Thanks for the link to the Google News Archive. I finally found a clue as to when Grace White may have married John F. Sperisen, Jr. I knew it was sometime in or before September 1936, because she was using Sperisen on her SS Appl. So now I have a date of around 29 Aug 1935 as the date of marriage license application in the Oakland Trib. I have been looking for years for this info. I still don't know when or where they married, but probably by a J.P. in SF or Oakland. By the way, does anyone know where Lencin St. might be? Oakland or SF? John lived in SF. Haven't been able to find Grace White anywhere. Thanks, "rwalker"

I am curious to whether any school records are available for the San Francisco City School District between 1920-1930. I am trying to locate records on my grandmother, Thelma Ferne Perry, b. 17 July 1906, Auburn ME. Parents Anthony D. Perry and Dora/Dorothy Etta Perry. Per the 1920 census they lived at 1635 Pierce St. SF, Thelma age 14. I am also seeking school records of Clifford Anthony Begnal, b. 28 May 1923, SF, for the years 1928-1930, this is Thelma's son. The father Clifford Franklin Begnal, b. 13 Mar 1903, Utica NY. And lastly, school records of Clifford Franklin Begnal, b. 13 Mar 1903, Utica NY. Per the 1910 census, he was living with his mother Elizabeth (O'Shaughnessy) Begnal in Seattle, WA, and could of moved to San Francisco after 1910 and anytime before 1920. Clifford Franklin Begnal was 7/8 in 1910, 16 in 1920 per the census. In 1920 Clifford and his mother were living at 3554 A, 20th St. SF. My Begnal lineage with documents and pictures is at - http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/begnal.html My Perry (Pereira Cardoso) lineage is at - http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/cardoso.html Thank you for any information and assistance......Doc -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Genealogy Assistance - 13 years researching online http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html Begnal-Blaschko/Blaszko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Serving the Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT

Hi Pat... In the area of Haight and/or Belvedere, the most likely all girls school would have been Presentation High (or "Prez" as we called it) on the corner of Turk & Masonic. The next closest to that area would have been St. Vincent's High which was on the corner of Geary & Gough (site of the current St. Mary's Cathedral). I know that the University of San Francisco bought the Presentation building in the early 1990s so I'm not sure where their records would be located. St. Vincent's High was torn down in 1966 & a new school was built a block away (Cathedral High) so that would be the likely place to search for records from that school. As I understand it, both of these schools were operational in the years you mentioned. Best of luck... Linda My mother attended grade school in San Francisco in the late 1890's and early 1900's. The family lived on either Haight Street or on Belvedere. I also understand that she attended an all girls Catholic High School. I'm wondering how I can locate these schools and does any one know if those records still exist, for those that attended. I have some pictures in grade school but none when she would have attended high school. She would have graduated from high school about 1916 or 1917. Thank you Pat

There is a grammar school at Waller and Masonic I want to say was named Delmar. Kids who lived in the Haight and Belvedere area would have attended there. There was also an all girls catholic high school at Frederick and Ashbury. I want to say it was St. Agnes but I'm not sure. Too long ago............ Armendine >Pat Crimmel <[email protected]> wrote: My mother attended grade school in San Francisco in the late 1890's and early 1900's. The family lived on either Haight Street or on Belvedere. I also understand that she attended an all girls Catholic High School. I'm wondering how I can locate these schools and does any one know if those records still exist, for those that attended. I have some pictures in grade school but none when she would have attended high school. She would have graduated from high school about 1916 or 1917. Thank you Pat ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Almost two years ago, I completed a 45-minute documentary entitled A Second Final Rest: The History of San Francisco's Lost Cemeteries. The film has shown in several venues in San Francisco and also won an award at the Arizona International Film Festival, and is now available, with one other short film of mine, on DVD! For more information and to purchase the DVD, please go to www.trinalopez.com. You can also purchase the DVD by clicking on the "Buy DVD" tab on the website. I am also interested in showing this film in more public screenings. If you are interested in hosting a screening or know someone who is, please e-mail me at [email protected] for more information. Many thanks for your support. Pass the word along! Trina Lopez Director, A Second Final Rest: The History of San Francisco's Lost Cemeteries

At 09:02 AM 9/7/2006, Pat wrote: >I would like to know the answer also. I have scads (hundreds) of sheets >from old (1870-1940+) obits and could make them available also. Pat > >Linda Emerson <[email protected]> wrote: I recently ordered three >obituaries from the S.F. Library and see that they >are now sending full images of the entire obit page rather than just the >single obituary. I have obituaries for several names on the following dates >but am unsure as to how to best post the information: > >January 7, 1930 >February 4, 1937 >November 16, 1977 > >Ron or Pam... should I just post the names to the list & see if anyone >responds? Linda and Pat, Well, as hopefully everyone knows, we have a nice little obituary collection at sfgenealogy: http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/vitals/sfranobi.htm There is a submission form there if you want to do a few at a time. For larger collections, you can submit them directly to me. But, please feel free to post them here, too. Just remember to give us permission to copy them please. :-) Here's the preferred format: "BADER--In this city, May 30, Bridget, beloved wife of William BADER, and sister of the late Mrs. P. O'CONNOR, a native of County Galway, Ireland, aged 38 years. Friends and acquaintances are respectfully invited to attend the funeral to-morrow (Sunday), at 2 o'clock P.M. from her late residence, 635 Stevenson street. Interment, Mount Calvary Cemetery." Source: San Francisco Examiner, 31 May 1890, p. 7. Transcribed by Susan Cherry-Boyer. It's important to include as much source information as possible. The "transcribed by" portion is optional. :-) Thanks! Pam Pamela Storm Wolfskill [email protected] San Francisco Genealogy www.sfgenealogy.com San Mateo County Genealogy www.sfgenealogy.com/sanmateo/ Santa Clara County Genealogy www.sfgenealogy.com/santaclara/ San Francisco Bay Genealogy www.sfgenealogy.com/sfbay/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 9/7/2006

So far it is a good read and has pointed me in some directions I had not thought to look in :-) I would love to hear her speak. Hubby got it for me along w/some other authors book about lost landmarks... Which by the way Jim was an excellent book!!!! I finished reading it in about two days. Since my grandfather was born in San Francisco and mom spent her jr high and high school years there it was fun to read about places they had in all probability spent time at. Susan Boise, Idaho, USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of James R. Smith Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Cc: SF Genealogy Subject: Re: [NORCAL] Genealogists meeting Hi Elaine, That's Nancy Peterson. Her book is a gem for SF Genealogy and she's an excellent speaker. The event should be well worth the time. Jim Elaine Sturdevant wrote: >There's an article in the San Leandro Time about a meeting next week: > > The East Bay Genealogical Society will meet on Weds. 9/13 @ 10 a.m. in the Library Conference Room of the Family History Center, 4766 Lincoln Ave., Oakland. (That's at the Mormon Church) A guest speaker will discuss her book, "Raking The Ashes: Genealogical Strategies for Pre-1906 San Francisco Research." Guests welcome. > > I won't be able to attend but thought somebody else might be interested. > > Elaine

