I just checked to see who could use the Newspaper Archives at USC... the following comment was returned. > Dear Ken, > Access to electronic resources is restricted to members of the USC > community (currently enrolled students, faculty and staff). > > Thanks, > Lana.

You're right Mike. These newspapers are scanned, digitized and run through an OCR (optical character recognition) program. If the scan is not sharp, the OCR program will miss it completely even if it's there. If I really need something, I'll read the newspapers cover to cover for a specified period just as you would do on microfilm. Jim mike@notrca.com wrote: > Keep in mind, it may or may not be that accurate. > Just for kicks I did a search for my great grandfather in San > Francisco between 1864 and 1865 with '0' results. > I have his obituary from 19 December 1864 from the San Francisco papers. > It's a lot of money to join if it is not accurate. > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R. Smith" > <jim@historysmith.com> > To: "The Schafers" <mankzcat@gmail.com> > Cc: <casanfra@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Marriage Newspaper Lookup Help > > >> Hi Cathie, >> >> Newspaperarchive.com has the Oakland Tribune from 1874 - 1977. >> >> Jim >> >> The Schafers wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I found some interesting info from a newspaper article that says my >>> gggf was married for a third time. >>> I'm now trying to find a database or need lookup help to find a >>> marriage announcement in a Oakland Newspaper. >>> >>> There marriage took place on : >>> >>> Nov. 13, 1899 in Oakland >>> John McLaughlin b. Ireland >>> to Helen ? >>> >>> I do know John had lived most of his life in SF but must of for a >>> time moved to Oakland around the turn of the century. >>> >>> I looked through the SF Chronicle and only found an article about >>> ending this marriage. >>> I was thinking there may have been more info in Oakland about the >>> start of the marriage. >>> >>> If anyone either can lookup this up or send me where I can lookup >>> online I would so appreciate it. >>> I'm looking for her maiden name so I can get a marriage record. >>> >>> Thanks so much for the help! >>> >>> Cathie >>> ************************** >>> Visit SFGenealogy.com! >>> http://www.sfgenealogy.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> James R. Smith >> >> Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks >> >> ISBN: 1884995446 >> >> www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> >> >> >> >> ************************** >> Visit SFGenealogy.com! >> http://www.sfgenealogy.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Keep in mind, it may or may not be that accurate. Just for kicks I did a search for my great grandfather in San Francisco between 1864 and 1865 with '0' results. I have his obituary from 19 December 1864 from the San Francisco papers. It's a lot of money to join if it is not accurate. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R. Smith" <jim@historysmith.com> To: "The Schafers" <mankzcat@gmail.com> Cc: <casanfra@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Marriage Newspaper Lookup Help > Hi Cathie, > > Newspaperarchive.com has the Oakland Tribune from 1874 - 1977. > > Jim > > The Schafers wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I found some interesting info from a newspaper article that says my >>gggf was married for a third time. >>I'm now trying to find a database or need lookup help to find a >>marriage announcement in a Oakland Newspaper. >> >>There marriage took place on : >> >>Nov. 13, 1899 in Oakland >>John McLaughlin b. Ireland >>to Helen ? >> >>I do know John had lived most of his life in SF but must of for a >>time moved to Oakland around the turn of the century. >> >>I looked through the SF Chronicle and only found an article about >>ending this marriage. >>I was thinking there may have been more info in Oakland about the >>start of the marriage. >> >>If anyone either can lookup this up or send me where I can lookup >>online I would so appreciate it. >>I'm looking for her maiden name so I can get a marriage record. >> >>Thanks so much for the help! >> >>Cathie >>************************** >>Visit SFGenealogy.com! >>http://www.sfgenealogy.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > -- > > James R. Smith > > Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks > > ISBN: 1884995446 > > www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/> > > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cathie... Here's some information on where the marriage could be found in the Alameda County marriage records, which date back to 1854. I live several miles away from Oakland, but maybe some kind person might take a look for you at the Alameda Recorder's Office: http://www.acgov.org/auditor/clerk/vitalresearch.htm Barb > To: casanfra@rootsweb.com> From: mankzcat@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:05:16 -0700> Subject: [CASANFRA] Marriage Newspaper Lookup Help> > Hello,> > I found some interesting info from a newspaper article that says my > gggf was married for a third time.> I'm now trying to find a database or need lookup help to find a > marriage announcement in a Oakland Newspaper.> > There marriage took place on :> > Nov. 13, 1899 in Oakland> John McLaughlin b. Ireland> to Helen ?> > I do know John had lived most of his life in SF but must of for a > time moved to Oakland around the turn of the century.> > I looked through the SF Chronicle and only found an article about > ending this marriage.> I was thinking there may have been more info in Oakland about the > start of the marriage.> > If anyone either can lookup this up or send me where I can lookup > online I would so appreciate it.> I'm looking for her maiden name so I can get a marriage record.> > Thanks so much for the help!> > Cathie> **************************> Visit SFGenealogy.com!> http://www.sfgenealogy.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/

