Hello,again. Earlier, my message was not clear enough and misunderstood my message. I need someone help to go to Vital Office of San Francisco and search death records because of my ancestor's name is common name. I do not want to order it because staff might be pick wrong one. I have been collecting several common names of different county. It grew very well. He is not the right father yet of my great grandmother. I believe that he died in SF. I said earlier that death index(1905 to 1939) does not help because it has mistake printed or missing. I am appreciate if anyone to help me to go there and search death records for my great great grandfather. There might be five or ten same common names of my ancestors in SF between from 1906 to 1939. I have to take look at names with dates, background, etc. I will explain more details next e mail if anyone is willing help me as volunteer. I need help. I cannot find any volunteer on website in SF so far. I cannot go up there because I live far away from my home in Long Beach area. With your help is much appreciation. Adrienne Stefanik Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Mollie Best overall source of info, if you haven't found it, is the SF genealogy site: http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrancty.htm next best -- and best for California as a whole -- is the NORCAL index: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/toc.shtml First step is to deal with the very annoying pop-up adds at the otherwise free vital search site. You'll have to give your name and e-mail address to get on, but you'll get access to all the Williams dying in California in the 1929 to 39 time period (scanned sheets). I couldn't spot our Katherine offhand, but if she died in SF she should be listed there (but it might be recorded as Kate, Katie, etc or with a C.) http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/ca/_vitals/cadeathm.htm Once you've got the death date, send an e-mail to the SFPL (see the SF genealogy site for details) and they'll check for an obit which, if you're really lucky, will have surviving relatives -- sometimes a brother or sister. If not, try getting a copy of the death cert (see if someone on the site will transcribe it for you, otherwise it's a matter of ordering it and a long wait), which may have parents or siblings' names. It may (or may not) also have where she was born. If not, hopefully you know her maiden name (Higgins?) and about when she came to California. There were a number of California births with mother maiden name Higgins and child Williams. See http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/birth/search.cgi A copy of the birth certificate (or transcription) once you've identified it would give you the address, which might translate to a church, which might give you a marriage (in California). SF genealogy site tells you how to contact the Catholic archives. I'd call to see if they know which parish that address is in, and if they have the records. If she was married there, they'd also have the marriage record, which might or might not have her father's name (and his). The National Archives branches all have the census tapes for 1900, 1910, 1920, with an index, also on microfilm, by State. Also, 1880 for folks with kids under 20 (were there older siblings?). If she was married by 1900, look for her on it under her married name. If not, under her maiden name (or both if you don't know). Marriage records for New York should be indexed by then. If she was married in SF, however, any civil marriage records would have been lost in the earthquake. That makes it hit or miss on the church, unless where her children were baptised. If all else fails, the obit should have the funeral home and the death cert both the funeral home and cemetary. You can call the funeral home for what they have (clippings, pallbearers ?). I've found birthdates and places on headstones when nothing else works. If she left a will or died with property (surviving her husband) there may be a probate file in SF. Gets to be a puzzle. Good luck. Carol Nash Message text written by INTERNET:CASANFRA-L@rootsweb.com >From: EmLGee@aol.com To: CASANFRA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <113.831045d.2932a48f@aol.com> Subject: [CASANFRA] HIGGINS/WILLIAMS death info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a bit stuck & not sure how to begin. My maternal grandmother died in 1934 in San Francisco. How do I go about obtaining additional information? I have only death year & no family members to help me out. She was Catholic. She was Katherine Lucille Higgins Williams, b. 1876 in New York & died 1934 in San Francisco. What's my first step? Thanks - Mollie <

HELLO. I am appreciate if anyone can help me to check on death records at vital office of San Francisco. Death Index 1905 to 1939 does not help because it has too many mistakes. Thank you, Adrienne StefanikGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Mission Primary School- Historical Sketch- 1879-80, From the SF Muni Report Up to July 1876, the Mission Grammar School occupied the two buildings in the school lot on Mission street, between Fifteenth and Sixteenth streets. The school grew too large to be properly managed by one principal, and in the month named the Board of Education passed a resolution declaring the rear building with the classes therein a primary school, to be known as the "Mission Primary School." It is a mixed school for boys and girls, and numbers seven hundred and sixty-six pupils. Mrs. M. H. WALKER, the present Principal, was placed in charge of the school at its organization. ------------------------- Carolyn

