Betty, I really have pestered you enough about my gggrandfather, Frederick (Ferdinand)Reinman, Amelia (Mit)Raymond's father in Sacramento) over the year, but he died between 1860-1870 (census). He was 94 in 1860 so he could not have lived much longer. In the 1865, Sacramento Daily Union which you posted for Monday, January 2, 1865, pg. 6 for 1864 DEATHS, there is listed under Sept.5 - UNK'n MAN.....dare I ask if you have anymore info on him? Ella in Michigan Picking up twigs along the way ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <betty@unisette.com> To: <CASACRAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 12:31 PM Subject: [CASacramento] 1864 Deaths > Sacramento Daily Union > Monday, January 2, 1865 > Page 6 > > MARRIAGES, BIRTHS AND DEATHS > The following is a list of the births, marriages and deaths > that have taken > place in Sacramento during 1864, as nearly as can be compiled > from authentic > sources: > > DEATHS > January > 2-Patrick FALLON, Ireland, 63 years > 4-Minnehaha FAYE, California, 5 months > 4-Louisa HOFFMAN, Illinois, 54 years > 6-Carrie YOUNG, California, 2 years, 11 months > 7-William H. SUMMERS, California, 15 months > 7-Anne McMAHON, Ireland, 27 years > 8-David E. DREW, --------, 17 years > 12-Charles E. YOUNG, California, 4 ? years > 15-R.L. JONES, Canada, 37 years > 15-F.B. CLEMENTS, New York, 37 years. > 15-F.B. WEST, California, 1 year > 16-T.C. MALCOLM, England, 46 years > 16-Daisy BAKER, California, 6 months > 20-F. MERCIER, France, 33 years > 21-William C. WOOD, Kentucky, 35 years > 23-J. McRAITH, California, an infant > 24-Charles LYONS, Ireland, 24 years > 26-Patrick CALLAHAN, Illinois, 26 years > 28-Jane ROBERTS, New York, 17 years > 28-Mary LUNDAN, Ireland, 8 years > 28-Morris BICK, Prussia, 35 years > 28-Abijah UPHAM, Maine, 56 years > February > 1-Charles N. HALL, Ireland, 57 years > 1-John H. SINCLAIR, Maryland, 40 years > 2-William PARKER, England, 46 years > 2-Unknown, China, 28 years > 3-Robert CAMPBELL, Kentucky, 53 years > 8-Mrs. LARREY, Ireland, 25 years > 7-Alice MURPHY, Michigan, 15 months > 8-Stephen B. VREELAND, New York, 50 years > 8-Joseph DENNIS, New York, 60 years > 10-J.M. LANE, --------, 45 years > 11-Son of H.P. DUFFY, California, 5 days > 13-Richard RING, Indiana, 76 years > 14-G.H. TILLEY, Wisconsin, 41 years > 16-Elby SANDERS, California, 1 month > 17-Frank FULLER, Maine > 18-Kate (Indian), California, 8 years > 18-B.F. JOHNSON, California, 2 years > 20-Mortimer J. SMITH, New York, 47 years > 21-Margaret ANDERSON, California, 1 year > 23-Sam (Indian), California, 12 years > 25-Harry C. GRAY, California, 4 years > 26-Frances C. FRAZIER, California, 15 months > 28-Ruthenda L. READY, 28 years > 28-Infant son of J.H. SULLIVAN, California, 1 day > 29-Justin LEGRAND, France, 40 years > March > 2-Amaur T. PALMER, Maine, 26 years > 3-John J. WILSON (colored), 42 years > 3-Ah Tong, China, 38 years > 4-Mary S. HILDEBREAND, California, 4 years > 4-Wm. McLOUGHLIN, Ireland, 40 years > 5-Thos. FERNLY, Maine, 45 years > 11-Katy BRIGGS, California, 4 years > 12-W.F. MARQUAND, Canada, 