Any advice/help please. i e-mailed St Mary's cathedral 26 feb 02 to confirm burial and baptism dates.No response at all.Do they normally not reply or are they very busy? i found a site for St.James' church SFO but cannot now find it anywhere? in 1920/30 my SFO family lived in linden ave,willow ave and ivy avenue.Are these the linden/willow/ivy streets of modern maps. i have followed this very interesting list for about 12 months now so have every confidence that somebody will be able to help. thanks in advance, GEOFF START, DARLINGTON,COUNTY DURHAM,ENGLAND.

Hi. Will you please check on directories for SF? His name is Antonio F. Escobar. Try type out Escobar alone or Antonio F. It will be better results. I am not able to enter registration for some reasons. Sometimes, it shows AF Escobar. Antonio Escobar will be ok. If you see F, it will be better results for me. I have a wonderful news to share with you later regard Maria and Jennie Silva's parents. Be with you all later. Thanks in Advance. Adrienne StefanikGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Based on anyone's experience with Vital Records in California, would you suggest ordering death certificates directly from the Office of V.R.s in Sacramento or through each individual county? Thanks... Linda

Anyone who is interested in following the Westward migration of three families during the era of the American Homestead Act, may be interested in the new PBS series, Frontier House, which will begin broadcasting in April. For more information, visit their website at http://www.pbs.org/wnet/frontierhouse/ I suspect that many of us will gain a deeper appreciation of the voyages of our ancestors who left the eastern region to settle in the west. Linda

I haven't been able to locate the website for Lake County from the Rootsweb county menu and I'm wondering if anyone here knows where to order a death certificate. Thanks... Linda

Hi George Yes we had located Rudolph in the 1886-87-88 San Francisco Directories, actually that is how I learned of him, and some years his address is the same as my GGM so I assume he was some realative. Do you know what was the criterion for being listed in the directories What I would like to find now is where he came from in Germany. I have family in Amsterdam, Holland that wiill take the chase from there, so I am trying most any place I can think of. Bob Specht

Hi Bob, In the late 1800s, many labor unions did not have the same meaning as they do today. They were originally organized within trades to standardize rates for services. I don't have the URLs handy, but there is some interesting historical information about the early unions at the California state website. If you have not done so already, you might try doing a search using a search engine such as "www.google.com" on "Brewery+Drivers+Union," "Brewery+Unions," "San+Francisco+Breweries," "SF+Beer+Truck+Drivers,""SF+Beer+Trucks," etc. to see what the search engine finds. • If you put the words in quotes with a "+" between the words, the search engine will narrow its search to only those websites, and PDFs, that contain the words as a group. • If you put the words in by themselves, you will get back every site that mentions the words in any order. I've done quite a lot of online research and it usually takes a lot of patience, checking an innumerable number of websites, and entering various combinations of words, but I almost always find tidbits. In my experience, many of the best sites for the specific type of information I was looking for was found way down on the listings. I've scanned down through as many as over 300 listings to find the correct one. If the information is out there, diligent searching will find it. Hope this helps, Anita C. Monterey County Bob and Mary Specht wrote: > > A few days ago I posted a request to find the address of the Labor Archive Research Center.I want to thank those that answered but I find that organization does not have information on the Brewery Unions > I understand in 1887 there was a local Brewery Workers Union organised by a Mr. Furhman and he was secretary of it until 1892 this was local 16 > The person I am trying to locate was the financial secretary of the Brewery Drivers Union no.227 until 1904 > Would anyone have any idea where might find such information. > > Thanks > Bob Specht > in Oregon

Bob He might be listed in San Francisco City Directory, if the union was listed with their officers. George --- Bob and Mary Specht <rasmas@spiritone.com> wrote: > A few days ago I posted a request to find the > address of the Labor Archive Research Center.I want > to thank those that answered but I find that > organization does not have information on the > Brewery Unions > I understand in 1887 there was a local Brewery > Workers Union organised by a Mr. Furhman and he was > secretary of it until 1892 this was local 16 > The person I am trying to locate was the financial > secretary of the Brewery Drivers Union no.227 until > 1904 > Would anyone have any idea where might find such > information. > > Thanks > Bob Specht > in Oregon > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

