Cathie Found in the San Francisco Call April 10, 1880 pg 4 col 4: McLAUGHLIN- In this city, April 9, Elizabeth, beloved wife of John L. McLaughlin, a native of Indiana, aged 40 years and 4 months. [Boston papers please copy] Friends and acquaintances are respectfully invited to attend the funeral TO-MORROW (Sunday), at 2 O'clock P.M., from her late residence, Chenery street, off Old San Jose road, or Four Mile House. Checked the 1880-81 San Francisco City Directory, and found a John L. McLaughlin, with his residence listed a East side Chenery, near Charles, and listed as a carpenter. Hope this helps George The Schafers <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, Does anyone know where I can find a SF 1880 Mortality Schedule? Is their one online yet? I'm looking for my gggm in it, Elizabeth (Rachel) McLaughlin d. April 9, 1880 I'm not even sure what info it tells on it but I thought I'd check it out since I'm looking for any tiny detail on her to break through this wall. Let me know if anyone has access to one! Thanks, Cathie ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Got both - I guess I still exist. Strange! Thanks for your patience. Jim James R. Smith wrote: > I've posted a few messages to both NorCal and CASANFRA of late and > haven't received any back. I'm concerned that perhaps I inadvertently > set up a filter though I can't find one. Just testing to see if this > gets posted. Regular mail is fine and I'm still getting posts from > others. > > No need to respond - I should see it myself. > > Thanks! > Jim -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>
I've posted a few messages to both NorCal and CASANFRA of late and haven't received any back. I'm concerned that perhaps I inadvertently set up a filter though I can't find one. Just testing to see if this gets posted. Regular mail is fine and I'm still getting posts from others. No need to respond - I should see it myself. Thanks! Jim -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>
Hi Fellow SF Researchers, A gentleman on the ARMSTRONG list asked me: "Supposedly my Grandfather's brother, Matthew Philemon Armstrong, was visiting in San Francisco at the time of the earthquake. "April 16th 1906." No one has ever heard from him since that day. I wonder how many other families had the same experience. Sincerely, Bob Armstrong in Houston, TX" Is there somewhere that I could direct him to look for his grandfather's brother post earthquake? I believe I read that there was a list somewhere of people who perished but I don't recall where it was. Thanks in advance for any assistance! Linda Hamid Sweetwater Poultry email: [email protected] web: www.sweeth2o.us
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Hi again Cathy - I suppose you've already looked at the San Francisco Call Data Base... I see there is an "ELIZABETH MCLAUGHLIN" listed - "died 1880". I'm sure you know, this would be a death notice in one of the San Francisco Newspapers from that time period (and it MIGHT) be your gggm).... Thinking this would help you find what you were hoping to find in the Mortality Schedule... http://cefha.org/usa/ca/sf/sfcall/sfcalli.html. http://www.cefha.org/cgi-bin/swish.cgi Hope this helps... Ruth _______________________________ Ruth (Grady) Skewis [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: The Schafers [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CASANFRA] 1880 SF Mortality Schedule > > Hi, > Does anyone know where I can find a SF 1880 Mortality > Schedule? Is their one online yet? > > I'm looking for my gggm in it, Elizabeth (Rachel) McLaughlin > d. April 9, 1880 > > I'm not even sure what info it tells on it but I thought I'd > check it out since I'm looking for any tiny detail on her to > break through this wall. > > Let me know if anyone has access to one! > > Thanks, > Cathie > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm >
To Lori in Seattle WA mailto:[email protected] I have copied the material that you requested and will be mailing it to you shortly. Meanwhile, here are some highlights .... James Henry Hatch, DDS, has been a resident of the Pacific Coast since 1853 and has been engaged in the practice of dentistry since 1859. He was born in Williamstown, VT, in 1839, the son of Henry L. Hatch. Henry was one of the pioneer viticulturists of the state, his wines in Nevada county having a valuable reputation, even all over the coast. In 1885, Henry took the premium for the best Port and Angelica wines at the State Fair. He is now a resident of the lemon and raisin districts in Tulare County. James H., our subject, received his early eduaction in the public schools of Waukegan, IL. His parents had moved there when he was 5 years old. At the age of 14, in 1853, he came with his mother and family to California, his father having alread come to the Coast in 1850. In 1859, he commenced the study of denistry in the office of Dr. A. Chapman, a well-known dentist of Nevada City. He studied with him for three years. James then went to Philadelphia where he entered the Pennsylvania College of Dental Surgery and graduated in 1863. For a year he practiced in Carson City, Nevada, and another year in San Francisco. He then went to Portland OR where he practiced for 7 years. In 1876 he returned to San Francisco. For two years he was connected with the Clinical Board of the College of Dentistry of the University of California. You mentioned in your letter of request that you had access to the pre-1940 CADI. I did check and Dr. Hatch died in San Francisco on October 11 1921. I didn't check for an obit since I assume you were not interested in that. from the World Tree on Ancestry.com it appears that James was married in 1866 to Mary Shuffleton Tracy. His father is listed as Henry Lewis Hatch (born March 22, 1814; died Oct 6 1892) and his mother is listed as Elizabeth Warburton Jeffords (born April 6, 1816;died 1908) If you want, I could check for possible obit on Henry Lewis Hatch since he died in CA. Not sure if his wife did as well, but that could be established by a look at the CADI for her. Also, you may want to look for death date on Mary (Tracy) Hatch. It does not appear they had any children. The 1920 Census (a year before he died) shows he was a widow so Mary must have died prior to 1920. James H Hatch Age: 80 years Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Birthplace: Vermont Race: White Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 28, San Francisco, California Home owned: Own Sex: Male Marital status: Widow