Grant Primary School -Historical Sketch, 1879-80, SF Muni Report This school occupies a three-story frame building, containing twelve class-rooms, on Tyler street, between Leavenworth and Hyde streets. The school was opened February 7, 1876, in a rented building on the corner of Market and Seventh streets, where it remained until May 3, 1880, when it was transferred in to the present building. It was named the "Grant Primary School' by the Board of Education, October 7, 1879. It is a mixed school for boys and girls, and has seven hundred and thirty one pupils enrolled. The Tyler and Jones Street Primary school, with the pupils and teachers were transferred to this school July 2, 1878. Miss A. M. STINSEN, the present Principal, was placed in charge of the school at its organization. ------------------ Carolyn

Market Street Primary School- Historical Sketch- 1879-80, from the SF Muni Report This school now occupies two eight-class wooden buildings in the rear of the Lincoln Grammar School building on Fifth street, near Market street. At present there are nine hundred and twenty-one boys and girls in attendance. The school was instituted March 4, 1860, in one ot he present buildings on Fifth street. It has since been removed to the rear portion of the lot to make room for the Grammar building. In 1865 it was organized as a "training School for the instruction of the pupils of the State Normal School in the art of teaching. The upper portion of this building ws occupied by the State Normal School from 1865 until it was removed to San Jose in June 1872. After the removal of the Normal School the Primary School in the Presbyterian Church on Mission street, near Sixth street, under the charge of Miss Agnes MANNING, was transferred to this school. The school ws originally called the Fifth Street Primary, then the Market Street Primary, then, on September 24, 1875, it was changed to Lincoln Primary, and shortly afterwards it ws again changed to the Market Street Primary. The following teachers have been Principals of this school; Miss M. D. LYNDE, elected March 4, 1860 Fred ELLIOT, elected January 1862 Bernahrd MARKS, elected September, 1862 Mrs. C. H. STOUT, elected January, 1864 Miss Agnes M. MANNING, elected July, 1872 ----------------- Carolyn

Lincoln Primary School-Historical Sketch- 1879-80, from the SF Muni Report This school is located on Bryant street, between Sixth and Seventh streets in a three-story wooden building, containing twelve large and pleasant class-rooms. The present attendance is six hundred and ninety-five pupils. The school ws instituted in July, 1856, in the one story building, corner of Market and Fifth streets. When the lot on which the building was located was leased, the school, in April , 1875, ws moved to the Mechanics' Pavilion, and in July it was again moved, for temporary accommodation, into the old school building on the corner of Seventh and Market streets, where it remained until it was transferred to its present location in October, 1876. Miss Kate SULLIVAN was placed in charge of the school at the first organization, and remained in charge for thirteen years. She died July 17, 1879, Miss Margaret McKENZIE, the present Principal, was elected September 16, 1879. --------------- Carolyn

I'm a bit stuck & not sure how to begin. My maternal grandmother died in 1934 in San Francisco. How do I go about obtaining additional information? I have only death year & no family members to help me out. She was Catholic. She was Katherine Lucille Higgins Williams, b. 1876 in New York & died 1934 in San Francisco. What's my first step? Thanks - Mollie

The Oldest Public High School in west of the Mississippi..located in San Francisco, Ca. For those who want to see if their family went to this school in this year you can view the full name index on this site, it is for sale on ebay.com: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1489389109&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1016984006&indexURL=0&rd=1 Please be sure and check the history of this school as it has changed names a couple of times, also locations.: http://www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch697/about/history/ Jas. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

Hello everyone, I hadn't been there in awhile, so I didn't know, but I just noticed that Jim Faulkinbury's "San Francisco Call Database Index" was updated November 1st to include 1894: http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfnews.htm Pam psw@sfo.com -- Pamela Storm Wolfskill The USGenWeb Project, San Francisco http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrancty.htm CASANFRA "ListMom" http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfmail.htm

Liane It was started by Union Veterans of the Civil War, for more information, you might want to check this site <http://pages.prodigy.com/CGBD86A/garhp.htm> George --- Liane Lyle <liane.lyle@home.com> wrote: > > Dear list, > > Okay all you US history buffs, what army was the > GAR? > I can see that GAR stands for Grand Army of the > Republic, but what was > that? Which war, what states were a part of it, etc? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