A few days ago I posted a request to find the address of the Labor Archive Research Center.I want to thank those that answered but I find that organization does not have information on the Brewery Unions I understand in 1887 there was a local Brewery Workers Union organised by a Mr. Furhman and he was secretary of it until 1892 this was local 16 The person I am trying to locate was the financial secretary of the Brewery Drivers Union no.227 until 1904 Would anyone have any idea where might find such information. Thanks Bob Specht in Oregon

Wonderful!! and a big THANK YOU! This will be a wonder source of information for many of us. Please let us have the URL where this can be found when you get any of it loaded to a web site. Thanks a great deal for the time you have spent on all of this transcribing - Gold star after you name in the big book! RUTH _________________________________ Ruth(Grady)Skewis-Sacramento, CA ruth4527@mindspring.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Edward A. Black, Sr. [mailto:w6uyf@earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:29 AM > To: CASANFRA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CASANFRA] Transcription of 1870 Federal census for San > Francisco County... > > > I just wanted to mark the start of my most ambitious task--the > Transcription of the 1870 Census for San Francisco to go online. I > believe it will be of much help to researchers since San Francisco was a > major port of entry on the west coast in the 19th century, especially > with the gold fields and with immigration. > > I have currently completed 25 pages out of 271 pages in the 1st Ward. > (out of 12 wards). I will periodically be letting all know as to the > progress I make in this large undertaking. > > Although not native to San Francisco, I was born and raised in Alameda > County across the bay and have been in San Francisco enough to be > familiar with much of it. > > I believe this challanging work will be appreciated by many researchers > as I progress. > > Sincerely, > Edward A. Black, Sr. [native of Oakland, CA] >

I just wanted to mark the start of my most ambitious task--the Transcription of the 1870 Census for San Francisco to go online. I believe it will be of much help to researchers since San Francisco was a major port of entry on the west coast in the 19th century, especially with the gold fields and with immigration. I have currently completed 25 pages out of 271 pages in the 1st Ward. (out of 12 wards). I will periodically be letting all know as to the progress I make in this large undertaking. Although not native to San Francisco, I was born and raised in Alameda County across the bay and have been in San Francisco enough to be familiar with much of it. I believe this challanging work will be appreciated by many researchers as I progress. Sincerely, Edward A. Black, Sr. [native of Oakland, CA]

Hi Janet-------- I have compiled the stated requirements /information fields that were included on the various vital documents recorded in California- from 1851 to 1919----------Birth, Marriage and Death....... http://www.cagenweb.com/mariposa/VITALS.html Here is what was asked for on a Death Certificate: For DEATHS: Entries of the date, and name, sex, age, color, single or married, occupation, nativity, disease, or cause of death, place of interment, and the date when the record was made." Have fun! Carolyn http://cagenweb.com/mariposa/ > > In a message dated 3/21/02 4:42:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, JANR67A writes: > > Thanks for this posting ... I've picked up two interesting names from this > > early index. Does your message mean that the LDS have filmed the actual > > death certificate? and from your experience ... if it were a child (I've > > got a two year old who died in 1868) might it show parents/where buried? > > This is really exciting. > > > > Janet

Thanks Jim- appreciate your response. Knowing where to find these resources gets everyone excited:-)~ Best, Carolyn Xfiremar@aol.com wrote: > Carolyn: > I believe that the pre 1905 San Francisco Death Records being > transcribed are available at the Department of Health in San Francisco. They > have eight Books of records that survived the 1906 earthquake and fire. Six > of those books have been filmed by the LDS and the films can be ordered thru > them. Film numbers are # 0975830 thru #0975835. The two books that are not > on film are, "Book O" - July 1, 1898, to March 16, 1900 and an untitled Book > that covers July 1, 1904 to Jan. 31,1905. > I have search the LDS films and found one death in my family on > them. Im am awaiting the books that have not been filmed to be posted on the > site so I may continue my search. > > Jim Gallagher > in Oregon > > In a message dated 3/20/02 1:03:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, > CASANFRA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > Are these LDS films being used? if so, can you post the film > > > numbers? Are these lists from the Historical Society? > > > > > > The "Mortuary Records"- are these films?, or in hard copy book format ? > > If > > >so , > > > where are they located? > > > > > > The Death Registers- are these currently located at the SF Recorders > > > office......or are these films? > >