Hi Cathie, Newspaperarchive.com has the Oakland Tribune from 1874 - 1977. Jim The Schafers wrote: >Hello, > >I found some interesting info from a newspaper article that says my >gggf was married for a third time. >I'm now trying to find a database or need lookup help to find a >marriage announcement in a Oakland Newspaper. > >There marriage took place on : > >Nov. 13, 1899 in Oakland >John McLaughlin b. Ireland >to Helen ? > >I do know John had lived most of his life in SF but must of for a >time moved to Oakland around the turn of the century. > >I looked through the SF Chronicle and only found an article about >ending this marriage. >I was thinking there may have been more info in Oakland about the >start of the marriage. > >If anyone either can lookup this up or send me where I can lookup >online I would so appreciate it. >I'm looking for her maiden name so I can get a marriage record. > >Thanks so much for the help! > >Cathie >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Hello, I found some interesting info from a newspaper article that says my gggf was married for a third time. I'm now trying to find a database or need lookup help to find a marriage announcement in a Oakland Newspaper. There marriage took place on : Nov. 13, 1899 in Oakland John McLaughlin b. Ireland to Helen ? I do know John had lived most of his life in SF but must of for a time moved to Oakland around the turn of the century. I looked through the SF Chronicle and only found an article about ending this marriage. I was thinking there may have been more info in Oakland about the start of the marriage. If anyone either can lookup this up or send me where I can lookup online I would so appreciate it. I'm looking for her maiden name so I can get a marriage record. Thanks so much for the help! Cathie

Yes it is amazing - and it was suggested yesterday & I poo-pooed it. :o/ Talk about way ahead of our times. Jim - with egg on face rwalker wrote: >Isn't this amazing? And we think we are so smart with our internet and >e-mail and all. The telegraph was every bit as exciting at its time as >what we are doing online today. Imagine what people thought when the >first words and first pictures were sent via telegraph/telephone line. >Every bit as awed as when we got our first email or family photo. >"rwalker" > > > >>Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:57:51 -0700 >>From: "A. Mason Design" <amason@redshift.com> >>Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Newspaper Technology - 1900 >> >>Hi Jim, >> >>Your question intrigued me and this is what I've found. >> >>In 1881 Selford Bidwell sent an electronic image by telegraph using a >>photoelectric cell. The following year, 1882, in England, first >>wirephotos (a photograph transmitted by electrical signals over >>telephone wires. >> >>I looked at the page you referenced and they were rotogravure images, >>not photographs, so they would have been easier to send over wires. >> >>Google Book Search turned up "The American Wire Service" by Richard >>Allen Schwarzlose. URL below. >> >><http://books.google.com/books?id=iRb2atvpVxkC&pg=PA62&lpg=PA62&dq=%22history+of+wire+services%22&source=web&ots=DB7RqF_Hzq&sig=igcJ0IdEm1LnTkIZzxHDmK7j11Y&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result> >> >>The URL below does not specifically state anything about the >>transmission of images but is an interesting timeline regarding national >>and international news coverage in the 1800s: >> >><http://www.ap.org/pages/about/history/history_first.html> >> >>Another interesting book from Google Book Search is"A History of the >>Book in America" by Scott E. Casper, Jeffery D. Groves. Ther is a >>section in there on the development of the "illustrated press." >> >><http://books.google.com/books?id=j33i-WMOp1YC&pg=PA241&lpg=PA241&dq=%22Associated+Press%22+history+illustrations&source=web&ots=nBCx4O-pDI&sig=5zloEZrjlxp3f9zhamoaXXnNDGU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#PPA248,M1> >> >>It's an interesting subject. >> >>How this helps, >>Anita C. >>Monterey County >> >>James R. Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>>I was looking at a series of graphic images from the SF Call printed on >>>>the morning of Jan 31, 1900. They depicted a shooting scene in >>>>Frankfort, KY plus images of the victim, the newly elected governor of >>>>Kentucky and two other men associated with the campaign. The shooting, >>>>serious but not at that time fatal occurred at 11:00 a.m. on the 30th. >>>> >>>>How did the Call get images of the scene and individuals in less than 24 >>>>hours? >>>> >>>> > > > > > >----------------------------------------- >Visit: >NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html >NORCAL Genealogy Resource Center http://www.sfgenealogy.com/norcal/resourcecenter/toc.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Proquest has a number of online historical newspaper databases -- L.A. Times, Boston Globe, Atlanta Constitution, San Francisco Chronicle, Wall Street Journal. Not every library subscribes to all of them. LAPL subscribes only to the L.A. Times. USC subscribes to the entire collection. It has the San Francisco Chronicle, 1865-1922. Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:36 AM, The Schafers <mankzcat@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know if the Pro Quest newspaper collections from 1865 > -1899 are online yet? > > I know it says on SFGENEALOGY.COM <http://sfgenealogy.com/> : > That SF Chronicle from 1900-1922 is online from SF Public Library and > that they will be adding the 1865 -1899 in Aug. 2008. > > I've tried through my libraries and even LA Library and can't > accesses it (they don't have it for some reason). > > I was wondering if anyone who does have access could look two things > or even one item up. > > I REALLY have been trying to search for a marriage license or > marriage announcement for two sisters. > They both were married just turn of the century so it's hard to look > through the online newspapers online because nothing goes just before > 1900. > > I would be SO grateful to have this info as they are the last two > siblings that might hold more clues to there parents!!! > > > Annie McLaughlin to William E. Dean married approx. 1898 (SF or > Berkley) (Her first child was born March 1899) > So maybe they were married around May or June??? > > > Olive McLaughlin to John Kraft approx 1899/1900 (I know she is > listed in the 1900 Census as single but I have searched the Library > of Congress online that goes from 1900-1910 and never found anything. > I was hoping maybe another database may have them listed at least > getting a marriage license in SF. > > (Keep in mind there is another Olive McLaughlin who tried to murder > her husband John McLaughlin - strange because that was our Olive's > fathers name) Yikes! > > I would REALLY appreciate ANY help on these two sisters ( I have > written to many Catholic Churches in SF with no results on these two). > > Thanks, > Cathie > > > > > > > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

