > >>About the only thing I've been able to bring up is a newspaper article from April 19, 1906. > >> > >>Please advise if you know of an alternative site that may have taken over this priceless archive of old San Francisco records. > >> > >>Thank you! > >> > >>Sue > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Change the world with e-mail. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. > >>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld > >>************************** > >>Visit SFGenealogy.com! > >>http://www.sfgenealogy.com > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > James R. Smith > > Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks > > ISBN: 1884995446 > > www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood