I could check to see if she is in the Edan Hughes books. Let me know. Sandra -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lomax [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Madeline Gleason Poet What information are you looking for? You're more likely to get a meaningful response if you are specific about what you are looking for. Are you looking for family information or information on her life as a poet? According to the California Death Index, Madeline Gleason was born 26 January 1903 in North Dakota and died 22 April 1979 in San Francisco. There is a lot of information on Madeline Gleason on the Internet. Just do a Google search on her name. Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA bmtpalmer wrote: > I am trying to find information on a poet that lived in San Francisco in the 40's, 50's and 60's. She was part of the North Beach Beat Scene. Her name is Madeline Gleason. She is a distant relative of my wife. She died in the early 1970's. Any information would be helpful. Thanks. > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Need an obituary lookup? > Visit sfgenealogy.com > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > > >

I am not sure if you got this e-mail that I sent you the first time you asked about this women or not. '-) George I found the following on Madeline: From the papers: 1947-04-28, Poetry Fete, first of her group readings 1948-04-11, Second poetry reading for group 1959-11-15, her play is preform 1959-12-02, review in paper 1959-12-30, show back on stage 1977-11-06, poem about her with a photo of her. 1979-04-24, two obits on her death. In the San Francisco Library, are the following books of poetry that she wrote: Record 1 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHORIn the San Francisco Library, are the following books of poetry that she wrote: Record 1 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHOR Gleason, Madeline. TITLE Concerto for bell and telephone. PUB INFO San Francisco, 1966. DESCRIPT 52 p. 24 cm. NOTE Imprint covered by label: [Santa Barbara, Calif.] Unicorn Press, in association with Unicorn Book Shop, 1967. NOTE "500 copies printed." NOTE Poems. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Dsk/R 811 G475c LIB USE ONLY 2 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475c CHECK SHELF Record 2 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHOR Gleason, Madeline. TITLE Here comes everybody : new & selected poems / by Madeline Gleason ; drawings by Paul Blake. PUB INFO San Francisco : Panjandrum Press, 1975. DESCRIPT [52] p. : ill. ; 22 cm. STANDARD # 0915572168 : $3.00. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 811 G475h CHECK SHELF 2 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475h CHECK SHELF Record 3 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHOR Gleason, Madeline. TITLE The metaphysical needle / Madeline Gleason ; decorations by Hal Goldman. PUB INFO San Francisco : The Centaur Press, 1949. DESCRIPT 5 p. ., 1-53 [1] p. : ill. ; 23 cm. NOTE One of 483 copies. NOTE Bound in yellow paper boards; printed in gray. Dust jacket. NOTE Inscribed to James Broughton by the poet and illustrator. NOTE From the library of James Broughton. ADD AUTHOR Goldman, Hal., ill. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475m CHECK SHELF 2 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475m CHECK SHELF Record 4 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHOR Gleason, Madeline. TITLE Selected poems. EDITION [Limited 1st ed. PUB INFO Georgetown, Calif. : Dragon's Teeth Press, 1972] DESCRIPT viii, 61 p. 18 cm. SERIES Living poets library. Penultimate series, no. 1. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475s CHECK SHELF Gleason, Madeline. TITLE Concerto for bell and telephone. PUB INFO San Francisco, 1966. DESCRIPT 52 p. 24 cm. NOTE Imprint covered by label: [Santa Barbara, Calif.] Unicorn Press, in association with Unicorn Book Shop, 1967. NOTE "500 copies printed." NOTE Poems. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Dsk/R 811 G475c LIB USE ONLY 2 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475c CHECK SHELF Record 2 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHOR Gleason, Madeline. TITLE Here comes everybody : new & selected poems / by Madeline Gleason ; drawings by Paul Blake. PUB INFO San Francisco : Panjandrum Press, 1975. DESCRIPT [52] p. : ill. ; 22 cm. STANDARD # 0915572168 : $3.00. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 811 G475h CHECK SHELF 2 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475h CHECK SHELF Record 3 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHOR Gleason, Madeline. TITLE The metaphysical needle / Madeline Gleason ; decorations by Hal Goldman. PUB INFO San Francisco : The Centaur Press, 1949. DESCRIPT 5 p. ., 1-53 [1] p. : ill. ; 23 cm. NOTE One of 483 copies. NOTE Bound in yellow paper boards; printed in gray. Dust jacket. NOTE Inscribed to James Broughton by the poet and illustrator. NOTE From the library of James Broughton. ADD AUTHOR Goldman, Hal., ill. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475m CHECK SHELF 2 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475m CHECK SHELF Record 4 of 4 LOCATIONS MAIN:Floor 3 General Coll AUTHOR Gleason, Madeline. TITLE Selected poems. EDITION [Limited 1st ed. PUB INFO Georgetown, Calif. : Dragon's Teeth Press, 1972] DESCRIPT viii, 61 p. 18 cm. SERIES Living poets library. Penultimate series, no. 1. 1 > MAIN:Floor 3 Page Desk 811 G475s CHECK SHELF At San Francisco State Library is a copy of her play: Database: WorldCat Query: (ti: why and ti: world) and au: gleason Libraries with Item: "Why in the world; / a pla..."Location Library Code CA -UNIV OF SAN FRANCISCO, GLEESON LIBR CUF - Record for Item: "Why in the world; / a pla..." Why in the world; a play Madeline Gleason 1950-1979? English Book : Thesis/dissertation/manuscript Archival Material [40] l. 29 cm. Availability: Check the catalogs in your library. Libraries worldwide that own item: 1 Search the holdings at San Francisco Public Library Find Items About: Gleason, Madeline.1 Title: Why in the world; a play Author(s): Gleason, Madeline. Year: 1950-1979? Description: [40] l. 29 cm. Language: English Note(s): Typescript (mimeographed)./ Title in ink, replacing original mimeographed title: Whose cross?/ Numerous corrections, penciled in throughout. General Info: Original or duplicate materials: Donohoue Rare Book Room, Gleeson Library, University of San Francisco. Class Descriptors: LC: PS3513.L642 Responsibility: by Madeline Gleason. Material Type: Manuscript (mss) Document Type: Book; Archival Material Entry: 19790920 Update: 20040419 Accession No: OCLC: 5394955 Database: WorldCat Let me know if I can help with anything. George bmtpalmer <[email protected]> wrote: I am trying to find information on a poet that lived in San Francisco in the 40's, 50's and 60's. She was part of the North Beach Beat Scene. Her name is Madeline Gleason. She is a distant relative of my wife. She died in the early 1970's. Any information would be helpful. Thanks. ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Need an obituary lookup? Visit sfgenealogy.com http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.