27 years > 17-Joseph KANE, Ireland, 47 years > 18-Ellen E. WITHERALL, California, 3 years > 18-George H. HILDEBRAND, California, 8 years > 19-Minnie DENTON, California, 6 years > 21-Florence J. HILL, California, 2 years > 22-Kate MERKLEY, New York, 31 years > 22-John F. CRONKITE, California, 7 years > 23-Lucy SEAMAN, New York, 67 years > 25-Chas. DONNELLY, Illinois, 4 years > 26-Juana CERVANTES, California, 3 years > 25-John YOUNG, Maine, 51 years > 26-Ah Gut, China, 40 years > 27-Kate BOICE, California, 1 year > 28-John A. SWIFT, California, 2 years > 31-Fred LAURIN, Canada, 22 years > 31-John McALLISTER, Ireland, 42 years > 31-Geneva SINGLETON, California, 3 months > April > 1-James BARTON, Washington (D.C.), 87 years > 1-Frank CANISALES, Mexico, 19 years > 2-Mary S. MILLER, California, 4 years > 4-Elizabeth BROWN, Nebraska, 14 years > 5-Frank E. SPINNER, 11 months > 5-Francois MITCHELL, France, 50 years > 6-Wm. J. CONKRITE, California, 2 months > 7-Martha L. KELLY, Massachusetts, 1 year > 8-Indian girl, California, 18 years > 8-Cora E. HUNT, Delaware, 8 years > 8-G.W. THOMPSON, 15 years > 9-W.H. MARTIN, California, 15 months > 11-Francis RAMSAY, California, 15 months > 11-W.H. LYNCH, California, 9 months > 12-W.F. WALTBY, Illinois, 26 years > 12-Moses ELKAM, France, 19 years > 12-Jacob YATES, Iowa, 22 years > 13-R. Matilda GROSS, California, 15 months > 15-James HANNA, Missouri, 28 years > 15-Sing Soy, China, 28 years > 22- Maggie L. DOYLE, California, 4 years > 23-Andrew J. RIGGS, Delaware, 42 years > 24-Marion R. HEACOCK, California, 4 years > 24-Hiram HADLOCK, Vermont, 60 years > 27- ------- SHIRLEY, California, 18 months > 27-George LEE, California, 25 days. > 27-Nellie I. HOUSE, California, 8 months > 29-George E. WALSH, California, 4 years > 29-Lillie G. HERRICK, California, 20 months > 29-Thos. C. BALTHROPE, California, 15 months > 30-George THOMPSON, California, 4 years > May > 4-Maria T. COOLOT, California, 11 months > 4-Francisco SOTO, Mexico, 66 years > 4-John CAMPBELL, Germany, 37 years > 4-Eben WATSON, Iowa, 3 years > 5-Bow Choe, China, 32 years > 8-W.H. McCLURE, New York, 23 years > 9-Elmer G. KLEES, California, 2 months > 9-J.P. FARRAN, California, 8 months > 10-E.H. McCARTY, California, 15 months > 11-J.H. CULVER, Pennsylvania, 50 years > 12-Mattie A. GRAY, Illinois, 6 months > 12-Frank KERNS, New York, 22 years > 12-James BENN, Vermont, 35 years > 13-Elizabeth CHAMBERLAIN, California, 22 months > 13-Alice MALTBY, Illinois, 13 months > 14-Hattie C. MONDAY, Illinois, 16 years > 14-Josiah J. WATSON, Pennsylvania, 46 years > 16-Katy FINIGAN, California, 15 months > 16-Jim (Indian), California, 10 years > 16-Ty Choy (female), China, 25 years > 20-W. WILLIAMS, Wales, 87 years > 22-J.W. THOMPSON, Missouri, 24 years > 23-Louisa P. KOENIG, California, 8 years > 23-Laura M. SWINTERTON, 49 years > 25-J.M. SMITH, New York, 30 years > 25-Caroline BAKER, California, 3 months > 26-Francis CRONKITE, Ohio, 30 years > 26-Charles BAILEY (colored), California, 2 years > 26-Wing Yeu, China, 60 years > 27-Yet Yow, China, 26 years > 27-Julia EILERS, California, 10 months > 28-Percival P. MIXER, California, 4 years > 28-Louisa CURTIS, Prussia, 41 years > 29-Mary MILLETE, Prussia, 2 years > 29-James LEONARD, California, 2 years > 29-Lilly RAMSEY, California, 3 years > 30-George V. WEAVER, California, 16 months > 31-Frederick BARRY, California, 10 months > 31-Mrs. J.E. LEARY, New York, 32 years > 31-Sing Yek, China, 57 years > 31-Unknown man, China, 35 years > June > 1-B.F. FOLGER, New York, 50 years > 1-W.D. FARRON, California, 3 years > 2-Margaret J. THOMPSON, California, 8 months > 3-Jane DAVIS, Virginia, 82 years > 3-Meiki GRAY, Iowa, 16 years > 4-Sarah E. LOWELL, California, 6 months > 4-Joana LEMAN, Chile, 88 years > 6-Mary NOLAND, California, 18 months > 7-Louise DERBEC, France, 37 years > 7-James M. McCLATCHY, California, 9 months > 7-Caroline BALDWIN, Perc, 37 years > 8- J.T. JACKSON, --------, 37 years > 8-N.B. McKINNEY, Pennsylvania, 44 years > 8-Andrea HUFTING, Germany, 38 years > 11-Kung Meng, China, 37 years > 11-Lucille A. DENEL, California, 7 years > 13-Clara ROBINETT, Illinois, 80 years > 13-Charles N. WALLACE, Ireland, 31 years > 14-Lizzie DONAHUE, California, 4 years > 15-Jose RODREGUES, Peru, 82 years > 16-Frank PINTO, Bavaria, 32 years > 18-Frank Brada, Fayal, 38 years > 18-Tye Lung, China, 12 years > 21-Robert GRIEVE, Michigan, 2 years > 27-Augustus HUGHES, Pennsylvania, 8 years > 27-Catherine CAMPBELL, New Brunswick, 35 years > 28-Granville C. NICHOLS, Kentucky, 36 years > 29-Charles A. GRIPE, California, 8 months > 29-James DUNCAN, Illinois, 51 years > 30-Philip CLAUDE, Canada, 24 years > July > 1-James DOHERTY, Ireland, 28 years > 9-Louisa HOFFMAN, Iowa, 8 years > 10-Lucy NETTLETON, Ohio, 44 years > 12-Rosa J. HATCH, California, 5 months > 12-Mary A. TORREY, Maine, 89 years > 12-Antonio GILAR, California, 14 months > 16-Robert HENDERSON, Ireland, 32 years > 16-Jane P. BRIGGS, Pennsylvania, 48 years > 17-Margaret FOX, Ireland, 31 years > 17-Sarah LUCAS, Nebraska, 3 years > 18-Pue King, China, 57 years > 19-Reu Amy BECKER, California, 21 months > 28-Marina --------, California, 7 days > 24-Pauline GRUHLER, California, 2 years > 25-Paul FRISCKE, Prussia, 7 years > 25-Sarah A. CASS, Canada, 16 years > 26-Mary A. HILL, Illinois, 2 years > 27-Graham MOORE, California, 8 months > 28-George L. GROTH, California, 7 months > 28-Henry ROBINSON, Ohio, 49 years > 28-L.D. MARTIN, Massachusetts, 32 years > August > 1-James REED, Ohio, 50 years > 1-Frances H. RINDON, Ireland, 35 years > 1-Thomas J. DONNELLY, Ireland, 31 years > 2-Gilbert ALDRIDGE, Ireland, 36 years > 3-George FISCHER, Germany, 46 years > 3-Ban Tye, China, 36 years > 4-Charlotte DESHIELL, France, 5 years > 6-Edward DWYER, Ireland, 33 years > 7-D. McD. BAILEY, California, 3 years > 8-John COCHRAN, Pennsylvania, 56 years > 11-Clara DURBEC, California, 6 years > 14-Narcissa BARROW, Mississippi, 10 years > 14-G.K. HENARIE, New Jersey, 36 years > 17-Hattie HILDRETH, California, 2 years > 19-Caroline A. RHODES, California, 2 years > 19-Tung Wan, China, 46 years > 29-Adelaide F. GUNN, Pennsylvania, 