I believe I reviewed a copy recently at the Sutro Library on Winston in San Francisco. It was in the stacks of books. I'm sure the librarian can direct you. I just came across it by chance and found a great uncle who died. Good luck! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Good luck with your new search.... Sorry I can't help you with this.... BUT..... I'm wondering if you received my post, sent to you on 5/30, in reply to your post the same day regarding the 1900 "Census Page Help (JOYHN MCLLAUGHLIN, SOLANO CO. CA )". You wrote, that you were having problems reading the census scan on Ancestry, so I sent you the improved scan that I was able to find on Heritage Quest..... I still have this in my outbox and can resend... If you did not get it... I always wonder if my replies are received when I don't get an acknowledgement..... So I save them in my outbox until I hear back... Do let me hear, OKAY?? Good luck with your new search... Ruth _______________________________ Ruth (Grady) Skewis [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: The Schafers [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CASANFRA] 1880 SF Mortality Schedule > > Hi, > Does anyone know where I can find a SF 1880 Mortality > Schedule? Is their one online yet? > > I'm looking for my gggm in it, Elizabeth (Rachel) McLaughlin > d. April 9, 1880 > > I'm not even sure what info it tells on it but I thought I'd > check it out since I'm looking for any tiny detail on her to > break through this wall. > > Let me know if anyone has access to one! > > Thanks, > Cathie > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm >
Hi, Does anyone know where I can find a SF 1880 Mortality Schedule? Is their one online yet? I'm looking for my gggm in it, Elizabeth (Rachel) McLaughlin d. April 9, 1880 I'm not even sure what info it tells on it but I thought I'd check it out since I'm looking for any tiny detail on her to break through this wall. Let me know if anyone has access to one! Thanks, Cathie
MeLani, Mark, Leila Many thanks for the information and the suggested avenues for further research on my Lennan/Suell/Dohrmann families. Diana
Yea! I think that I have a solid answer! Thanks to Rebekah for the link to the Rosenblatt's business and residence in the 1864 City Directory for San Francisco - and to JA Lounibos for the link to high-end fashion shawls - which does seem most likely as at least part of the Rosenblatt's fancy goods business. There are 2 relevant listings in the 1864 Directory (see URL below) (1) Business: Fancy Goods - Retail - Importers: Rosenblatt, S. , 125 Montgomery (2) Residents: Rosenblatt, S. Palace of Fashion, 125 Montgomery, dwl 105 Powell What a great bunch of people on this list - thanks to all! Kaye Steward -----Original Message----- From: Rebekah [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: June 12, 2006 12:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Rosenbatt / Rosenblatt family - 1870 Census - 2nd Precinct, 12 Ward, San Francisco (for TREAHY) Try here: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/1864.php?page=286 Rosenblatt S. sells Fancy Goods. Rebekah ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm
Try here: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/1864.php?page=286 Rosenblatt S. sells Fancy Goods. Rebekah
Thanks for responding - "Shawl Store" ... I can see where the writing looks like 'shawl', and perhaps, because they were Jewish, they sold prayer shawls and other religious items...just speculation, of course. However, I can't help but think that 'shawl store' heightens the mystery - imagine a wealthy man by any standards ($50,000 worth of real estate, $100,000 of personal estate in that 1870 Census) and with 5 children - making a living by selling 'shawls'... must have been a high fashion item at that time. (grin) Seriously, I do appreciate the suggestion - I will see what I can find that fits with this possibility! Kaye -----Original Message----- From: JA Lounibos [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: June 11, 2006 9:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Rosenbatt / Rosenblatt family - 1870 Census - 2nd Precinct, 12 Ward, San Francisco (for TREAHY) It may have have had only eight wards, but Ancestry's copy of the page/49 has Census > U.S. Census > 1870 United States Federal Census > California > San Francisco > San Francisco Ward 12 Image 168 Written page 49, 2nd Preceinct, 12th Ward.........18th of June 1870.........??? I'd venture..... Wh & Ret Shawl Store/Wholesale & Retail Shawl Store.....??? JAL......hmmmm? --- Doug Urbanus <[email protected]> wrote: > There are only 8 not 12 wards for San Francisco in 1870. Also consider the written versus > stamped page number to help those of us who might take a look via browse mode, since I can find > no S Rosenbatt for this census year. > > > Kaye Steward <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings - I'd appreciate the assistance of any > listmembers who have > access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in > de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that > Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT' in > this census - without the "L". > > I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and Retail) - > and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar > with those terms, so not sure what that might be. > > My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants > working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's > business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the years > following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in later > years, I believe the family had another business in 1870. > > I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent > years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in 1872 > and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info. > > However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to > resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa > 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are there > any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if Alice > TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF > before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc) > > (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in > 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San > Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life > are most welcome too!) > > K. Steward > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Need an obituary lookup? > Visit sfgenealogy.com > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > See "What's New" at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/index.htm#new > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Need an obituary lookup? Visit sfgenealogy.com http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit
Up to about 1870, shawls were a dominant fashion item. Paisley, Kashmir, Pashmina....all kinds, but definitely high end.... http://www.victoriana.com/library/paisley/shawl.html --- Kaye Steward <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for responding - "Shawl Store" ... I can see where the writing looks > like 'shawl', and perhaps, because they were Jewish, they sold prayer shawls > and other religious items...just speculation, of course. > > However, I can't help but think that 'shawl store' heightens the mystery - > imagine a wealthy man by any standards ($50,000 worth of real estate, > $100,000 of personal estate in that 1870 Census) and with 5 children - > making a living by selling 'shawls'... must have been a high fashion item at > that time. (grin) > > Seriously, I do appreciate the suggestion - I will see what I can find that > fits with this possibility! > Kaye > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JA Lounibos [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: June 11, 2006 9:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Rosenbatt / Rosenblatt family - 1870 Census - > 2nd Precinct, 12 Ward, San Francisco (for TREAHY) > > > It may have have had only eight wards, but Ancestry's copy of the page/49 > has > > Census > U.S. Census > 1870 United States Federal Census > California > San > Francisco > San > Francisco Ward 12 Image 168 > > Written page 49, 2nd Preceinct, 12th Ward.........18th of June > 1870.........??? > > I'd venture..... Wh & Ret Shawl Store/Wholesale & Retail Shawl Store.....??? > > JAL......hmmmm? > > --- Doug Urbanus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > There are only 8 not 12 wards for San Francisco in 1870. Also consider > the written versus > > stamped page number to help those of us who might take a look via browse > mode, since I can find > > no S Rosenbatt for this census year. > > > > > > Kaye Steward <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings - I'd appreciate the > assistance of any > > listmembers who have > > access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in > > de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that > > Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT' > in > > this census - without the "L". > > > > I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and > Retail) - > > and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar > > with those terms, so not sure what that might be. > > > > My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants > > working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's > > business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the > years > > following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in > later > > years, I believe the family had another business in 1870. > > > > I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent > > years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in > 1872 > > and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info. > > > > However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to > > resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa > > 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are > there > > any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if > Alice > > TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF > > before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc) > > > > (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in > > 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San > > Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life > > are most welcome too!) > > > > K. Steward > > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > > > > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > > Need an obituary lookup? > > Visit sfgenealogy.com > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > > > > > > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > > See "What's New" at sfgenealogy.com: > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/index.htm#new > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Need an obituary lookup? > Visit sfgenealogy.com > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > San Francisco History at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/history/sindex.htm > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Thanks for trying to help on this, Doug - and others. I've double-checked the original document as it is scanned on Ancestry.com and I do think it is pretty clear that it reads "2nd Precinct, 12th Ward, County of San Francisco, page 49, but I guess I should have included the number "798" which is also stamped on the document. On Ancestry, it is Image 168 of 328. Sorry - I meant to provide enough info that people could help me without difficulty. Another kind listmember gave me the following information about the location of this area, which I find very helpful: "Twelfth Ward, District No. 2Bounded by Bush Street on the north, Larkin Street on the east, Market Street to Ridley Street, and Ridley Street in a direct line to the Pacific Ocean on the south, and the Pacific Ocean on the west. The census districts were based on the voting/election districts. For San Francisco, you will find written descriptions and maps for 1852, 1860, 1870 and 1880 at: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/elect.htm" Many thanks to all who are trying to help solve the puzzle of the 'occupation' or 'name of company' of Mr. Rosenbatt (sic: Rosenblatt) -- any and all suggestions still very much welcome! Kaye Steward -----Original Message----- From: Doug Urbanus [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: June 11, 2006 6:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Rosenbatt / Rosenblatt family - 1870 Census - 2nd Precinct, 12 Ward, San Francisco (for TREAHY) There are only 8 not 12 wards for San Francisco in 1870. Also consider the written versus stamped page number to help those of us who might take a look via browse mode, since I can find no S Rosenbatt for this census year. Kaye Steward <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings - I'd appreciate the assistance of any listmembers who have access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT' in this census - without the "L". I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and Retail) - and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar with those terms, so not sure what that might be. My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the years following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in later years, I believe the family had another business in 1870. I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in 1872 and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info. However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are there any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if Alice TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc) (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life are most welcome too!) K. Steward Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Need an obituary lookup? Visit sfgenealogy.com http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== See "What's New" at sfgenealogy.com: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/index.htm#new
It may have have had only eight wards, but Ancestry's copy of the page/49 has Census > U.S. Census > 1870 United States Federal Census > California > San Francisco > San Francisco Ward 12 Image 168 Written page 49, 2nd Preceinct, 12th Ward.........18th of June 1870.........??? I'd venture..... Wh & Ret Shawl Store/Wholesale & Retail Shawl Store.....??? JAL......hmmmm? --- Doug Urbanus <[email protected]> wrote: > There are only 8 not 12 wards for San Francisco in 1870. Also consider the written versus > stamped page number to help those of us who might take a look via browse mode, since I can find > no S Rosenbatt for this census year. > > > Kaye Steward <[email protected]> wrote: Greetings - I'd appreciate the assistance of any > listmembers who have > access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in > de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that > Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT' in > this census - without the "L". > > I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and Retail) - > and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar > with those terms, so not sure what that might be. > > My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants > working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's > business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the years > following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in later > years, I believe the family had another business in 1870. > > I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent > years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in 1872 > and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info. > > However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to > resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa > 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are there > any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if Alice > TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF > before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc) > > (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in > 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San > Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life > are most welcome too!) > > K. Steward > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Need an obituary lookup? > Visit sfgenealogy.com > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > See "What's New" at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/index.htm#new > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
This seems to show Ward 12. Arthur Rosenbatt San Francisco Ward 12, San Francisco, CA abt 1868 California White Male Camille Rosenbatt San Francisco Ward 12, San Francisco, CA abt 1866 New York White Female Edgar Rosenbatt San Francisco Ward 12, San Francisco, CA abt 1869 California White Male Lillie Rosenbatt San Francisco Ward 12, San Francisco, CA abt 1867 California White Female Milton Rosenbatt San Francisco Ward 12, San Francisco, CA abt 1864 California White Male Rose Rosenbatt San Francisco Ward 12, San Francisco, CA abt 1846 New York White Female S Rosenbatt San Francisco Ward 12, San Francisco, CA abt 1836 Hesse-Kassel / Hessen-Kassel / Electorate of Hesse / Kurhessen White Male Doug Urbanus <[email protected]> wrote: There are only 8 not 12 wards for San Francisco in 1870. Also consider the written versus stamped page number to help those of us who might take a look via browse mode, since I can find no S Rosenbatt for this census year. Kaye Steward wrote: Greetings - I'd appreciate the assistance of any listmembers who have access to the 1870 Census (on Ancestry or elsewhere) - I need help in de-coding the handwritten 'occupation' of S. ROSENBATT on page 49 of that Census. The surname was really 'ROSENBLATT' - but is written 'ROSENBATT' in this census - without the "L". I think the occupation reads "Wh & Ret" (presumably Wholesale and Retail) - and then something that looks like "Shawl Stone" ... but I'm not familiar with those terms, so not sure what that might be. My gr-grandmother, Alice Treahy, is one of the 4 Irish domestic servants working for this family in 1870, and I'm curious about Mr. Rosenblatt's business. This family seems to have been quite prominent in SF in the years following 1870, and though some of their sons became wine merchants in later years, I believe the family had another business in 1870. I've found numerous reference to the Rosenblatt family in SF in subsequent years, after my gr-grandmother was married to Richard Cullen STEWARD in 1872 and no longer working for them - so I don't need that info. However, I would be very grateful to connect with anyone who has access to resources from this period that would tell me more about this family circa 1870 - or photos of them or their home or business - in the 1870s. Are there any city directories or other sources remaining that would tell me if Alice TREAHY was in San Francisco before 1870? Does the TREAHY name appear in SF before 1870? (spelling variations include TREHY, TRAHEY, etc) (Note: Alice Mary Treahy was born in Ballingarry, Limerick Co, Ireland in 1847, and I've never been able to find out how she got herself to San Francisco by 1870 - any suggestions or insights on that aspect of her life are most welcome too!) K. Steward Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Need an obituary lookup? Visit sfgenealogy.com http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== See "What's New" at sfgenealogy.com: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/index.htm#new __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com