There are only 8 not 12 wards for San Francisco in 1870. Also consider the written versus stamped page number to help those of us who might take a look via browse mode, since I can find no S Rosenbatt for this census year. Kaye Steward <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings - I'd appreciate the assistance of any listmembers who have access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT' in this census - without the "L". I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and Retail) - and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar with those terms, so not sure what that might be. My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the years following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in later years, I believe the family had another business in 1870. I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in 1872 and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info. However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are there any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if Alice TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc) (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life are most welcome too!) K. Steward Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Need an obituary lookup? Visit sfgenealogy.com http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit

Greetings - I'd appreciate the assistance of any listmembers who have access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT' in this census - without the "L". I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and Retail) - and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar with those terms, so not sure what that might be. My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the years following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in later years, I believe the family had another business in 1870. I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in 1872 and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info. However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are there any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if Alice TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc) (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life are most welcome too!) K. Steward Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Michael, Bridget and Unknown Sister Lennan travelled to the USA c. 1870s. Their parents are believed to have been William Lennan and Mary O'Dwyer, all said to have been born in County Waterford, Eire. Michael and Bridget subsequently left the USA for New Zealand arriving Auckland sometime after 1876. Michael married in Auckland in 1880. The Unknown sister who remained in the US married, and in turn her married daughter Mollie Suell / Sewell Dohrmann (family spelling) is known to have visited NZ in the 1950s from the Oakland area. Any advice on tracking the US side of the family would be most appreciated. Diana New South Wales, Australia.

Mark wrote: > It would help if you could specify what types of records you are looking > for. Death records? Marriage records? Have you searched the 1910, 1920, > and 1930 censuses for Mary and her son? You mention getting information > on > Mary and her son while "they were in CA." Are you implying that they did > not remain California? Your query is very confusing. Sorry for the confusion, Mark. I can find Mary COLLINS in the 1910, 1920, 1930 census in Eagle Alaska where she died in 1933. Her death certificate notes she was from Ireland and lists a son, William DELANEY. Since I don't know what records are available for the San Francisco area in CA, I don't know exactly waht to ask for. If William Delaney was born in CA about 1883, would there be a birth records available? I don't know when or where Mary HUGHES became COLLINS or who she married. I don't know how her son became William Delaney. There is quite a story about this woman and her days in Alaska, but there are still many missing pieces of the puzzle. I just don't know where to look.

Mark wrote; "The California Birth Index (requires a paid subscription to Ancestry.com)" Hello, Just thought I'd mention that the CA birth Index is also available for FREE at Vitalsearch. for CA births... http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/ca/_vitals/cabirthm.htm main CA page .... free Death Index, some city/phone directories and marriages. http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/ and they also offer data to other states at the main home page http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/ Also the sfgenealogy.com web site, which has a ton of information by the way, offers a FREE CA birth index search site for the Sf bay area records at http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/cabiindex.php There search engine offers great search flexibility. Hope that helps, MeLani

1910 Ward 2, Oakland, Alameda Co., CA ED 88 pg 31B/sheet 10A family 185 Mary swell (?) age 68 wd b Ireland daughter Alice Halman age 26 b CA son-in-law Thomas Halman age 28 granddaughter Vesta Halman age 2 family 186 Dudley Sueell (spelling?) age 30 b CA house mover wife Sadie age 30 b CA dau Alice G. age 3 dau Vivian K. age 1 year and 4 months 1930 ED 103, Oakland, Alameda Co., CA Dudley Suell 9sp?) age 51 contractor house mover wife Sadie age 51 mother-in-law Sarah Mires age 76 b Scotland son-in-law Richard R. Montgomery age 26 born Colorado dauf=ghter Alice G. Montgomery age 26 b CA California death index Sadie Sueell born 1 Feb 1879 CA died Alameda Co. 5 sept 1949 mother's maiden name SWEENEY father surname MIRES

this might be your family-- 1900 US census, ED 376, Ward 6, Oakland, Alameda Co., CA head Walter SEWELL b May 1840 England house mover emigrated 1850 wife Mary Sewell b Oct 1848 had 11 children/6 still living b Ireland emigrated 1870 son Dudley b March 1877 age 21 b CA dau Alice b JULY 1884 age 16 b CA dau Mollie b Aug 1886 age 1920 US census, ED 152, Eden, Alameda Co, CA pg 182B/sheet 19 Mollie Dohrmann age 33 b CA and emplo0yee/infirmary nurse at Alameda County Infirmary b CA father b England mother b Ireland Ca death death Mollie S. Dohrmann born 26 Aug 1885 CA and died 20 Feb 1988 (over 100!) gives mothers maiden name as Lenane last residence for social security was South San Francisco, San Mateo Co., CA ss# 561-21-0798 (you can order a copy of the application where they give parents names)