OK - not all the way up to speed yet today. Pre1850.... Duh!!!! I looked up Marriage from 1/1/1898 to 12/31/1898 and got 1077 hits. Jim James R. Smith wrote: >I'm looking at the image of page 3 of the 1/31/1900 SF Cron from the >SFPL site on Proquest. When you click on databases, don't use the first >SF Chron line, scroll down to the one that reads: ProQuest Historical >Newspapers The San Francisco Chronicle (1865-1922) > >FYI - the Chron has two drawings of the principles in the Kentucky >governor's race & discusses the assassination attempt. One is the same >as that in the Call, the other is different. > >It works fine. >Jim > >The Schafers wrote: > > > >>Hello, >> >>Does anyone know if the Pro Quest newspaper collections from 1865 >>-1899 are online yet? >> >>I know it says on SFGENEALOGY.COM : >>That SF Chronicle from 1900-1922 is online from SF Public Library and >>that they will be adding the 1865 -1899 in Aug. 2008. >> >>I've tried through my libraries and even LA Library and can't >>accesses it (they don't have it for some reason). >> >>I was wondering if anyone who does have access could look two things >>or even one item up. >> >>I REALLY have been trying to search for a marriage license or >>marriage announcement for two sisters. >>They both were married just turn of the century so it's hard to look >>through the online newspapers online because nothing goes just before >>1900. >> >>I would be SO grateful to have this info as they are the last two >>siblings that might hold more clues to there parents!!! >> >> >>Annie McLaughlin to William E. Dean married approx. 1898 (SF or >>Berkley) (Her first child was born March 1899) >>So maybe they were married around May or June??? >> >> >>Olive McLaughlin to John Kraft approx 1899/1900 (I know she is >>listed in the 1900 Census as single but I have searched the Library >>of Congress online that goes from 1900-1910 and never found anything. >>I was hoping maybe another database may have them listed at least >>getting a marriage license in SF. >> >>(Keep in mind there is another Olive McLaughlin who tried to murder >>her husband John McLaughlin - strange because that was our Olive's >>fathers name) Yikes! >> >>I would REALLY appreciate ANY help on these two sisters ( I have >>written to many Catholic Churches in SF with no results on these two). >> >>Thanks, >>Cathie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>************************** >>Visit SFGenealogy.com! >>http://www.sfgenealogy.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