I know my father attended Sts. Peter and Paul HS. It consolidated with Sacred Heart HS. I'm wondering if ICA (Immaculate Conception Academy) might be the correct girl's HS. It was founded in 1883. Nancy Crowley <[email protected]> wrote: St. Peter's High School (in San Francisco's Mission District) served girls (and I believe young men too.) I believe St. Peter's Parish (on Alabama St.?) still has those records. St. Rose Academy was also open for more than 125 years, but closed after the 1989 earthquake. Any St. Rose records would be available through the Domican sisters in San Rafael. Hope this helps. Good luck! Pat Crimmel wrote: My mother attended grade school in San Francisco in the late 1890's and early 1900's. The family lived on either Haight Street or on Belvedere. I also understand that she attended an all girls Catholic High School. I'm wondering how I can locate these schools and does any one know if those records still exist, for those that attended. I have some pictures in grade school but none when she would have attended high school. She would have graduated from high school about 1916 or 1917. Thank you Pat ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St. Peter's High School (in San Francisco's Mission District) served girls (and I believe young men too.) I believe St. Peter's Parish (on Alabama St.?) still has those records. St. Rose Academy was also open for more than 125 years, but closed after the 1989 earthquake. Any St. Rose records would be available through the Domican sisters in San Rafael. Hope this helps. Good luck! Pat Crimmel <[email protected]> wrote: My mother attended grade school in San Francisco in the late 1890's and early 1900's. The family lived on either Haight Street or on Belvedere. I also understand that she attended an all girls Catholic High School. I'm wondering how I can locate these schools and does any one know if those records still exist, for those that attended. I have some pictures in grade school but none when she would have attended high school. She would have graduated from high school about 1916 or 1917. Thank you Pat ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

My mother attended grade school in San Francisco in the late 1890's and early 1900's. The family lived on either Haight Street or on Belvedere. I also understand that she attended an all girls Catholic High School. I'm wondering how I can locate these schools and does any one know if those records still exist, for those that attended. I have some pictures in grade school but none when she would have attended high school. She would have graduated from high school about 1916 or 1917. Thank you Pat

I have a grade school picture, taken in San Francisco. My mother was in this picture and I'm guessing she would have been 7 or 8 years old, which would have been in the late 1890's. I do not know the name of the school. My mother would have lived on either Haight Street or on Belvedere about that time. There are approximately 50 children in this photo and from the looks of the children some could be as old as 12 or 13. The picture is Sepia color, the children are either sitting on the ground, possibly some sitting on chairs and others could be standing on a structure in the back. There are 3 wooden walls around these kids. On the back of the photo is listed the names, but when the photo was pasted to a hard gray cardboard, lots of the names were cut off. I've listed below the names that I can read. If any of these children belong in your family or if you might think they would be in this picture, I would be glad to send a copy. Children are: John Butler, May Rawson, Ethel Brown, Donald Barleena, Hazel Naylon, ? Linstrom, Hazel Copp, Edith Dick, Germa Martina, Elese Golcher, Marion Mel, Jean Armstrong, Genovieve Martin, Gilmann Haynes, Joe McDonald, Leo Schlenger, Howard Shemp, Walter Stern, Paul McClauskey, Pearl Clow and Sadie Curtis. I'm sorry the other names have been cut from the picture. Pat

In a message dated 9/8/2006 12:34:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have subscription to NewspaperArchive and LOVE it. They had a special on price this last spring, and I took it for a year. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. I search for most of my people with " " around the key words. I have also had great success searching businesses etc. with family information. [ex. The National Ice and Cold Storage business in California was in our family from 1910 ish until after 1938. ] ENJOY! Susan I was so intrigued with the references I found on the Google News Archive that I subscribed to the newspaper archive service. I was able to access one article, went offline and wasn't able to get back on to the paid newspaper archive subscription service (the archive service didn't recognize my user name/password and the 800 number operates only until 5 central time.) I have to wait until tomorrow to resolve what is hopefully a technical difficulty, but buyer beware! Ron Filion <[email protected]> wrote: Google News Archive If you haven't seen this yet, go look at it: http://news.google.com/archivesearch