The California Death Index, 1940-97 (available free online at http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi), contains the following two records: DOHRMANN, Mollie S. (lived to the age of 102!) DOB 26 Aug. 1885 DOD 20 Feb. 1988 Social Security #546-10-0372 Mother's maiden name: Lenane Father's surname: Sueell County of death: San Mateo SUEELL, Dudley Joseph (Mollie's brother?) DOB 27 March 1879 DOD 9 June 1950 Mother's maiden name: Lenane Father's surname: Sueell County of death: Alameda The California Birth Index (requires a paid subscription to Ancestry.com), shows the following birth: DOHRMANN, Marijuel DOB 24 Nov 1926 Female Mother's maiden name: Sueell County of birth: Sacramento There is a public record listing for a woman named Marijuel in California as follows: Marijuel D. Borges, age 80, residing at 233 Tono Lane, Walnut Creek, California 94597, telephone 925-472-0546. Walnut Creek is in Contra Costa County, which is next door to Alameda County, where Oakland is located. Both counties are across the bay from San Francisco. You are very lucky that Sueell and Marijuel are such uncommon names. Mark Lomax Pasadena, California Diana Surawski wrote: > Michael, Bridget and Unknown Sister Lennan travelled to the USA c. 1870s. > Their parents are believed to have been William Lennan and Mary O'Dwyer, > all said to have been born in County Waterford, Eire. Michael and > Bridget > subsequently left the USA for New Zealand arriving Auckland sometime > after > 1876. Michael married in Auckland in 1880. > > The Unknown sister who remained in the US married, and in turn her > married > daughter Mollie Suell / Sewell Dohrmann (family spelling) is known to > have > visited NZ in the 1950s from the Oakland area. > > Any advice on tracking the US side of the family would be most > appreciated. > > Diana > New South Wales, Australia. > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > See "What's New" at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/index.htm#new > >

I've been looking for Mary HUGHES COLLINS for several years now. I think I've located her in the 1900 Federal Census in San Francisco. This will be the first time I've researched in California and am hoping to get some guidance from the list. It would be greatly appreciated. Mary was born in 1864 in Ireland, immigrated in 1880, according to the census record. She was a dressmaker. She was a lodger at Hyde & Leavenworth. Her son, William DELANEY was born 1883 and was a boarder. He was born in California. I live in Maryland and am wondering where I should start to get information on these folks while they were in CA. Can anyone assist? Thanks, Sue

It would help if you could specify what types of records you are looking for. Death records? Marriage records? Have you searched the 1910, 1920, and 1930 censuses for Mary and her son? You mention getting information on Mary and her son while "they were in CA." Are you implying that they did not remain California? Your query is very confusing. Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA On 6/9/06, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've been looking for Mary HUGHES COLLINS for several years now. I think > I've located her in the 1900 Federal Census in San Francisco. This will be > the first time I've researched in California and am hoping to get some > guidance from the list. It would be greatly appreciated. Mary was born in > 1864 in Ireland, immigrated in 1880, according to the census record. She > was a dressmaker. She was a lodger at Hyde & Leavenworth. Her son, William > DELANEY was born 1883 and was a boarder. He was born in California. > > I live in Maryland and am wondering where I should start to get > information on these folks while they were in CA. Can anyone > assist? Thanks, Sue > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > See "What's New" at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/index.htm#new > >

Hi, I'm new to the list. I am interested in Oofty Goofty. There seems to be very little information about him. Basically I have come across Dickson's trilogy and Asbury's THE BARBARY COAST. I have read rumors on the INTERNET that Oofty Goofty was a deserter from the German army but I haven't found a reliable source. Can anyone tell me more and perhaps direct me to additional sources? Thanks, Brandon Craig