I'm looking at the image of page 3 of the 1/31/1900 SF Cron from the SFPL site on Proquest. When you click on databases, don't use the first SF Chron line, scroll down to the one that reads: ProQuest Historical Newspapers The San Francisco Chronicle (1865-1922) FYI - the Chron has two drawings of the principles in the Kentucky governor's race & discusses the assassination attempt. One is the same as that in the Call, the other is different. It works fine. Jim The Schafers wrote: >Hello, > >Does anyone know if the Pro Quest newspaper collections from 1865 >-1899 are online yet? > >I know it says on SFGENEALOGY.COM : >That SF Chronicle from 1900-1922 is online from SF Public Library and >that they will be adding the 1865 -1899 in Aug. 2008. > >I've tried through my libraries and even LA Library and can't >accesses it (they don't have it for some reason). > >I was wondering if anyone who does have access could look two things >or even one item up. > >I REALLY have been trying to search for a marriage license or >marriage announcement for two sisters. >They both were married just turn of the century so it's hard to look >through the online newspapers online because nothing goes just before >1900. > >I would be SO grateful to have this info as they are the last two >siblings that might hold more clues to there parents!!! > > >Annie McLaughlin to William E. Dean married approx. 1898 (SF or >Berkley) (Her first child was born March 1899) >So maybe they were married around May or June??? > > >Olive McLaughlin to John Kraft approx 1899/1900 (I know she is >listed in the 1900 Census as single but I have searched the Library >of Congress online that goes from 1900-1910 and never found anything. >I was hoping maybe another database may have them listed at least >getting a marriage license in SF. > >(Keep in mind there is another Olive McLaughlin who tried to murder >her husband John McLaughlin - strange because that was our Olive's >fathers name) Yikes! > >I would REALLY appreciate ANY help on these two sisters ( I have >written to many Catholic Churches in SF with no results on these two). > >Thanks, >Cathie > > > > > > > > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

I was looking at a series of graphic images from the SF Call printed on the morning of Jan 31, 1900. They depicted a shooting scene in Frankfort, KY plus images of the victim, the newly elected governor of Kentucky and two other men associated with the campaign. The shooting, serious but not at that time fatal occurred at 11:00 a.m. on the 30th. How did the Call get images of the scene and individuals in less than 24 hours? http://www.loc.gov/chroniclingamerica/ndnp:751479/display.html?image=1 Jim -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Hello, Does anyone know if the Pro Quest newspaper collections from 1865 -1899 are online yet? I know it says on SFGENEALOGY.COM : That SF Chronicle from 1900-1922 is online from SF Public Library and that they will be adding the 1865 -1899 in Aug. 2008. I've tried through my libraries and even LA Library and can't accesses it (they don't have it for some reason). I was wondering if anyone who does have access could look two things or even one item up. I REALLY have been trying to search for a marriage license or marriage announcement for two sisters. They both were married just turn of the century so it's hard to look through the online newspapers online because nothing goes just before 1900. I would be SO grateful to have this info as they are the last two siblings that might hold more clues to there parents!!! Annie McLaughlin to William E. Dean married approx. 1898 (SF or Berkley) (Her first child was born March 1899) So maybe they were married around May or June??? Olive McLaughlin to John Kraft approx 1899/1900 (I know she is listed in the 1900 Census as single but I have searched the Library of Congress online that goes from 1900-1910 and never found anything. I was hoping maybe another database may have them listed at least getting a marriage license in SF. (Keep in mind there is another Olive McLaughlin who tried to murder her husband John McLaughlin - strange because that was our Olive's fathers name) Yikes! I would REALLY appreciate ANY help on these two sisters ( I have written to many Catholic Churches in SF with no results on these two). Thanks, Cathie

Actually, since I worked for Social Security, the death records reflect what the person indicated when they applied for their social security number.  In my experience the accuracy matched their allegation when they applied for benefits better than 95%.  Occasionally someone made themselves older but rarely younger. --- On Sat, 10/4/08, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Accuracy of 1900 census on age To: CASANFRA-L@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:38 PM I concur with Leila about the accuracy of month and year being separate issues and WW1 draft cards being more reliable. But none of these is foolproof. I tend to go with the Soc Sec Death Index for accurate birthdates if people have entries on it, as some kind of paper proof is required for the birth dates that Soc. Sec has on file. That doesn't mean that is accurate, either, though, as if no other proof existed, I've heard that copies of the 1900 census pages were used! And if the informant didn't know English well, or was a child, or there were a lot of children, it was just as easy to get Month of birth wrong as it was to mis-report place of birth. Seems to me they ought to know more surely where kids were born, and since my family often reported a different State or country for some children, different in every census, I take the Month as likely but not necessarily accurate. I have instances where it was wrong as well, disagreeing with WW1 and other records. On 10/4/08, leilamenzies@aol.com <leilamenzies@aol.com> wrote: > > I have no proof of this-- but I have found on family memebers I have > researched that the MONTH is usually correct, but not always the year for > 1900 (this is about equally true for men and women).? If you have a male of > draft age for 1917-1918 WWI registrations I have found those birthdates to > be the most accurate (doesn't help with a female, though!) > Leila Menzies ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Why are old Water Records helpful in doing family research? Kathy **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)