Janet: What remains of the early San Francisco Death Records varies. Some of the books are an Index only, while others are the actual Certifi\cates without an index. In some both the Index and Certificates are there. Since there seems to be quite an interest in what remains, I will list what the handout I got from the S. F. Dept. of Health says: DEATHS: Book 1 - Nov 8, 1865 to Sept. 30, 1869 - Index Missing - Records O.K. - LDS# 0975830 Book 2 - Oct 1, 1869 to April 30, 1873 - Index Missing - Records O.K. - LDS# 0975830 Book 3 - April 1, 1882 to June 30, 1889 - Index Missing - Records O.K. - Contains Coroner Cases Only. - LDS# 0975831 Book M - Aug 1, 1894 to June 30, 1896 - Index O.K. - Records O.K. - LDS# 0975832 Book O - July 1, 1898 to March 16, 1900 - Index O.K. -Records Missing - Not Filmed Book P - March 17, 1900 to Oct. 22, 1901 - Index O.K. -Records O.K. - LDS# 0975833 Book Q - Oct. 23, 1901 to June 30, 1903 - Index O.K.- Records O.K. - LDS# 0975834 Book R - July 1, 1903 to June 30, 1904 - Index O.K.- Records O.K. - LDS# 0975835 Book ? - July 1, 1904 to Jan 31, 1905 - Index O.K. - Records Missing - Not Filmed This handout sheet also states that they have Birth Records from July 1, 1905, to March 31, 1906. All other Birth Records prior to April 18, 1906, were destroyed in the earthquake and fire. It has been some years since I looked at the films and I do not remember if the location of burial in on the Certificates. I found my people on the films that were "Index Only," those gave the "Undertaker" but not the location of burial. One of my finds on the Index was a Stillborn Male Child and both parents names were given. Yes, the actual Certificate was filmed on those where the Records remain. I am copying this to both the NorCal and CaSanFran Lists in the hopes it helps others that are interested in these records. I hope this answered all your questions. Jim Gallagher in Oregon In a message dated 3/21/02 4:42:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, JANR67A writes: > Thanks for this posting ... I've picked up two interesting names from this > early index. Does your message mean that the LDS have filmed the actual > death certificate? and from your experience ... if it were a child (I've > got a two year old who died in 1868) might it show parents/where buried? > This is really exciting. > > Janet

The following was scanned into OCR (format lost) from a paper I received from the SF DOH office in June 1960 (believe that?). Begin scan>>>>> DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH San Francisco, Calif. RECORDS AVAILABLE PRIOR TO APRIL 18th, 1906 ------------------------------------------------- BIRTHS All local records prior to April 18th, 1906, were destroyed, with the exception of July 1st, 1905, to March 31st, 1906. These are on file with the State Registrar of Vital Statistics, Sacramento, California. DEATHS Book 1 - Nov. 8, 1865 to Sept. 30, 1869 {Index Missing {Record O.K. Book 2 - 0ct. 1, 1869 to April 30, 1873 {Index Missing {Record O.K. Book 3 - April 1, 1882 to June 30, 1889 {Index Missing (Contains Coroner's Cases only) {Record O.K. Book "M" - Aug. 1, 1894 to June 30, 1896 {Index O.K. {Record O.K. Book "O" - July 1, 1898 to Mar. 16, 1900 {Index O.K. {Record Missing Book "P" - Mar. 17, 1900 to Oct. 22, 1901 {Index O.K. {Record O.K. Book "Q" - Oct.23, 1901 to June 30, 1903 {Index O.K. {Record O.K. Book "R" - July 1, 1903 to June 30, 1904 {Index O.K. {Record O.K. {Index O.K. July 1, 1904 to Jan. 31, 1905 {Records O.K. to Dec. 1, 1904 {(Records December 1904 and {January 1905 missing.) ------------------------------------------------- NOTE: All original birth and death certificates since July 1, 1905. filed monthly with the State Registrar of Vital Statistics, Sacramento, California. <<<<<End scan