Ken, I did not count them but there were many pages of little boys. I am sure that many mistakes were made. Rebekah

Thanks Rebekah, I had seen that entry in the past and was curious about it. There is a mismatch of middle name/initial and age, but then, I know how it goes sometimes with the accuracy of the census records! I think I'll dig into it a little further. Ken --- Rebekah <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry, I have been distracted by school work. Was > someone looking for an > Orphan named Joseph Waters? > > 1900: > (San Raphael Twp.) Las Galinas, Marin Co., > California, United States > Roll: T623_93, ED: 209, Page: 5A > St. Vincents Asylum > 22nd Day of June 1900 > ... > Waters, Joseph W M May 1889 11 CA Ger Ger Pupil > > God Bless, > Rebekah > > > rwalker wrote: > > Ken, > > One thought as to Orphanage, would be St. > Vincent's in San Rafael, Marin > > County. You might check the 1900 & 1910 Census for > Marin to see if he is > > enumerated among the orphans. > > "rwalker" > > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > > Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm > > > > > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Need help with a lookup? > sfgenealogy.com has many volunteers who offer free > lookup help: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfranlok.htm > >

What information are you looking for? You're more likely to get a meaningful response if you are specific about what you are looking for. Are you looking for family information or information on her life as a poet? According to the California Death Index, Madeline Gleason was born 26 January 1903 in North Dakota and died 22 April 1979 in San Francisco. There is a lot of information on Madeline Gleason on the Internet. Just do a Google search on her name. Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA bmtpalmer wrote: > I am trying to find information on a poet that lived in San Francisco in the 40's, 50's and 60's. She was part of the North Beach Beat Scene. Her name is Madeline Gleason. She is a distant relative of my wife. She died in the early 1970's. Any information would be helpful. Thanks. > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Need an obituary lookup? > Visit sfgenealogy.com > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfrantip.htm#sfmainobit > > >

I am trying to find information on a poet that lived in San Francisco in the 40's, 50's and 60's. She was part of the North Beach Beat Scene. Her name is Madeline Gleason. She is a distant relative of my wife. She died in the early 1970's. Any information would be helpful. Thanks.

I have the dc transcription for Agatha May Ogden and her obituary. Plus the obit on Lyle. You are correct, it was in the Sacramento Bee too. Will mail to you tomorrow. Sandra _____ From: Henry & Charlotte Low [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sacramento Co Lookup Sandra, thanks for prompt reply. Please proceed and let me know what I owe you. Thanks, Henry ----- Original Message ----- From: sandrah <mailto:[email protected]> To: Henry <mailto:[email protected]> & Charlotte Low Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: RE: Sacramento Co Lookup I can check in the Sacto Bee and see if he pops up. Also, can look at dc for Agatha Low Ogden in 1933 and for obit too in Bee. She died at age 65 on 5 /15/1933 in Sacramento. Spouse initials F W -----Original Message----- From: Henry & Charlotte Low [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Sacramento Co Lookup Hi Sandra, I am researching the Francis W. Ogden- Agatha Low Ogden descendants of Sacramento. One of their sons Lyle L. Ogden died on July 2nd , 1944 in the V.A. hospital in Palo Alto, Calif and was buried July 5th, 1944 in the Golden gate National Cemetery. I was wondering if you could do a look-up to see if there is an obit for him in the Sacramento newspaper. His death cert indicated his usual address was Route ?2, Box 3200, Sacramento. On the sacramento web site it mentioned that you can transcribe death cert. also. I am wondering if this means you have access to death certs. Lyle's mother , Agatha Low Ogden died in 1933 in Sacramento and is buried in the Elder Creek Cemetery, Florin. My problem I don't know month or day and thus haven't been able to track down an obit for her. would appreciate suggestions on how the best way to get a death cert for her. I will be more than willing to cover expenses for this lookup. Will send check ahead of time if you so desire. Thanking you for your help in this request. Henry C. Low e-mail; [email protected]

A full index to the 1880 Mortality Schedule is online through Ancestry. I do not see Elizabeth in it though. Nor any other McLaughlin/Mc Laughlins in California. God Bless, Rebekah

Sorry, I have been distracted by school work. Was someone looking for an Orphan named Joseph Waters? 1900: (San Raphael Twp.) Las Galinas, Marin Co., California, United States Roll: T623_93, ED: 209, Page: 5A St. Vincents Asylum 22nd Day of June 1900 ... Waters, Joseph W M May 1889 11 CA Ger Ger Pupil God Bless, Rebekah rwalker wrote: > Ken, > One thought as to Orphanage, would be St. Vincent's in San Rafael, Marin > County. You might check the 1900 & 1910 Census for Marin to see if he is > enumerated among the orphans. > "rwalker" > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm > > >

In response to a few recent queries related to 19th century San Francisco records--or lack of them-- I would like to remind researchers of a brand new, comprehensive book that focuses on finding alternative sources for the city of San Francisco (or any other locality that presents problems because of "burned records"). Raking the Ashes,Genealogical Strategies for Pre-1906 San Francisco Research by Nancy Simons Peterson Please go to the Homepage of the California Genealogical Society and Library (www.calgensoc.org) for complete info, glowing reviews and ordering information. (For less than the cost of a single hour of paid research, you can have access to many research ideas. Or visit the CGS library for a day and browse a copy while there!) My apologies to those of you who are already aware of this book. Lorna Wallace CGS member

Ken, One thought as to Orphanage, would be St. Vincent's in San Rafael, Marin County. You might check the 1900 & 1910 Census for Marin to see if he is enumerated among the orphans. "rwalker"

Hi, I'll be visiting The City for the next week beginning on Monday. I've done research on my line before, focusing primarily on the city library---mostly the city directories and some miscellaneous documents available at the SF History Center. I've also spent quite a few hours researching at the Sutro Library. What I'm looking for are some new sources to look at. Both my father and grandfather were born in the city. Here is an extract of my family that's relevant to San Francisco: John WATERS, b. 1870-1880?, Scotland, d. Unknown + Irene BERKLEY, b. 1869, Washington DC, d. Unknown ...Joseph John WATERS, b. 23 Oct 1898, San Francisco; d. 28 Mar 1965, Portland OR. ...Thomas I. WATERS, b. abt 1900, San Francisco; d. Unknown (possibly in OR) ...+Caroline Margaret SYLVIA, b. 11 Nov 1891, Hawkinsville, Siskiyou, CA, d. 8 Aug 1963, Portland OR ......Richard Joseph WATERS, b. 22 Dec 1919, San Francisco; d. 8 Nov 1979, Petaluma CA. The problem I have is a common one for those with San Francisco roots, namely that many records that are needed were destroyed in the 1906 fire. My grandfather, Joseph WATERS, was supposedly sent to an orphanage somewhere as a young child, according to living relatives. I do not know what happened to his parents...I've searched carefully through the mortuary records at the SFPL for them. The family was Catholic so that is one angle I'd be interested in pursuing. I have reason to believe that Joseph's parents (John Waters/Irene Berkley) may have never been married. I base this on the fact that Irene is shown with her maiden name in entries in the city directories and census dated after Joseph's birth. I know this is not proof of that but it does seem to indicate it. I've also carefully searched the SF newspapers (microfilm at SFPL) looking for birth announcements for Joseph but was unable to find anything for Oct 1898. My sources for his birth are his death certificate and his Social Security application. I've carefully searched both city directories and census for all WATERS lines in the city from 1870-1905, hoping to gain more information (for details see: http://satwatcher.net/genealogy/html/sfdir.html). So, to summarize, I'm wondering if there are more sources out there that I could take advantage of. Any suggestions would be most welcome! Aloha, Ken Waters Honolulu, Hawaii

From an old Student Newsletter of St. Mary's Hospital, I found the following- -from The "Whites & Stripes" the student's newsletter of June-July 1957 Under an old photo in the newsletter of the graduates of the Class of 1905, (which was still at First and Bryant, where St., Mary's Hospital was before the EQ and Fire.), is a list of the graduates. 1905 Graduating Class -St. Mary's School of Nursing, San Francisco Superintendent of Nurses was Sister Mary Malachai, S. M. (Pictured in center of middle row) Top row- Annie JULIAN (Mrs. Rourke - deceased) Elsie WEBSTER Stella BEAVER Anastasia MILLER Gertrude COLEMAN (Mrs. Hull) Meta BROWN (Mrs. Mahan - deceased) Theresa O'CONNOR Mary O'CONNOR (Deceased) Genevieve PASSICH (Mrs. Blessing) Mellie MAZZA (Mrs. Henrioulle - deceased) Lillian MACASCHINI Hannah MC MAHON Nellie MC MORRHY (Mrs. Kay - deceased) Middle row- Christine MC GILLIS Jane O'NEILL (Deceased) Bridget O'NEILL (Deceased) Mary COLVEY Miss LA FRANCHI Ellen MULLEN (Sister Mary Paul of the Sisters of Mercy, deceased) Alice MEYERS (Mrs. Kyle) Agnes DE MARTINI (Mrs. Sweeney - deceased) Ollie MAZZA (Mrs. Keating - deceased) Bottom row- Emily JOHNSON Anna BUCKLEY Anna MULLEN Dorothy LE QUIMME (Deceased) Theresa GIORGIANNA (Deceased) Florence MULLEN (Deceased) Edna CANEPA (Died as a student of scarlet fever) Alice TURNER (Mrs. Turner - deceased) One Unknown Student. (Those noted as deceased were those known to be deceased as of June 1957 when the newsletter was published. The married names are for the ones known to have been married.) Information about the photo should be directed to St. Mary's Hospital and Medical Center in San Francisco. They still have many old photos. They had an exhibit of them a couple of years ago. I have no other information. "rwalker"