Hi Kathy, The water Tap Records show who lived there & paid the bill rather than who owned it. See: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#WaterTap Jim Wjkdonovan@aol.com wrote: >Why are old Water Records helpful in doing family research? Kathy > > > >**************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. >Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! >(http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

Contained in an article on the possibility of Google bringing public records on line, I found the snippet below. complete article: http://tinyurl.com/3edr7p So how did The Generations Network import the data from millions of old census forms into its online database? Sullivan (CEO of GN) says the company spent about $75 million over 10 years to build its "content assets" including the census data, and much of that cost went into partnering with Chinese firms whose employees read the data and entered it into Ancestry.com's database. The Chinese staff are specially trained to read the cursive and other handwriting styles from digitized paper records and microfilm. The task is ongoing with other handwritten records, at a cost of approximately $10 million per year, he adds. ======================================================= Carolyn Feroben California Gen/Historical Societies(county by county) http://mariposaresearch.net/CALIFORNIA_GENEALOGY_SOCIETIES.html

I agree that year of birth and age were two different questions. I suspect though that sometimes one was based on math done by the census taker after the fact. I also suspect that sometimes the month of birth was really the month of baptism. It was the more important event for some families. Rebekah

I have no proof of this-- but I have found on family memebers I have researched that the MONTH is usually correct, but not always the year for 1900 (this is about equally true for men and women).? If you have a male of draft age for 1917-1918 WWI registrations I have found those birthdates to be the most accurate (doesn't help with a female, though!) Leila Menzies -----Original Message----- From: Doug Urbanus <firstboy@pacbell.net> To: CASANFRA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 5:25 pm Subject: [CASANFRA] Accuracy of 1900 census on age Since the 1900 census asked both age and month/year of birth it would seem reasonable to guess that it was more accurate than other censuses.? Does anyone know (1) why month and year were included for this single time and (2) was the result more accurate,? particularly on month?? Specifically did he Census Bureau ever commission a study on the accuracy of the birth data or provide a rationale for the inclusion and then abandonment of the month and year question? ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I concur with Leila about the accuracy of month and year being separate issues and WW1 draft cards being more reliable. But none of these is foolproof. I tend to go with the Soc Sec Death Index for accurate birthdates if people have entries on it, as some kind of paper proof is required for the birth dates that Soc. Sec has on file. That doesn't mean that is accurate, either, though, as if no other proof existed, I've heard that copies of the 1900 census pages were used! And if the informant didn't know English well, or was a child, or there were a lot of children, it was just as easy to get Month of birth wrong as it was to mis-report place of birth. Seems to me they ought to know more surely where kids were born, and since my family often reported a different State or country for some children, different in every census, I take the Month as likely but not necessarily accurate. I have instances where it was wrong as well, disagreeing with WW1 and other records. On 10/4/08, leilamenzies@aol.com <leilamenzies@aol.com> wrote: > > I have no proof of this-- but I have found on family memebers I have > researched that the MONTH is usually correct, but not always the year for > 1900 (this is about equally true for men and women).? If you have a male of > draft age for 1917-1918 WWI registrations I have found those birthdates to > be the most accurate (doesn't help with a female, though!) > Leila Menzies

That red brick building is the old Lowell High School campus, later John Adams Adult High School. Jim rwalker wrote: >Hi Listers, >I took a photo of the San Francisco skyline from the Nurses Dorm across >from St. Mary's Hospital in 1956. The skyline has changed since then. >Can anyone identify the tall buildings on the skyline? The large red >brick building is still there. I seem to remember it was a school, but >not which one. >What is it now? >My brother posted it on Shorpy, and you can see it here: >http://www.shorpy.com/node/4586 > >Thanks, "rwalker" > > > > >----------------------------------------- >Visit: >NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html >NORCAL Genealogy Resource Center http://www.sfgenealogy.com/norcal/resourcecenter/toc.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORCAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco’s Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>