Pamela and Bob Interesting point is this library is in the same building as Sutro Library is. George --- Pamela Storm Wolfskill <psw@sfo.com> wrote: > Bob and Mary Specht wrote: > > > > Would anyone have available the street address of > Labor Archives and > > Research Center of San Francisco State University > I would like to > > contact them about an 1880's union membership. Or > better yet if I > < could contact them by Email that would be great. > > Hi Bob, > > Go to The USGenWeb San Francisco site at: > http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrancty.htm > On the left, click "Research Facilities". Scroll > down and click > "Labor Archives and Research Center". You'll find > what you need > there. > > If you're able to obtain any helpful material or > information from > them, would you kindly come back and share your > results/experience > with us? I've never used that facility, but I get > questions about it > from time to time. The USGenWeb San Francisco site > has a page called > "Research Tips": > http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrantip.htm > It would be great if you could share anything you > learn that might be > helpful to other researchers who might be interested > in using that > facility. Thank you, and good luck!!! > > Pam > psw@sfo.com > -- > Pamela Storm Wolfskill > The USGenWeb Project, San Francisco > http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrancty.htm > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards� http://movies.yahoo.com/

Bob and Mary Specht wrote: > > Would anyone have available the street address of Labor Archives and > Research Center of San Francisco State University I would like to > contact them about an 1880's union membership. Or better yet if I < could contact them by Email that would be great. Hi Bob, Go to The USGenWeb San Francisco site at: http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrancty.htm On the left, click "Research Facilities". Scroll down and click "Labor Archives and Research Center". You'll find what you need there. If you're able to obtain any helpful material or information from them, would you kindly come back and share your results/experience with us? I've never used that facility, but I get questions about it from time to time. The USGenWeb San Francisco site has a page called "Research Tips": http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrantip.htm It would be great if you could share anything you learn that might be helpful to other researchers who might be interested in using that facility. Thank you, and good luck!!! Pam psw@sfo.com -- Pamela Storm Wolfskill The USGenWeb Project, San Francisco http://www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfrancty.htm

Jim; Ever soooo correct..... Donna At 11:20 AM 3/20/02 EST, Xfiremar@aol.com wrote: >Carolyn: > I believe that the pre 1905 San Francisco Death Records being >transcribed are available at the Department of Health in San Francisco. They >have eight Books of records that survived the 1906 earthquake and fire. Six >of those books have been filmed by the LDS and the films can be ordered thru >them. Film numbers are # 0975830 thru #0975835. The two books that are not >on film are, "Book O" - July 1, 1898, to March 16, 1900 and an untitled Book >that covers July 1, 1904 to Jan. 31,1905. > I have search the LDS films and found one death in my family on >them. Im am awaiting the books that have not been filmed to be posted on the >site so I may continue my search. > >Jim Gallagher >in Oregon > >In a message dated 3/20/02 1:03:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, >CASANFRA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > >> Are these LDS films being used? if so, can you post the film >> > numbers? Are these lists from the Historical Society? >> > >> > The "Mortuary Records"- are these films?, or in hard copy book format ? >> If >> >so , >> > where are they located? >> > >> > The Death Registers- are these currently located at the SF Recorders >> > office......or are these films? >> > > > >

We are experiencing some minor problems with San Fran, but our computer guy is working on them. Most people can access. IF YOU HAVE NETSCAPE as your browser, be sure to allow a minute or two after it says it is done so Netscape can format the template. This site is Netscape tolerant, but not friendly. Donna At 10:45 AM 3/20/02 -0800, Pat wrote: > >--- CASANFRA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > >When I access this page, I get the 'homepage' with >some subheadings relating to donors, transcribers, >completion status etc. I have read all, and have >found it interesting and I am exceedingly grateful to >all the volunteers especially Donna. > >Obviously I am not doing something right however, >because I cannot find any of the records ("Part of San >Francisco is online"). Would someone be kind enough >to tell me what I am missing? > >Thanks so much, Pat > > >> with much more to follow. >> Today's Topics: >> #1 Re: [CASANFRA] pre-1905 project [carolyn >> <sweetwater@sierratel.com>] >> #2 Re: [CASANFRA] pre-1905 project >> ["Donna@MBS" <mbs@inland.net>] >> "Donna@MBS" wrote: >> >> > WORD IS OUT.... Part of San Francisco is online >> with much more to follow. >> > >> > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~cabf1905> >> > >> > Donna Bradley > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage >http://sports.yahoo.com/ > > >

Would anyone have available the street address of Labor Archives and Research Center of San Francisco State University I would like to contact them about an 1880's union membership. Or better yet if I could contact them by Email that would be great. Thanks in advance Bob Specht (rasmas@spiritone.com)