Have you tried UC Berkeley newspaper microfilm library? They have California newspapers way back (1860s for some), more Northern than Southern CA, and some from the rest of the US The library catalog is on-line, but there are microfilms for more dates than the catalog indicates, so if the paper you want is included it might be worth a look, even if the dates you want are not mentioned. On the other hand it might be faster to go to LA than find a parking place in Berkeley... Judy > Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:27:22 -0600 > From: "Helen O'Connor" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Google News Archive > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Yes, must be a good sight, but I wanted the LA paper back in the > 1890's. Bah, humbug, it doesn't go back that far. (looking for an > obit) Guess the only way to find an 1890's paper would be going to LA > and looking at microfilm if they have it. Hmm? > Helen O'Connor > > Ron Filion wrote:

This service has been operating for quite awhile. I first encountered it through Godfrey.org, and when my access through that evaporated, I finally subscribed to them directly. It's an excellent resource, and one to become more valuable done the line as it constantly adds more newspapers and gets bigger. Nancy, I hope you get your problem solved. >Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 17:14:28 -0700 (PDT) >From: Nancy Crowley <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [CASANFRA] Google News Archive >To: [email protected] > >I was so intrigued with the references I found on the Google News Archive that I subscribed to the newspaper archive service. I was able to access one article, went offline and wasn't able to get back on to the paid newspaper archive subscription service (the archive service didn't recognize my user name/password and the 800 number operates only until 5 central time.) I have to wait until tomorrow to resolve what is hopefully a technical difficulty, but buyer beware! > >Ron Filion <[email protected]> wrote: Google News Archive > >If you haven't seen this yet, go look at it: > >http://news.google.com/archivesearch > ><snipped>

Hi Elaine, That's Nancy Peterson. Her book is a gem for SF Genealogy and she's an excellent speaker. The event should be well worth the time. Jim Elaine Sturdevant wrote: >There's an article in the San Leandro Time about a meeting next week: > > The East Bay Genealogical Society will meet on Weds. 9/13 @ 10 a.m. in the Library Conference Room of the Family History Center, 4766 Lincoln Ave., Oakland. (That's at the Mormon Church) A guest speaker will discuss her book, "Raking The Ashes: Genealogical Strategies for Pre-1906 San Francisco Research." Guests welcome. > > I won't be able to attend but thought somebody else might be interested. > > Elaine > > > > >----------------------------------------- >Visit: >NORCAL LIBRARY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html >NORCAL Genealogy Resource Center http://www.sfgenealogy.com/norcal/resourcecenter/toc.htm >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- James R. Smith Author: San Francisco's Lost Landmarks ISBN: 1884995446 www.HistorySmith.com <http://www.historysmith.com/>

I will sure miss the HeritageQuest Online once this year's subscription is up! It's a shame that HQ removed it....I can't help but think "playing hard to get" is going to back fire on them somehow! Hope all is well... Judie On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Mary Thiele Fobian wrote: > I access NewspaperArchive through the Godfrey Memorial Library, > which is currently $35/year and provides access to many other > resources, as well. > > http://godfrey.org/ > > > Nancy Crowley <[email protected]> wrote: > I was so intrigued with the references I found on the Google News > Archive that I subscribed to the newspaper archive service. I was > able to access one article, went offline and wasn't able to get > back on to the paid newspaper archive subscription service (the > archive service didn't recognize my user name/password and the 800 > number operates only until 5 central time.) I have to wait until > tomorrow to resolve what is hopefully a technical difficulty, but > buyer beware! > > Ron Filion wrote: Google News Archive > > If you haven't seen this yet, go look at it: > > http://news.google.com/archivesearch > > They have included the indexes for newspapers that are from > ProQuest and Newspaperarchive.com, among many others. Some of the > California newspapers include the L.A. Times and Oakland Tribune. > > But, this search is entirely free! And, you will see a snippet of > the text. > > I find the best way to search is to put in the name you are looking > for plus the location, for example: > Filion San Francisco > > If you are looking for an exact name, remember to put it in quotes: > "Ron Filion" San Francisco > > Enjoy, > > Ron > > p.s. Please feel free to forward this message to other lists or > individuals. > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things > done faster. > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ========================== > Mary Thiele Fobian > Genealogical & Historical Research > Pacific Grove, California > > > > > > > > > > > ************************** > Visit SFGenealogy.com! > http://www.sfgenealogy.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CASANFRA- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I access NewspaperArchive through the Godfrey Memorial Library, which is currently $35/year and provides access to many other resources, as well. http://godfrey.org/ Nancy Crowley <[email protected]> wrote: I was so intrigued with the references I found on the Google News Archive that I subscribed to the newspaper archive service. I was able to access one article, went offline and wasn't able to get back on to the paid newspaper archive subscription service (the archive service didn't recognize my user name/password and the 800 number operates only until 5 central time.) I have to wait until tomorrow to resolve what is hopefully a technical difficulty, but buyer beware! Ron Filion wrote: Google News Archive If you haven't seen this yet, go look at it: http://news.google.com/archivesearch They have included the indexes for newspapers that are from ProQuest and Newspaperarchive.com, among many others. Some of the California newspapers include the L.A. Times and Oakland Tribune. But, this search is entirely free! And, you will see a snippet of the text. I find the best way to search is to put in the name you are looking for plus the location, for example: Filion San Francisco If you are looking for an exact name, remember to put it in quotes: "Ron Filion" San Francisco Enjoy, Ron p.s. Please feel free to forward this message to other lists or individuals. ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ========================== Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