David What was your grandfather's middle name for there a number of William Brady's? As to birth records, those I hate to say were lost in the Earthquake and Fire of 1906. Might be in a paper, but all it would say a boy born to the first name of the father, last name and to his wife. As to baptismal records maybe but would have know what church they want to or where they had it done. George David Vernon <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Everybody, I recently joined this mailing list since I am starting a search for my grandfather William Brady b. Nov. 23, 1883 in San Francisco. His parents were reported to be James Brady and Nora Toohey. I am hoping to locate birth and/or baptismal records for him, also census records for the family. Family legend has it that William Brady had a brother Francis and a sister Loretta. In his Navy enlistment record (1918, Seattle, Washington) William lists his place of birth as San Francisco and his occupation as bricklayer. Possibly he was employed at the Ames Ship Yard, Seattle, Washington since he listed them as a reference in his Navy enlistment. In 1919 William Brady was released from active service at Philadelphia Navy Yard, he meet my grandmother and they married in 1920, thereafter living in Pennsylvania. I am hoping members of this list can give me some help with what genealogy resources are available to search San Francisco and California records for the time period 1880 – 1920. What genealogy societies are available, what online databases are available, what public libraries have genealogy collections, what websites are available focusing on San Francisco, CA? Does the Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco have baptismal records available and/or a database for burials in Catholic cemeteries? Are there any collections for orphanages in the San Francisco area? I expect to be doing my research from Pennsylvania via the internet, email and letters via US mail. Researching Brady, Toohey and Clary surnames David ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== sfgenealogy.com Your best resource for FREE online genealogy in San Francisco http://www.sfgenealogy.com --------------------------------- Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

Jake Dyels Jr. -- Foreign Service envoy - Jason B. Johnson, Chronicle Staff Writer Friday, June 16, 2006 Jake Marion Dyels Jr., who in 1957 became one of the first African American firefighters in Contra Costa County and later served as a diplomat in the U.S. Foreign Service, died Monday. He was 72. Mr. Dyels, of Brentwood, died at John Muir Hospital in Concord two days after being diagnosed with bile duct cancer. He was surrounded by his children and his wife of 50 years, W. Joanne Ellison Dyels. He served nine years as a Richmond firefighter, then joined the Peace Corps, becoming the agency's regional director in Colombia. After leaving the Corps, he joined the U.S. State Department and was appointed vice-consul at the American consulate in St. John's, Newfoundland. Mr. Dyels was born in Oklahoma and moved to California with his family a year later. He graduated from Berkeley High School in 1952 and went on to earn a bachelor's degree in international relations from San Francisco State University and a master's in public administration from the University of Oklahoma. He later attended the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. Over a 30-year Foreign Service career, Mr. Dyels held posts in Panama, Sri Lanka, the Netherlands and Mexico. He also served on the State Department Grievance Board and as a senior assessor to the Board of Examiners. He retired from the Foreign Service in 1997. Ralph Hartwell met Mr. Dyels when they were both assigned to the U.S. Embassy in Sri Lanka. He was impressed by Mr. Dyels' commitment to duty and pride at representing his country. "He was very dedicated, a really conscientious man," said Hartwell. "He was a great guy and a very close personal friend." Mr. Dyels' achievements also served as an inspiration to his family, said his daughter, Janice Strong. "My dad came from a very, very poor family," said Strong. "Nobody had ever gone to college. Most of them didn't even get through high school. In our family he's just idolized. "My dad was my best friend. He was the warmest, kindest person," said Strong. Mr. Dyels is survived by his wife, Joanne, daughters Jocelyn Dyels Fuller of Antioch, Karen Ann Dyels of Charlotte, N.C., Janice Dyels Strong of Palo Alto; and son, Kevin Richard Dyels of Silver Spring, Md. He also had nine grandchildren and twin great-grandchildren. He also leaves behind sisters Doris Jean Dyels Ferguson, Sandra D. Newton, Sharon D. Turner, Sheryle L. Griffin, Jean M. Martin and brother James M. Dyels. Funeral services were scheduled for 11:30 a.m. today at Immaculate Heart of Mary Church, 500 Fairview Ave., Brentwood. In lieu of flowers, the family requests donations be sent to the American Cancer Society in the name of Jake M. Dyels Jr. Page B - 9 URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/06/16/BAGV9JF91T1.DTL Ron Filion <[email protected]> wrote: Recently I got really interested in the famous graduates of San Francisco and surrounding area. Maybe it was because of all the yearbooks we have been transcribing recently. :-) Anyway, I started a list and posted it at: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/schools/famous.htm Obviously, it is incomplete. Does anyone have others to add? Have better info than what I posted? Actually have any of the yearbooks mentioned and have a picture of celebrity? :-) While I was putting together the list, I discovered a Junior High School picture of Carol Channing. Very cool. Okay, by the way, "famous" here means someone that is probably well known throughout the States, if not the World. . .or someone connected with a national/world famous event (like the Titanic). . .not just local celebrities. Ron ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== Visit San Francisco Genealogy http://www.sfgenealogy.com --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.

