I would like to know the answer also. I have scads (hundreds) of sheets from old (1870-1940+) obits and could make them available also. Pat Linda Emerson <[email protected]> wrote: I recently ordered three obituaries from the S.F. Library and see that they are now sending full images of the entire obit page rather than just the single obituary. I have obituaries for several names on the following dates but am unsure as to how to best post the information: January 7, 1930 February 4, 1937 November 16, 1977 Ron or Pam... should I just post the names to the list & see if anyone responds? Thanks... Linda ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Pat FLOOR: The place for storing your priceless genealogy records --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
I recently ordered three obituaries from the S.F. Library and see that they are now sending full images of the entire obit page rather than just the single obituary. I have obituaries for several names on the following dates but am unsure as to how to best post the information: January 7, 1930 February 4, 1937 November 16, 1977 Ron or Pam... should I just post the names to the list & see if anyone responds? Thanks... Linda
I have to agree, I don't like the changes. I liked the old way, where you looked up a name and could see what databases were connected. Then if you say that you want an exact search, everything from then on for all names is listed as exact. PLEASE Ancestry bring back the old way. They tried this once before. Pat Morano > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2006/09/05 Tue AM 03:08:21 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 18 > > > >
I have to agree, I don't like the changes. I liked the old way, where you looked up a name and could see what databases were connected. Then if you say that you want an exact search, everything from then on for all names is listed as exact. PLEASE Ancestry bring back the old way. They tried this once before. Pat Morano > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2006/09/05 Tue AM 03:08:21 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 18 > > > > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ancestry.com feedback (Donna Madrid) > 2. Re: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 ([email protected]) > 3. Re: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 (Judie Cook) > 4. DYER - MILLAR Family Photographs and BLAUER Bible > (Shelley Cardiel) > 5. NORCAL Genealogy Index (Yvonne Bowers) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:09:36 -0700 > From: "Donna Madrid" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] ancestry.com feedback > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I agree with Ancestry's changes in the search template......not very good at > all! Aside from that I love the site! > > Donna Fremont, CA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Thiele Fobian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:40 PM > Subject: [CASANFRA] ancestry.com feedback > > > Hi, Sue. > > I rely heavily on ancestry for both my personal and professional research. > I don't pay much attention to the trees posted there by other users (because > I can't depend on the information being accurate/documented), but I do use > the source materials (censuses, historical newspapers, WWI draft cards, > etc., etc.) all day long every working day of my life. I also subscribe to > genealogy.com, and it is useless by comparison. As far as I'm concerned, > ancestry is worth every penny. > > Having said that, it's also true that ancestry.com is currently > overhauling their organization of data and I am NOT pleased with the changes > in their search template. I hope that the change is temporary. > > I don't post any family tree information at ancestry.com. I maintain all > of my own and my clients' records in Family Tree Maker databases on my own > computer. I don't want to proliferate any of my unproven guesses. > Occasionally I'll privatize one of my own files, generate a descendant > report, and post the information at one of the message boards. > > > Sue O'Donnell <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello SF list, > > I'm thinking of subscribing to ancestry.com. I assume that others on this > list are subscribed to it as well. Does anyone have any thoughts and > interactions with ancestry.com to share ? > > Someone called me the other day from ancestry.com and I think they had > already looked at my file(s) I have stored on their site given what the > person said to me. I have also noted that there are a lot of mistakes on > the census records they have transcribed which makes them rather useless > unless you actually pull the full record up and read the whole thing. > > Being a large portion of my tree is guess work, I don't care to make it > public, that is for certain. How safe is my information? > > I'd appreciate any feedback before I make a commitments. I've heard in the > past that getting rid of them one you have decided you've had enough of > their service can be difficult (?). Is this still the case? > > Many thanks in advance, > > Sue > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Spaces is here! It's easy to create your own personal Web site. > http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ========================== > Mary Thiele Fobian > Genealogical & Historical Research > Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:08:40 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thank you, Judie--I will try using just his last name to get his military > records --a great suggestion. Kathy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:21:25 -0400 > From: Judie Cook <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Good luck!!! > > > On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Thank you, Judie--I will try using just his last name to get his > > military > > records --a great suggestion. Kathy > > ************************** > > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:17:48 -0700 > From: "Shelley Cardiel" <[email protected]> > Subject: [CASANFRA] DYER - MILLAR Family Photographs and BLAUER Bible > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've "rescued" a group of items belonging to the BLAUER, DYER, and MILLAR > Family including the following: > > > > * W. Johann BLAUER Family Bible (written in old script and a foreign > language, probably German which is nearly impossible to read) imprint on > front cover and inside script Johannes BLAUER and date 1864 includes a > photograph of three young men > > o Family Information > > o Christian BLAUER born 1805 > > o Elisebeth INVERMUHLE born 1813 > > o Children: > > o Christian Gottlieb BLAUER born 1835 > > o Anna Elisebeth BLAUER born 1837 > > o Carl Gottfried BLAUER born 1838 > > o John Friedrich BLAUER born 1839 > > o Johann Albrecht BLAUER born 1841 > > o Marie Rosina Elisabeth BLAUER born 1843 and died 1849 > > o Abraham Puroff BLAUER born 1844 > > o Johann Wilhelm BLAUER born 1845 > > o Maria Magdalena BLAUER born 1847 > > o Anna Margritha BLAUER born 1849 and died 1849 > > o Robert Wilhelm BLAUER born 1850 and died 1862 > > o Emma Rosina BLAUER born 1852 and died 1853 > > o Anna Margaretha BLAUER born 1854 > > o Roselie Wilhelmina BLAUER born 1855 > > > > * BLAUER Family Hymn book dated 1826 > > * Photograph of Margaret "Maggie" DYER MILLAR, taken at the New York > Gallery in San Francisco, CA, 1860's or 1870's, girl of about 6 years > > * Margaret DYER, taken at the Anderson Studio in San Francisco, > 1880's, woman in her teens, two copies of this same photograph one notes age > as 15 years, dated 1875, and notes that she is also "Grandma MILLAR" > > * Unidentified Woman, taken at the Burnett & Slattery Studio in San > Francisco, 1880's, woman in her 20's or 30's > > * Margaret DYER, taken at the Taber Studio in San Francisco, dated 31 > Dec 1881, woman in her 20's > > * Margaret DYER MILLAR and daughter Etoile Ann MILLAR BLAUER, taken > at the F. O. Staussler Studio in Oakland, CA, 1900's, woman in her 40's and > child of about 8-10 years, note "John M. BLAUER's Mother and Grandmother" > > * Margaret DYER MILLAR, taken at the Sunbeam Studio in Austin, NV, > 1880's, woman in her teens or 20's, note "born Independence, Missouri 9 Oct > 1860, died 17 Jul 1941, married George E. MILLAR" > > * Margaret DYER MILLAR, taken at the Dames & Hayes Studio in San > Francisco, CA, 1870's, teens > > * Letter from the Whitehouse, addressed to Mrs. Margaret DYER MILLAR > at 883 39th Ave, San Francisco, CA, dated Dec 1840, signed by Stephen Early, > Sec to Pres, thanking her for her letter to the President > > * Postcard of Chicago Central Depot, sent to Mrs. Emma BLAUER at 361 > Vine Street, San Jose, CA in 1909 by M. SIEBER > > * Postcard of Mont St-Michel, sent to Walter M. BLAUER at 883 39th > Ave, San Francisco, CA in what appears to be 1950 from Emma who was > traveling and staying at the place shown in the photograph > > > > Based on limited research I believe that Margaret DYER was the daughter of > William F. or S. & Julia DYER. The family can be located in various census > records as follows: > > > > 1860 census of Independence, MO: > > > > William F. DYER, age 38, a Merchant, born in VA > > Julia DYER, age 33, born in KY > > William B. DYER, age 13, born in MO > > Harry F. DYER, age 11, born in MO > > Charles A. DYER, age 9, born in MO > > Mary L. DYER, age 4, born in MO > > > > 1880 census of Austin City, NV > > > > William S. DYER, age 58, born VA, a Grocery Merchant, parents born VA > > Julia A. DYER, wife, age 54, born KY, Keeping House, parents born KY > > Henry F. DYER, son, age 31, born MO, a Telegraph Operator, > > Margret E. DYER, dau, age 19, born MO > > Jane E. DYER, dau, age 17, born UT, at School > > > > 1920 census of San Francisco, CA > > > > Margaret MILLAR, age 58, a widow, born MO, parents born VA/KY, a Boarding > Housewife > > Eloile HARRIS, dau, age 21, married, born NV, parents born Canada/MO > > Margaret HARRIS, granddau, age 3 months, born CA, parents born NY/NV > > Charles HARRIS, boarder, age 38, born NY, parents born NY/KY, a Broker > > Wilber WALKER, boarder, age 19, born CA, parents born CA/OH, a Drug Store > Clerk > > George WEAVER, boarder, age 42, born OR, parents born PA/ME, a Lawyer > > ? BLANK, boarder, age 35, born CA, parents born Switzerland, a Watchmaker > > > > I also was able to find record of Walter M. BLAUER b. 29 June 1886 in CA, > Mother's maiden name was LOGETER and he died in San Francisco on 2 Jan 1959. > Also find record of Emma E. BLAUER b. 14 Oct 1881 in CA, Mother's maiden > name is listed as LAAGER and she died 9 July 1964 in Santa Clara County, CA. > Etoile BLAUER was born 13 Jan 1888 and died in San Francisco, CA in January > 1973. > > > > I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that these wonderful old > treasures can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of > this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. > > > > Thanks, > > Shelley > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:37:53 -0700 > From: Yvonne Bowers <[email protected]> > Subject: [CASANFRA] NORCAL Genealogy Index > To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected][10.0.1.2]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > The NORCAL Genealogy Index created by our own Ken Tessendorff before > 1996 and adopted by me at that time has now moved and become part of > the wonderful San Francisco Genealogy web site hosted by Pamela Storm > Wolfskill and Ron Filion - both staunch members of NORCAL. There is > an updated link in the NORCAL Library however the new URL is: > > NORCAL Genealogy Resource Center > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/norcal/resourcecenter/toc.htm > > Please visit and remind yourself of the excellent information and > hard work contributed by Ken, Sandra Harris, Dan Mosier, Jim Smith > and many others. > > > -- > Yvonne Bowers, Sonoma, CA. > Listmom, WebMom > NORCAL, SOCAL, CA-CORNISH > NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CASANFRA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CASANFRA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 18 > *************************************** >
I have to agree, I don't like the changes. I liked the old way, where you looked up a name and could see what databases were connected. Then if you say that you want an exact search, everything from then on for all names is listed as exact. PLEASE Ancestry bring back the old way. They tried this once before. Pat Morano > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2006/09/05 Tue AM 03:08:21 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 18 > > > > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ancestry.com feedback (Donna Madrid) > 2. Re: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 ([email protected]) > 3. Re: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 (Judie Cook) > 4. DYER - MILLAR Family Photographs and BLAUER Bible > (Shelley Cardiel) > 5. NORCAL Genealogy Index (Yvonne Bowers) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:09:36 -0700 > From: "Donna Madrid" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] ancestry.com feedback > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I agree with Ancestry's changes in the search template......not very good at > all! Aside from that I love the site! > > Donna Fremont, CA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Thiele Fobian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:40 PM > Subject: [CASANFRA] ancestry.com feedback > > > Hi, Sue. > > I rely heavily on ancestry for both my personal and professional research. > I don't pay much attention to the trees posted there by other users (because > I can't depend on the information being accurate/documented), but I do use > the source materials (censuses, historical newspapers, WWI draft cards, > etc., etc.) all day long every working day of my life. I also subscribe to > genealogy.com, and it is useless by comparison. As far as I'm concerned, > ancestry is worth every penny. > > Having said that, it's also true that ancestry.com is currently > overhauling their organization of data and I am NOT pleased with the changes > in their search template. I hope that the change is temporary. > > I don't post any family tree information at ancestry.com. I maintain all > of my own and my clients' records in Family Tree Maker databases on my own > computer. I don't want to proliferate any of my unproven guesses. > Occasionally I'll privatize one of my own files, generate a descendant > report, and post the information at one of the message boards. > > > Sue O'Donnell <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello SF list, > > I'm thinking of subscribing to ancestry.com. I assume that others on this > list are subscribed to it as well. Does anyone have any thoughts and > interactions with ancestry.com to share ? > > Someone called me the other day from ancestry.com and I think they had > already looked at my file(s) I have stored on their site given what the > person said to me. I have also noted that there are a lot of mistakes on > the census records they have transcribed which makes them rather useless > unless you actually pull the full record up and read the whole thing. > > Being a large portion of my tree is guess work, I don't care to make it > public, that is for certain. How safe is my information? > > I'd appreciate any feedback before I make a commitments. I've heard in the > past that getting rid of them one you have decided you've had enough of > their service can be difficult (?). Is this still the case? > > Many thanks in advance, > > Sue > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Spaces is here! It's easy to create your own personal Web site. > http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ========================== > Mary Thiele Fobian > Genealogical & Historical Research > Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:08:40 EDT > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thank you, Judie--I will try using just his last name to get his military > records --a great suggestion. Kathy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:21:25 -0400 > From: Judie Cook <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Good luck!!! > > > On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Thank you, Judie--I will try using just his last name to get his > > military > > records --a great suggestion. Kathy > > ************************** > > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:17:48 -0700 > From: "Shelley Cardiel" <[email protected]> > Subject: [CASANFRA] DYER - MILLAR Family Photographs and BLAUER Bible > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've "rescued" a group of items belonging to the BLAUER, DYER, and MILLAR > Family including the following: > > > > * W. Johann BLAUER Family Bible (written in old script and a foreign > language, probably German which is nearly impossible to read) imprint on > front cover and inside script Johannes BLAUER and date 1864 includes a > photograph of three young men > > o Family Information > > o Christian BLAUER born 1805 > > o Elisebeth INVERMUHLE born 1813 > > o Children: > > o Christian Gottlieb BLAUER born 1835 > > o Anna Elisebeth BLAUER born 1837 > > o Carl Gottfried BLAUER born 1838 > > o John Friedrich BLAUER born 1839 > > o Johann Albrecht BLAUER born 1841 > > o Marie Rosina Elisabeth BLAUER born 1843 and died 1849 > > o Abraham Puroff BLAUER born 1844 > > o Johann Wilhelm BLAUER born 1845 > > o Maria Magdalena BLAUER born 1847 > > o Anna Margritha BLAUER born 1849 and died 1849 > > o Robert Wilhelm BLAUER born 1850 and died 1862 > > o Emma Rosina BLAUER born 1852 and died 1853 > > o Anna Margaretha BLAUER born 1854 > > o Roselie Wilhelmina BLAUER born 1855 > > > > * BLAUER Family Hymn book dated 1826 > > * Photograph of Margaret "Maggie" DYER MILLAR, taken at the New York > Gallery in San Francisco, CA, 1860's or 1870's, girl of about 6 years > > * Margaret DYER, taken at the Anderson Studio in San Francisco, > 1880's, woman in her teens, two copies of this same photograph one notes age > as 15 years, dated 1875, and notes that she is also "Grandma MILLAR" > > * Unidentified Woman, taken at the Burnett & Slattery Studio in San > Francisco, 1880's, woman in her 20's or 30's > > * Margaret DYER, taken at the Taber Studio in San Francisco, dated 31 > Dec 1881, woman in her 20's > > * Margaret DYER MILLAR and daughter Etoile Ann MILLAR BLAUER, taken > at the F. O. Staussler Studio in Oakland, CA, 1900's, woman in her 40's and > child of about 8-10 years, note "John M. BLAUER's Mother and Grandmother" > > * Margaret DYER MILLAR, taken at the Sunbeam Studio in Austin, NV, > 1880's, woman in her teens or 20's, note "born Independence, Missouri 9 Oct > 1860, died 17 Jul 1941, married George E. MILLAR" > > * Margaret DYER MILLAR, taken at the Dames & Hayes Studio in San > Francisco, CA, 1870's, teens > > * Letter from the Whitehouse, addressed to Mrs. Margaret DYER MILLAR > at 883 39th Ave, San Francisco, CA, dated Dec 1840, signed by Stephen Early, > Sec to Pres, thanking her for her letter to the President > > * Postcard of Chicago Central Depot, sent to Mrs. Emma BLAUER at 361 > Vine Street, San Jose, CA in 1909 by M. SIEBER > > * Postcard of Mont St-Michel, sent to Walter M. BLAUER at 883 39th > Ave, San Francisco, CA in what appears to be 1950 from Emma who was > traveling and staying at the place shown in the photograph > > > > Based on limited research I believe that Margaret DYER was the daughter of > William F. or S. & Julia DYER. The family can be located in various census > records as follows: > > > > 1860 census of Independence, MO: > > > > William F. DYER, age 38, a Merchant, born in VA > > Julia DYER, age 33, born in KY > > William B. DYER, age 13, born in MO > > Harry F. DYER, age 11, born in MO > > Charles A. DYER, age 9, born in MO > > Mary L. DYER, age 4, born in MO > > > > 1880 census of Austin City, NV > > > > William S. DYER, age 58, born VA, a Grocery Merchant, parents born VA > > Julia A. DYER, wife, age 54, born KY, Keeping House, parents born KY > > Henry F. DYER, son, age 31, born MO, a Telegraph Operator, > > Margret E. DYER, dau, age 19, born MO > > Jane E. DYER, dau, age 17, born UT, at School > > > > 1920 census of San Francisco, CA > > > > Margaret MILLAR, age 58, a widow, born MO, parents born VA/KY, a Boarding > Housewife > > Eloile HARRIS, dau, age 21, married, born NV, parents born Canada/MO > > Margaret HARRIS, granddau, age 3 months, born CA, parents born NY/NV > > Charles HARRIS, boarder, age 38, born NY, parents born NY/KY, a Broker > > Wilber WALKER, boarder, age 19, born CA, parents born CA/OH, a Drug Store > Clerk > > George WEAVER, boarder, age 42, born OR, parents born PA/ME, a Lawyer > > ? BLANK, boarder, age 35, born CA, parents born Switzerland, a Watchmaker > > > > I also was able to find record of Walter M. BLAUER b. 29 June 1886 in CA, > Mother's maiden name was LOGETER and he died in San Francisco on 2 Jan 1959. > Also find record of Emma E. BLAUER b. 14 Oct 1881 in CA, Mother's maiden > name is listed as LAAGER and she died 9 July 1964 in Santa Clara County, CA. > Etoile BLAUER was born 13 Jan 1888 and died in San Francisco, CA in January > 1973. > > > > I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that these wonderful old > treasures can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of > this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. > > > > Thanks, > > Shelley > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:37:53 -0700 > From: Yvonne Bowers <[email protected]> > Subject: [CASANFRA] NORCAL Genealogy Index > To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected][10.0.1.2]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > The NORCAL Genealogy Index created by our own Ken Tessendorff before > 1996 and adopted by me at that time has now moved and become part of > the wonderful San Francisco Genealogy web site hosted by Pamela Storm > Wolfskill and Ron Filion - both staunch members of NORCAL. There is > an updated link in the NORCAL Library however the new URL is: > > NORCAL Genealogy Resource Center > > http://www.sfgenealogy.com/norcal/resourcecenter/toc.htm > > Please visit and remind yourself of the excellent information and > hard work contributed by Ken, Sandra Harris, Dan Mosier, Jim Smith > and many others. > > > -- > Yvonne Bowers, Sonoma, CA. > Listmom, WebMom > NORCAL, SOCAL, CA-CORNISH > NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CASANFRA list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the CASANFRA mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 18 > *************************************** >
Patricia, ancestry's "new" advanced search is now available in beta: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/advanced.aspx [email protected] wrote: I have to agree, I don't like the changes. I liked the old way, where you looked up a name and could see what databases were connected. Then if you say that you want an exact search, everything from then on for all names is listed as exact. PLEASE Ancestry bring back the old way. They tried this once before. Pat Morano > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2006/09/05 Tue AM 03:08:21 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: CASANFRA Digest, Vol 1, Issue 18 > > > > ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California
Passing this on. It's on topic and worth promoting. ...and yes, I did sign the petition. Kay - thanks for bringing this up. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Kay Speaks [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:48 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [L-AGS] L-AGS: Subject: Petition - NARA Research Room Hours of Access (deadlineSeptember 8) Hello, Researching at Washington DC NARA is a very special privilege. The new hours of accessibility limits, or eliminates, the use of NARA by many genealogists who research after they get off work or on weekends. Please take the time to respond as requested below. Your silence is a response indicating agreement to these new limited hours of operation! We need your voice to be heard! Deadline for responses is September 8. When I planned my first trip to the National Archives in Washington DC last year, I did so knowing I could use Saturday and weekday evenings to extend my research time at NARA. It allowed me to take a small bit of time to enjoy the rest of the DC area and the Cherry Blossom Festival. I thought, so this is what my tax dollars helps to provide -- the ability for people all over the world, especially Americans, the freedom to enjoy our national monuments, learn of our history and research our ancestors -- and its all free! Your vote really does count. Help keep access to NARA open to the working class who research in the evenings and weekends. Kay Speaks L-AGS Study Group -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following message was distributed to those attending last week's Federation of Genealogical Societies in Boston. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Conference Attendee: We were honored to have Dr. Allen Weinstein, Archivist of the United States attend the FGS/NEHGS 2006 Conference in Boston and to address us in the Opening Session on Thursday, August 31, 2006. Following his remarks, he was presented with a letter by the Chair of the Records Preservation and Access Committee (RPAC) addressing concerns about the proposed changes in the hours of operation for the Research Rooms at the National Archives. It has come to our attention that very few of our constituencies are making their voices heard on this issue. This lack of response sends a loud signal to the Archives that this is not a serious issue and that closing the Archives on evenings and Saturdays is irrelevant. The RPAC has recommended the following suggestions for the Archives to consider: 1) To accommodate the needs of those who need access on Saturdays, we propose that you close one other day per week. This would be at your discretion. Other archives often close Sunday and Monday. 2) Users who need evening hour access could be accommodated by opening the archives later in the day, again at your discretion. If you agree with the recommendations stated above, we are asking your support by immediately going on-line and adding your "signature" to our petition to substitute the hours of access and still help the archives to meet their need to consolidate their hours of operation. Before 8 September 2006, please go to: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/FGS2006/petition.html (Case sensitive) If you would like to send your own personal letter, send it prior to 8 September 2006 and address it to: Regulations Comments Desk (NPOL) Room 4100, Policy and Planning Staff National Archives and Records Administration 8601 Adelphi Road College Park, MD 20740-6001 -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>
The NORCAL Genealogy Index created by our own Ken Tessendorff before 1996 and adopted by me at that time has now moved and become part of the wonderful San Francisco Genealogy web site hosted by Pamela Storm Wolfskill and Ron Filion - both staunch members of NORCAL. There is an updated link in the NORCAL Library however the new URL is: NORCAL Genealogy Resource Center http://www.sfgenealogy.com/norcal/resourcecenter/toc.htm Please visit and remind yourself of the excellent information and hard work contributed by Ken, Sandra Harris, Dan Mosier, Jim Smith and many others. -- Yvonne Bowers, Sonoma, CA. Listmom, WebMom NORCAL, SOCAL, CA-CORNISH NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html
Good luck!!! On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:08 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Thank you, Judie--I will try using just his last name to get his > military > records --a great suggestion. Kathy > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you, Judie--I will try using just his last name to get his military records --a great suggestion. Kathy
I've "rescued" a group of items belonging to the BLAUER, DYER, and MILLAR Family including the following: * W. Johann BLAUER Family Bible (written in old script and a foreign language, probably German which is nearly impossible to read) imprint on front cover and inside script Johannes BLAUER and date 1864 includes a photograph of three young men o Family Information o Christian BLAUER born 1805 o Elisebeth INVERMUHLE born 1813 o Children: o Christian Gottlieb BLAUER born 1835 o Anna Elisebeth BLAUER born 1837 o Carl Gottfried BLAUER born 1838 o John Friedrich BLAUER born 1839 o Johann Albrecht BLAUER born 1841 o Marie Rosina Elisabeth BLAUER born 1843 and died 1849 o Abraham Puroff BLAUER born 1844 o Johann Wilhelm BLAUER born 1845 o Maria Magdalena BLAUER born 1847 o Anna Margritha BLAUER born 1849 and died 1849 o Robert Wilhelm BLAUER born 1850 and died 1862 o Emma Rosina BLAUER born 1852 and died 1853 o Anna Margaretha BLAUER born 1854 o Roselie Wilhelmina BLAUER born 1855 * BLAUER Family Hymn book dated 1826 * Photograph of Margaret "Maggie" DYER MILLAR, taken at the New York Gallery in San Francisco, CA, 1860's or 1870's, girl of about 6 years * Margaret DYER, taken at the Anderson Studio in San Francisco, 1880's, woman in her teens, two copies of this same photograph one notes age as 15 years, dated 1875, and notes that she is also "Grandma MILLAR" * Unidentified Woman, taken at the Burnett & Slattery Studio in San Francisco, 1880's, woman in her 20's or 30's * Margaret DYER, taken at the Taber Studio in San Francisco, dated 31 Dec 1881, woman in her 20's * Margaret DYER MILLAR and daughter Etoile Ann MILLAR BLAUER, taken at the F. O. Staussler Studio in Oakland, CA, 1900's, woman in her 40's and child of about 8-10 years, note "John M. BLAUER's Mother and Grandmother" * Margaret DYER MILLAR, taken at the Sunbeam Studio in Austin, NV, 1880's, woman in her teens or 20's, note "born Independence, Missouri 9 Oct 1860, died 17 Jul 1941, married George E. MILLAR" * Margaret DYER MILLAR, taken at the Dames & Hayes Studio in San Francisco, CA, 1870's, teens * Letter from the Whitehouse, addressed to Mrs. Margaret DYER MILLAR at 883 39th Ave, San Francisco, CA, dated Dec 1840, signed by Stephen Early, Sec to Pres, thanking her for her letter to the President * Postcard of Chicago Central Depot, sent to Mrs. Emma BLAUER at 361 Vine Street, San Jose, CA in 1909 by M. SIEBER * Postcard of Mont St-Michel, sent to Walter M. BLAUER at 883 39th Ave, San Francisco, CA in what appears to be 1950 from Emma who was traveling and staying at the place shown in the photograph Based on limited research I believe that Margaret DYER was the daughter of William F. or S. & Julia DYER. The family can be located in various census records as follows: 1860 census of Independence, MO: William F. DYER, age 38, a Merchant, born in VA Julia DYER, age 33, born in KY William B. DYER, age 13, born in MO Harry F. DYER, age 11, born in MO Charles A. DYER, age 9, born in MO Mary L. DYER, age 4, born in MO 1880 census of Austin City, NV William S. DYER, age 58, born VA, a Grocery Merchant, parents born VA Julia A. DYER, wife, age 54, born KY, Keeping House, parents born KY Henry F. DYER, son, age 31, born MO, a Telegraph Operator, Margret E. DYER, dau, age 19, born MO Jane E. DYER, dau, age 17, born UT, at School 1920 census of San Francisco, CA Margaret MILLAR, age 58, a widow, born MO, parents born VA/KY, a Boarding Housewife Eloile HARRIS, dau, age 21, married, born NV, parents born Canada/MO Margaret HARRIS, granddau, age 3 months, born CA, parents born NY/NV Charles HARRIS, boarder, age 38, born NY, parents born NY/KY, a Broker Wilber WALKER, boarder, age 19, born CA, parents born CA/OH, a Drug Store Clerk George WEAVER, boarder, age 42, born OR, parents born PA/ME, a Lawyer ? BLANK, boarder, age 35, born CA, parents born Switzerland, a Watchmaker I also was able to find record of Walter M. BLAUER b. 29 June 1886 in CA, Mother's maiden name was LOGETER and he died in San Francisco on 2 Jan 1959. Also find record of Emma E. BLAUER b. 14 Oct 1881 in CA, Mother's maiden name is listed as LAAGER and she died 9 July 1964 in Santa Clara County, CA. Etoile BLAUER was born 13 Jan 1888 and died in San Francisco, CA in January 1973. I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that these wonderful old treasures can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley
Try a different spelling of his name...or, if he had a first and middle name, try switching them...or...try just the last name! He's there...you just have to find him!! Good luck Judie On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:13 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Can anybody tell me why a person would be listed in the Northern > California > Index of Civil War Soldiers (inclduing company and division) and > then not > have a military record of some kind at the National Archives? Kathy > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Can anybody tell me why a person would be listed in the Northern California Index of Civil War Soldiers (inclduing company and division) and then not have a military record of some kind at the National Archives? Kathy
Sue, if you go to the library and use their microfilm readers to view the census records, this saves that problem. These are the exact same pages you would see on the micro film only better in my opinion. I have only found about 10 or 20 that I had to view the actual census to read what it said. The plus, you do all this in the privacy of you own home, while traveling, just about anywhere you can get a connection...really. The indexes are, as stated earlier, not prefect, but once you learn what to do, like the "wildcard" or I like to call the back door search. When all else fails and I just cant seem to find the person I am looking for, I will type in only his first name, and look at all of them in the county they last resided in, then go out from there. I have found a bunch of my relatives that way and still finding some. The WW I draft card index is great. I do not subscribe to the Europe or over seas databases yet, but get FULL use out of the USA data. I use the trees for my benefit too, just to get leads. Many moons ago I submitted to both ancestry.com and family tree maker, and they use that data for their benefit. I now wish I hadn't submitted it, due to the numerous errors that I have found since uploading. But these errors only caused me to dig deeper and found the truth. I get kind of tired of their BS sometimes, but do keep on using them. The changes they have made to searching is not better, but I can live with them for now, their family tree searches are what I hate since they put to many matches down that aren't even what you are searching for....they have taken work and pooled it together, this too I live with. I think you would like what you get if you do a lot in the census, etc. GO for it and let us know how it goes for you later on. John
I agree with Ancestry's changes in the search template......not very good at all! Aside from that I love the site! Donna Fremont, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Thiele Fobian" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: [CASANFRA] ancestry.com feedback Hi, Sue. I rely heavily on ancestry for both my personal and professional research. I don't pay much attention to the trees posted there by other users (because I can't depend on the information being accurate/documented), but I do use the source materials (censuses, historical newspapers, WWI draft cards, etc., etc.) all day long every working day of my life. I also subscribe to genealogy.com, and it is useless by comparison. As far as I'm concerned, ancestry is worth every penny. Having said that, it's also true that ancestry.com is currently overhauling their organization of data and I am NOT pleased with the changes in their search template. I hope that the change is temporary. I don't post any family tree information at ancestry.com. I maintain all of my own and my clients' records in Family Tree Maker databases on my own computer. I don't want to proliferate any of my unproven guesses. Occasionally I'll privatize one of my own files, generate a descendant report, and post the information at one of the message boards. Sue O'Donnell <[email protected]> wrote: Hello SF list, I'm thinking of subscribing to ancestry.com. I assume that others on this list are subscribed to it as well. Does anyone have any thoughts and interactions with ancestry.com to share ? Someone called me the other day from ancestry.com and I think they had already looked at my file(s) I have stored on their site given what the person said to me. I have also noted that there are a lot of mistakes on the census records they have transcribed which makes them rather useless unless you actually pull the full record up and read the whole thing. Being a large portion of my tree is guess work, I don't care to make it public, that is for certain. How safe is my information? I'd appreciate any feedback before I make a commitments. I've heard in the past that getting rid of them one you have decided you've had enough of their service can be difficult (?). Is this still the case? Many thanks in advance, Sue _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces is here! It's easy to create your own personal Web site. http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just a note. The database does not end at 1930. From the web site description.. "...Many counties for those same states have been extracted into the 1930's and some, much later.... " MeLani --The site says it has marriages to 1930. I entered my name --and it popped up --with my first marriage in 1963.
In a message dated 9/4/2006 12:38:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Sue O'Donnell wrote: > Hello SF list, > > I'm thinking of subscribing to ancestry.com. I assume that others on > this list are subscribed to it as well. Does anyone have any thoughts > and interactions with ancestry.com to share ? > > Someone called me the other day from ancestry.com and I think they had > already looked at my file(s) I have stored on their site given what > the person said to me. I have also noted that there are a lot of > mistakes on the census records they have transcribed which makes them > rather useless unless you actually pull the full record up and read > the whole thing. > > Being a large portion of my tree is guess work, I don't care to make > it public, that is for certain. How safe is my information? > > I'd appreciate any feedback before I make a commitments. I've heard > in the past that getting rid of them one you have decided you've had > enough of their service can be difficult (?). Is this still the case? > > Many thanks in advance, > > Sue > > ___________________________________ Sue, I have had Ancestry for a number of years, and it had an incredible amount of good stuff on it. I currently have the local history part only,and the new format is very un user friendly for this grandmother. I will probably renew to full access if they change the format. Transcription errors on the census are a reality. Also original errors by the people taking the census, and our ancestors too... dates and birth places do 'wiggle' a lot in some searches. Do not despair! There are great amounts of data avail. in local history books about the people who built our country- I am finding a number of mine are there. The World tree project is not good. It is important to be able to get good sources. The Ancestry world tree can give you some hints in how, where, and when to search. You can also locate the people who may have spent years seeking what you are just starting to look for. Most of them are dears, and gladly share information, as they are pleased to find another person in their groups too. Sharing information and posting it to Ancestry is iffy. Once incorrect data is out there it is difficult to impossible to 'fix'. Never forget, there is a great deal avail. now in free searches. Some states and counties have also got census records. If you are just starting out, you will probably learn VAST amounts on Ancestry. If you are using the TFM2006 etc and want to do the internet searches from there, you should have Ancestry. Good Luck!! Susan S
No longer hard to leave AOL. Their services are now FREE!!!! On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:26 AM, [email protected] wrote: > I LOVE my subscription to ancestry.com. I appreciate the breadth of > materials they have. I find the census transcriptions very > accurate, and they give > us the option to correct the transcription errors we find. In all my > conversations with genealogy friends I've never heard anyone say it > was hard to > leave ancestry.com...hard to leave AOL, yes! > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
I just noticed this morning that the "new" Advanced Search template is available at ancestry. This is a modified version of the more comprehensive search template formerly available before recent "improvements." We are once again able to enter jursidictions (state, county, town) and KEYWORDS, which I have always found so useful. Remember to try those wildcards! The URL for the Advanced Search template is http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/advanced.aspx ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California
I note that Susan's original query about ancestry.com, and several of the responses, refer to errors in ancestry.com's census "transcriptions." Just to be clear for those who don't have ancestry and who are thinking about subscribing: ancestry.com does NOT feature census transcriptions; portions of the data are INDEXED. And yes, the indexed data has a fair degree of error in terms of the spelling of people's names in particular. Yes, there are errors. Anyone who has looked at a lot of census pages will understand why. Far too often the enumerators did not have particularly good penmanship skills. ancestry.com's saving grace in regard to census indexing errors is that their search template allows the use of an asterisk as a "wild card." If you are searching for Berman, for example, you can enter BERM*N to catch all instances of Berman, Bermann, Bermman, Bermann, Bermen, Bermon, Bermun, etc. Three alpha characters do have to be provided before wild cards can indicated in the search term (e.g., BER* can be used, but B*RMAN can not be used). ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California