census work? SCHAEFER ADAM J 27 M W GERM CA SAN FRANCISCO SAN FRANCISCO 34-DIST 1900 459 Valencia Street, Adam J Oct 1878 and Fannie E, June 1881, married 1 year, 1 daughter Eva, 1 month old, born April 1900 SCHAEFER ADAM 46 M W GERM CA SAN FRANCISCO SAN FRANCISCO 1920 3252 16th street (also there in 1910) Adam Schaefer, age 46, painter, (immigrated 1891, naturalized 1896) in the 1920 census living with his wife Fannie, age 38 born CA of German parents, all children born in CA: Eva, age 19, railroad clerk, Antone14, Adam Jr. 11, Frances (daughter) 9, William 1 year 9 months, Birth index: SCHAEFER,ADAM, ,12/24/1908,MALE,FIEDLER,SAN FRANCISCO SCHAEFER FRANCES C 1910 11 09 SCHAEFER FEMALE SAN FRANCISCO SCHAFER WILLIAM 1918 03 31 FRIEDLER MALE SAN FRANCISCO Could be Frances' children ANDERSON ARLAN ALFRED 1932 05 01 SCHAEFER MALE SANTA CLARA 0 ANDERSON ALTA ANN 1935 07 16 SCHAEFER FEMALE SANTA CLARA Death index: SCHAEFER ADAM GUSTAV 12/24/1908 FIEDLER M CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO(38) 10/09/1983 556-03-7540 74 yrs Add SCHAEFER WILLIAM A 03/31/1918 FIEDLER M CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO(90) 04/15/1968 566-07-8332 50 yrs this is Fannie SCHAEFER FANNIE EH 06/18/1881 REICHEL F CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO(38) 12/20/1959 78 yrs this appears to be Frances.... ANDERSON FRANCES C 11/09/1910 FIEDLER F CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO(90) 05/24/1963 52 yrs 1930-39 CADI: Schaefer, Adam, spouse M (fuzzy), age 70, died 10/28/1937, San Francisco, #67813 SSDI: ADAM SCHAEFER 24 Dec 1908 Oct 1983 94132 (San Francisco, San Francisco, CA) (none specified) 556-03-7540 California Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus-Peter Hölzer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 2:28 AM Subject: [CASANFRA] Adam, Jacob, Karl, Maria and Sophie SCHAEFER > Hello, > > We are looking for descendants of the SCHAEFER siblings who emigrated to > San Francisco. > > In 1894 Maria SCHAEFER, born on 30 Aug 1877, to the United States of > America. On 20 Aug 1894 they arrived at Castle Garden, NY. > > Adam SCHAEFER, born 28 Oct 1873, Jacob SCHAEFER, born 9 Jan 1866 and Sophia SCHAEFER already > lived. They were all born in the same little village Unter Sensbach, > Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany as children of Johann Peter SCHAEFER and his > wife Margarete Elisabeth nee SCHWINN. > > Adam and Karl/Carl SCAEFER had a painting shop (459 Valencia St) and Jacob > was a painter (2753 Army St) too. > > > Best regards, > > Klaus-Peter Hoelzer > Waldstrasse 62 > 64354 Reinheim, Germany > [email protected]

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Klaus-Peter Found Adam, and his family in the 1910 Census, he was married to a Fannie, maiden name Fiedler, in about 1899, there 5 children born to them with 3 living in 1910, Eva, age 10; Anton, age 5; Adam G., age 1 1/2. In 1930 they had two more children, Frances C. a daughter, age 19; William M, age 12. Anton Henry Schaefer M.D., died 1946-09-30, born 1905-02-10, looks like he was a faculty member of the University of the California. Never married, it looks like. Fannie, (Frances) died 1959-12-20, born 1881-06-18, she was born in San Francisco. Adam, 1961-04-14, born 1873-10-28 Adam G. the son, died 1983-10-09, born 198\08-12-24; married Miss Valda Norton, on 1935-06-01. Will e-mail you more information, Thursday, have get the rest into order. George Klaus-Peter Hölzer <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, We are looking for descendants of the SCHAEFER siblings who emigrated to San Francisco. In 1894 Karl SCHAEFER, born on 21 Oct 1875 in Unter Sensbach, Germany, emigrated with his sister Maria SCHAEFER, born on 30 Aug 1877, to the United States of America. On 20 Aug 1894 they arrived at Castle Garden, NY. They moved to San Francisco where the siblings Adam SCHAEFER, born 28 Oct 1873, Jacob SCHAEFER, born 9 Jan 1866 and Sophia SCHAEFER already lived. They were all born in the same little village Unter Sensbach, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany as children of Johann Peter SCHAEFER and his wife Margarete Elisabeth nee SCHWINN. Adam and Karl/Carl SCAEFER had a painting shop (459 Valencia St) and Jacob was a painter (2753 Army St) too. In Sept. 1906 Karl SCHAEFER went back to Germany got married, had 4 children and died in Reinheim, Germany in 1943. Any advice and help to find or get in contact with relatives of these SCHAEFER siblings would be very appreciated. Best regards, Klaus-Peter Hoelzer Waldstrasse 62 64354 Reinheim, Germany [email protected] ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== sfgenealogy.com Your best resource for FREE online genealogy in San Francisco http://www.sfgenealogy.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello MeLani, Actually there was a town known as "Sisson" a very long time ago (c. 1870 or later I believe). It is now known as "Mount Shasta, California". It is a small tourist town located at the base of Mount Shasta. The town was also know as "Strawberry Valley" before it became known as "Sisson". The name "Sisson" was the name of one of the last known Indian inhabitants (a member of the Okwanuchu tribe - a branch of the larger Shasta tribe which inhabited most of Siskiyou county at one time). "Sisson Jim" or "Jim Sisson" lived there and I suspect that is how the town became known as "Sisson" at one time. Sisson Jim was believed to have died sometime before 1920. However, locals in the area would likely have no knowledge about the name "Sisson" or the fact that the town of Mount Shasta was once known as "Sisson". I believe it became known as "Sisson" after it was known as Strawberry Valley which was before the death of Sisson Jim himself I believe. I'm not exactly sure when it became known as the town of Mount Shasta (as it still is known today) nor exactly how long it was known as "Sisson". This town that was known as "Sisson" is located is Siskiyou county in the pacific northwest of California. The town of what was once known as "Sisson" is about 250 miles northeast from San Francisco. The name could also be "Lassen" which is the name of yet another mountain in the Cascadian mountain range. It, like Mount Shasta is also an active volcano. Lassen is located about 200 miles from San Francisco and 100 miles south of Mount Shasta. Lassen is located in another county however named "Lassen" county. Here is a link to the history of that particular region. http://www.co.lassen.ca.us/about.htm They might have a genealogy lists for these counties. Both of these counties are quite large but there aren't that many people living there in either one of them and the indigenous population became scant after the invasion of the white man which occurred in c. 1840. Maybe others on the list can help more if they might have specific knowledge of these regions and what other lists there might be that could be useful. Sue >From: "MeLani" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [CASANFRA] immigrant destination >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 11:23:47 -0500 > >I've recently found a few relatives on the Ellis Island ship records. >They were coming from Italy to CA. Manny of them list their destination >at Sisson, Cal. (Or it might read Lisson?) What town would this refer >to? They eventually ended up in Sonoma County. >thank you, >MeLani > > > >==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== >Need an obituary lookup? >Visit sfgenealogy.com >http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