Hi Everybody, I recently joined this mailing list since I am starting a search for my grandfather William Brady b. Nov. 23, 1883 in San Francisco. His parents were reported to be James Brady and Nora Toohey. I am hoping to locate birth and/or baptismal records for him, also census records for the family. Family legend has it that William Brady had a brother Francis and a sister Loretta. In his Navy enlistment record (1918, Seattle, Washington) William lists his place of birth as San Francisco and his occupation as bricklayer. Possibly he was employed at the Ames Ship Yard, Seattle, Washington since he listed them as a reference in his Navy enlistment. In 1919 William Brady was released from active service at Philadelphia Navy Yard, he meet my grandmother and they married in 1920, thereafter living in Pennsylvania. I am hoping members of this list can give me some help with what genealogy resources are available to search San Francisco and California records for the time period 1880 – 1920. What genealogy societies are available, what online databases are available, what public libraries have genealogy collections, what websites are available focusing on San Francisco, CA? Does the Catholic Archdiocese of San Francisco have baptismal records available and/or a database for burials in Catholic cemeteries? Are there any collections for orphanages in the San Francisco area? I expect to be doing my research from Pennsylvania via the internet, email and letters via US mail. Researching Brady, Toohey and Clary surnames David

Hi Everybody-- I just joined the list primarily in order to get a feel for the questions people ask and to plug (I promise just once) the new book the California Genealogical Society just released, titled "Raking the Ashes: Genealogical Strategies for Pre-1906 San Francisco Research." You can learn more at www.calgensoc.org or ask me offline. Several have struggled with the question on the 1880 mortality schedules. There are many sources. Films of the originals are available on interlibrary loan within California from the state library. They have been filmed by the Family History Library on film #1,549,971, available on loan through local Family History Centers. The Sacramento Genealogical Society extracted the information for the entire state and published it in book format. This publication is available at Sutro Library and the California Genealogical Society Library in Oakland. "Raking the Ashes" is very comprehensive (over 200 pp) and your list moderator, Pam Wolfskill, was one of the reviewers. It's a guide, not a compendium of records; it shows you how to locate what you are looking for. The cost is a little under $20--much less than what you would pay for one hour of professional research. Nancy Peterson ____________________________________________________________________