I was so intrigued with the references I found on the Google News Archive that I subscribed to the newspaper archive service. I was able to access one article, went offline and wasn't able to get back on to the paid newspaper archive subscription service (the archive service didn't recognize my user name/password and the 800 number operates only until 5 central time.) I have to wait until tomorrow to resolve what is hopefully a technical difficulty, but buyer beware! Ron Filion <[email protected]> wrote: Google News Archive If you haven't seen this yet, go look at it: http://news.google.com/archivesearch They have included the indexes for newspapers that are from ProQuest and Newspaperarchive.com, among many others. Some of the California newspapers include the L.A. Times and Oakland Tribune. But, this search is entirely free! And, you will see a snippet of the text. I find the best way to search is to put in the name you are looking for plus the location, for example: Filion San Francisco If you are looking for an exact name, remember to put it in quotes: "Ron Filion" San Francisco Enjoy, Ron p.s. Please feel free to forward this message to other lists or individuals. ************************** Visit SFGenealogy.com! http://www.sfgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.

Yes, must be a good sight, but I wanted the LA paper back in the 1890's. Bah, humbug, it doesn't go back that far. (looking for an obit) Guess the only way to find an 1890's paper would be going to LA and looking at microfilm if they have it. Hmm? Helen O'Connor Ron Filion wrote: >Google News Archive > >If you haven't seen this yet, go look at it: > >http://news.google.com/archivesearch > >They have included the indexes for newspapers that are from ProQuest and Newspaperarchive.com, among many others. Some of the California newspapers include the L.A. Times and Oakland Tribune. > >But, this search is entirely free! And, you will see a snippet of the text. > >I find the best way to search is to put in the name you are looking for plus the location, for example: >Filion San Francisco > >If you are looking for an exact name, remember to put it in quotes: >"Ron Filion" San Francisco > >Enjoy, > >Ron > >p.s. Please feel free to forward this message to other lists or individuals. > >************************** >Visit SFGenealogy.com! >http://www.sfgenealogy.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Google News Archive If you haven't seen this yet, go look at it: http://news.google.com/archivesearch They have included the indexes for newspapers that are from ProQuest and Newspaperarchive.com, among many others. Some of the California newspapers include the L.A. Times and Oakland Tribune. But, this search is entirely free! And, you will see a snippet of the text. I find the best way to search is to put in the name you are looking for plus the location, for example: Filion San Francisco If you are looking for an exact name, remember to put it in quotes: "Ron Filion" San Francisco Enjoy, Ron p.s. Please feel free to forward this message to other lists or individuals.