1875-6 P.B. Berges & Co was assessed for the following: Restaurant Stock $1,400, Fixtures $100, Furniture $500 1878-9 No Listing 1882-3 No Listing 1889-90 Berges & Doniconi: Fixtures $40, Solvent Credits $1,450, Money $200, Horse $80, Harness $10, Vehicles $100, Merchandise $5,560

It looks like your Berges people were here early, working at something other than the restaurant business: 1862 Berges, Pierre, (Bourdin & Berges), dw Lobos Creek. They were proprietors of the French Garden 1863 Berges, Peter, gardener, Lobos Creek 5m W Plaza Berges, Peter Jr., dw. Lobos Creek 5m W Plaza 1865 Berges, Pierre, gardener, Lobos Creek 5m W Plaza

I thought it would be nice to hear from Bob again on this holiday - enjoy! RUTH _________________________________ Ruth(Grady)Skewis-Sacramento, CA ruth4527@mindspring.com ============================================================================ ==== Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:39:37 EST From: <BNorris166@aol.com> To: NORCAL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Thanksgiving:- 1621, Plymouth, MA Seasonal, but OFF TOPIC:-))) HAPPY THANKSGIVING Howdy Folks, A little Turkey Day stuff...:-) Hope my seasonal, off-topic post doesn't ruffle any feathers - just fun-learning:-)) As with most truly historic/historical events, this Thanksgiving rendition, taken from "Extraordinary Origins of Everyday Things" by Charles PANATI(NY: Harper & Row 1987) may evoke either a passing comment or violent disagreement. If the latter, please forgive - just thought it interesting & wanted to share.:-)) According to author Panati, our present Thanksgiving day celebration is probably due in most part to the tireless editorial efforts, which began in 1827, of Sarah Josepha HALE, when she was editor of Boston's LADIES magazine(later "Godey's Lady's Book'). But I am getting ahead of myself:-) Let's first return to 1620: Evidently, the 102 Pilgrims aboard the MAYFLOWER were well acquainted with annual thanksgiving day celebrations - an ancient and universal custom: Greeks, Romans, and Hebrews. After the long four month journey ended with their landing at Plymouth on December 11,1620, the Pilgrims, as every schoolperson may remember, suffered from severe weather and a plague that by 1621 had killed hundreds of local Indians and 46 of their own members - mainly to scurvy and pneumonia. But the survivors had plenty for which to be thankful: a bountiful harvest, abundant food, and they were ALIVE. Their existence was in no small part due to the efforts of English-speaking Pawtuxet Indian named SQUANTO who continued to help them in so many ways until his death two years later. According to Governor BRADFORD's own history "Of Plimoth Plantation," the 1621 celebration lasted three days. Let me quote a little from author PANATI's book: "He[Bradford] sent 'four men fowling' and the ducks and geese they brought back were added to lobsters, clams, bass, corn, green vegetables, and dried fruit. "The Pilgrims invited the chief of the Wampanoag tribe, MASSASOIT, and 90 of his braves, and the work of preparing the feast - for 91 Indians and 56 settlers - fell to only four Pilgrim women and two teenage girls[and you Ladees complain:-))] Thirteen women had died the previous winter." As we were school taught, the first Thanksgiving Day had all the elements of a modern celebration: parade of soldiers, blasting muskets and blaring bugles. Even the 90 Indian guest competed against the settlers in foot races and jumping matches. Also, the Indians showed their bow and arrow prowess; the male settlers their accuracy with the gun. THANKSGIVING MENU I suspect maybe a little disagreement here. But according to Panati, the 6 ladees preparing their meal with the resources at hand, produced a varied menu - some of which have since become traditional fare. For the details, let's listen to author Pinati: "Though Governor Bradford sent 'four men fowling,' and they returned with 'a great store of wild turkies,' there is no proof that the catch included the bird we call a turkey. Wild turkeys did roam the woods of the Northeast, but in the language of the 17th-century Pilgrims, 'turkey' simply meant any guinea fowl, that is, any bird with a featherless head, rounded body, and dark feathers speckled white. "It is certain, however, that the menu included venison, since another Pilgrim recorded that Chief Massasoit sent braves into the woods, who 'killed five Deere which they brought to our Governour.' Watercress and leeks were on the table, along with bitter wild plums and dried berries, but there was no apple cider, and no milk, butter, or cheese, since cows had not been aboard the MAYFLOWER. "And there was probably no pumpkin pie[:-(]. Or bread as we'd recognize it. Stores of flour from the ship had long since been exhausted and years would pass before significant quantities of wheat were successfully cultivated in New England. Without flour for a pie crust, there could be no pie. But the Pilgrims did enjoy pumpkin at the meal - BOILED. "The cooks concocted an ersztz bread. Boiling corn, which was plentiful, kneaded it into round cakes and fried it in venison fat. There were 15 young boys in the company, and during the three-day celebration they gathered wild cranberries, which the women boiled and mashed into a sauce for the meal's meats." FOLKS, apparently the next year brought a poor harvest and. with new folks coming in to feed, the Pilgrims never again regularly celebrated a Thanksgiving day. In 1777, the 13 colonies had a common thanksgiving celebration - the victory at the Battle of Saratoga. Also President George WASHINGTON's first National Thanksgiving proclamation in 1789 caused such discord that it was never carried out. It was left to the one woman, Sarah Josepha HALE, who crusaded with magazine editorials for decades, and the Civil War to reinstate Thanksgiving. The bitter Battle of Gettysburg in September, 1863, brought forth an emotional, widely circulated editorial by Mrs. Hale, which supposedly prompted President Abraham LINCOLN to issue a proclamation on October 3, 1863 setting aside the last Thursday in November as national THANKSGIVING DAY." I omit Thanksgiving since.:-)) Refresh your recollection? Now, save me a big ole leg tomorrow:-)), Bob Norris in Dallas