I've recently found a few relatives on the Ellis Island ship records. They were coming from Italy to CA. Manny of them list their destination at Sisson, Cal. (Or it might read Lisson?) What town would this refer to? They eventually ended up in Sonoma County. thank you, MeLani

I was told by someone not on this list that Mount Shasta was originally called Sission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Shasta,_California Best, Carolyn carolyn wrote: > Maybe its Suisun? > http://www.cagenweb.com/solano/suisun.htm > > > > > MeLani wrote: > >> I've recently found a few relatives on the Ellis Island ship records. >> They were coming from Italy to CA. Manny of them list their destination >> at Sisson, Cal. (Or it might read Lisson?) What town would this refer >> to? They eventually ended up in Sonoma County. >> thank you, >> MeLani >> >> >> >> ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== >> Need an obituary lookup? >> Visit sfgenealogy.com >> http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit >> >> >> >> > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Need an obituary lookup? > Visit sfgenealogy.com > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > >

Maybe its Suisun? http://www.cagenweb.com/solano/suisun.htm MeLani wrote: >I've recently found a few relatives on the Ellis Island ship records. >They were coming from Italy to CA. Manny of them list their destination >at Sisson, Cal. (Or it might read Lisson?) What town would this refer >to? They eventually ended up in Sonoma County. >thank you, >MeLani > > > >==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== >Need an obituary lookup? >Visit sfgenealogy.com >http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > > > >

Has anyone ever come across the Pride of the Forest Circle #204 in 1915? It was listed in a death notice for a female cousin in 1915. I tried Google but nothing came close. The person lived on Texas Street nr. St. Teresa's Catholic Church, if that helps at all. Sure would appreciate any ideas. Thanks, Pat Pat [email protected] When the San Franciscan gets to heaven, he looks around and says "It's nice, but it isn't San Francisco" Herb Caen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello, We are looking for descendants of the SCHAEFER siblings who emigrated to San Francisco. In 1894 Karl SCHAEFER, born on 21 Oct 1875 in Unter Sensbach, Germany, emigrated with his sister Maria SCHAEFER, born on 30 Aug 1877, to the United States of America. On 20 Aug 1894 they arrived at Castle Garden, NY. They moved to San Francisco where the siblings Adam SCHAEFER, born 28 Oct 1873, Jacob SCHAEFER, born 9 Jan 1866 and Sophia SCHAEFER already lived. They were all born in the same little village Unter Sensbach, Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany as children of Johann Peter SCHAEFER and his wife Margarete Elisabeth nee SCHWINN. Adam and Karl/Carl SCAEFER had a painting shop (459 Valencia St) and Jacob was a painter (2753 Army St) too. In Sept. 1906 Karl SCHAEFER went back to Germany got married, had 4 children and died in Reinheim, Germany in 1943. Any advice and help to find or get in contact with relatives of these SCHAEFER siblings would be very appreciated. Best regards, Klaus-Peter Hoelzer Waldstrasse 62 64354 Reinheim, Germany [email protected]