Does anybody know, Is the cefha.org a private website or open? Every time I try to access the site I get a message the website is not found. If it is private they could be blocking my attempts. Thanks. David -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Skewis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [CASANFRA] 1880 SF Mortality Schedule Hi again Cathy - I suppose you've already looked at the San Francisco Call Data Base... I see there is an "ELIZABETH MCLAUGHLIN" listed - "died 1880". I'm sure you know, this would be a death notice in one of the San Francisco Newspapers from that time period (and it MIGHT) be your gggm).... Thinking this would help you find what you were hoping to find in the Mortality Schedule... http://cefha.org/usa/ca/sf/sfcall/sfcalli.html. http://www.cefha.org/cgi-bin/swish.cgi Hope this helps... Ruth _______________________________ Ruth (Grady) Skewis [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: The Schafers [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CASANFRA] 1880 SF Mortality Schedule > > Hi, > Does anyone know where I can find a SF 1880 Mortality > Schedule? Is their one online yet? > > I'm looking for my gggm in it, Elizabeth (Rachel) McLaughlin > d. April 9, 1880 > > I'm not even sure what info it tells on it but I thought I'd > check it out since I'm looking for any tiny detail on her to > break through this wall. > > Let me know if anyone has access to one! > > Thanks, > Cathie > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== San Francisco History at sfgenealogy.com: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/history/sindex.htm

Hi David - NO, not a private site - HOWEVER I could not get in just now either, even though I was in there last night... Maybe it is being worked on/updated just now - try again later. Good luck - it's a great site..!! Ruth _______________________________ Ruth (Grady) Skewis [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: David Vernon [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:13 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [CASANFRA] 1880 SF Mortality Schedule > > Does anybody know, Is the cefha.org a private website or > open? Every time I try to access the site I get a message > the website is not found. If it is private they could be > blocking my attempts. Thanks. > > David > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruth Skewis [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 5:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [CASANFRA] 1880 SF Mortality Schedule > > Hi again Cathy - > > I suppose you've already looked at the San Francisco Call > Data Base... I > see there is an "ELIZABETH MCLAUGHLIN" listed - "died 1880". > I'm sure you know, this would be a death notice in one of the > San Francisco Newspapers from that time period (and it MIGHT) > be your gggm).... Thinking this would help you find what you > were hoping to find in the Mortality Schedule... > > http://cefha.org/usa/ca/sf/sfcall/sfcalli.html. > > http://www.cefha.org/cgi-bin/swish.cgi > > > Hope this helps... Ruth > _______________________________ > Ruth (Grady) Skewis > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: The Schafers [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 6:02 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [CASANFRA] 1880 SF Mortality Schedule > > > > Hi, > > Does anyone know where I can find a SF 1880 Mortality Schedule? Is > > their one online yet? > > > > I'm looking for my gggm in it, Elizabeth (Rachel) > McLaughlin d. April > > 9, 1880 > > > > I'm not even sure what info it tells on it but I thought > I'd check it > > out since I'm looking for any tiny detail on her to break > through this > > wall. > > > > Let me know if anyone has access to one! > > > > Thanks, > > Cathie > > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > > Free Online Databases at sfgenealogy.com: > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm > > > > > ==== CASANFRA Mailing List ==== > San Francisco History at sfgenealogy.com: > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/history/sindex.htm >

Hi Ruth, Gosh you guys are so helpful on this list. Even though I have had her obit from the Sf Examiner for about 12 years I never thought that the SF Call would have different info! Someone sent me the obit today and it actually has a tiny clue in it!!! (Thanks George) The SF Examiner didn't say anything about [Boston Copy] which is a HUGE clue back to John working as a piano forter in Boston in 1857-1860 approx. then they must marry because there next two children were born in St. Louis in 1861/1863 and they head to Sf by 1867. The Boston Copy info is a great clue! I do have the other obit but it also doesn't have any thing about the Chenery St. info. They lived along Chenery up until 1911. I have John in a timeline from about 1869-1911 when he dies in SF. All the children grew up and also lived there (Johnson & Dean, Riley). I'm still am going to try to find the "SF Mortality Schedule" but this was totally an unexpected bit of info! Thank you, Cathie