DURIEUX ADELE 09/14/1890 RECKER DURIEUX F CALIFORNIA SOLANO 09/04/1957 66 yrs DURIEUX MARY 05/27/1864 REKER F REST (OTHER) SOLANO 11/10/1943 79 yrs MEIER EMMA MARYJOSEPHIN 04/05/1899 REKER F REST (OTHER) SAN DIEGO(37) 12/02/1994 271-01-6951 95 yrs Do you need a look up for obit on Emma Mary Josephine? I can check for that one. Sandra -----Original Message----- From: Muriel [mailto:murcal@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:17 PM To: CASANFRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CASANFRA] Results: Frank Durieux 1925 DURIEUX, Frank sp. M.R. age 72 died San Francisco COunty, 01/11/1925 state File 4275 Cathy & Ernie wrote: > > Trying to locate death certificate on Frank Durieux. He is my great grandfather. He died in San Francisco I believe in 1924. His real name was Francois Durieux. He is buried at the Holy Cross Cemetary in Colma. > > He was married to Mary Reker Durieux and they had three daughters: Josephine, Adele and Louise. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Allison, Do you know what grade these people may have been in. Meaning for time periods, elementary, jr. high or high school? Diane

I was at U.C., today in the Newspaper library and notice that they have card file index for the Daily Californian from Aug 1929 to June 1991. In doing some more checking I also found that they also have the following on film, also in the newspaper library: Index to The Berkeleyan and its successor "The Daily Californian," Jan. 1874-Aug. 7, 1929. I do not know how go it is but if you have who was a student or worked at Cal. let me know and will see if I can find them. George __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

Hello! I live in Pennsylvania and am wondering how I can find out what public schools someone might have attended for the following addresses. I've included the years applicable to each address: 1630 25th Ave San Francisco from 1926-1934 522 Second Ave San Francisco from 1926-1934 628 Guerrero St San Francisco from 1934-1936 Any help will be GREATLY appreciated! Thank you, Allison Ector

DURIEUX, Frank sp. M.R. age 72 died San Francisco COunty, 01/11/1925 state File 4275 Cathy & Ernie wrote: > > Trying to locate death certificate on Frank Durieux. He is my great grandfather. He died in San Francisco I believe in 1924. His real name was Francois Durieux. He is buried at the Holy Cross Cemetary in Colma. > > He was married to Mary Reker Durieux and they had three daughters: Josephine, Adele and Louise. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Trying to locate death certificate on Frank Durieux. He is my great grandfather. He died in San Francisco I believe in 1924. His real name was Francois Durieux. He is buried at the Holy Cross Cemetary in Colma. He was married to Mary Reker Durieux and they had three daughters: Josephine, Adele and Louise. He was a bartender and also ran a boarding house. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Cathy