1 year > 22-Unknown man (drowned ), 35 > 23-J.B. ROBBINS, Vermont, 52 years > 24-John BROWN, Sweden, 40 years > 24-Elijah ROBISON, Maryland, 56 years > 26-William HAMILTON, Rhode Island, 34 years > 27-A.D. FIELD, California, 2 years > 28-Julia O'CONNELL, California, 8 months > 29-Francis PIMPTON, Massachusetts, 26 years > 29-Thos. D. BARROW, California, 5 years > September > 1-Chow Qui (female), China, 25 years > 2-Robert KIRK, Ireland, 49 years > 3-Patrick MULDOON, Ireland, 40 years. > 5-Mrs. Elizabeth PARK, England, 37 years > 5-Gates POPE, New York, 28 years > 5-Supposed to be Mathias SEGOLA > 5-Catherine GLEASON, Ireland, 25 years > 5-John SEAMAN, -------, 29 years > 5-Justin HOAG > 5-Mary Jane HANSON, Canada East, 31 years > 5-Charles C. HANSON, Canada East, 9 ? years > 5-Francis R. HANSON, California, 4 years > 5- ------ ROBINSON > 5-Unk'n supposed to be Mrs. VAN LANDINGHAM > 5-Unknown man > 6- ----- BLACK or BLANCH > 6-N. SALEMANCTI > 6-Albert A. MEYERS, Italy, 49 years > 6-Mary Jane GODEUS, Ireland, 19 years > 6-Louisa LECHEY, Ireland, 23 years > 6-James H. CLARK, Virginia, 35 years > 6-W.N. HASKELL, Maine, 43 years > 6-David GRAY, Maine, 52 years > 6-William F. WILLIAMS, Wales, 35 years > 6-Henry F.A. MEYER, Germany, 27 years > 6-David DAVIS, Wales, 35 years > 6-D.M. ANDERSON, -----, 35 years > 6-Manuel M. BROOM, -------, *8 years > 6- ------ JACOBS, ------, 30 years > 6-Samuel W. GRUSH, Massachusetts, 45 years > 6-Alexander DUBOIS, France, 30 years > 6-Rev. James CALLAN, Ireland, 38 years > 6-Geo. C. VAN LANDINGHAM, Missouri, 34 years > 6-James CLUNEY, Ireland, 27 years > 6-Wm. H. CONNELLY > 6-.F.G. ROSS, Kentucky, 39 years > 6-James O'HARRA, Ireland > 6-Charles NOLL, -----, 5 years > 6-Edward BRICKETS > 6-Chinaman, unknown > 6-John STEILI, of Placer county > 7-James RONAN, Ireland, 30 years > 7-N.C. HAMILTON > 7-Manuel KING > 7-Jessie G. BAKER, Vermont, 53 years > 8-Infant of John BRADLEY, stillborn > 8-Sarah A. BRADLEY, Louisiana, 29 years > 8-Christian M. STREMMING, ----, 5 years > 9-Charles Henry FEYHL, California, 23 days > 9-Lizzie HARPER, -----, 3 years > 12-John SEARCH, California, 2 years > 12-Rosina KREUZBEYER, California, 2 years > 13-Ophie N. BRAGG, Missouri, 24 years > 16-Rosina ROMAN, California, 4 years > 17-Bentha VARWIG, California, 8 years > 11-Hubert BURGESS, Massachusetts, 30 years > 12- ----- GILLESPIE, -------, 27 years > 14-L.R. BLAKE, Ohio > 14-Anna McGEE, Wisconsin, 19 years > 15-L.P. DUGAN, Ireland, 27 years > 18-P.B. HODGES, Virginia, 66 years > 19-C.E. GODDARD, California, 5 years > 20-Pablo ACOSTA, Mexico, 64 years > 21-W.B. McKINLEY, Kentucky, 60 years > 23-John RUGGLES, California, 7 years. > 24-Mary A. SALIE, California, 16 months > 25-Louisa MILLER, Germany, 27 years > 25-Emma STEUDEMAN, California, 1 year > 26-Infant of Mrs. C.L. WHITE, ---- > 26-Julia SNIDDY, California, 1 year > 30-William A. LINDLEY, California, 10 months > October > 1-Margaret SHAY, California, 10 months > 3-Joseph LASHELLE, California, 8 days > 3-Kate CONNELL, New York, 28 years > 4-Priscilla YANTIS, Kentucky, ---- > 6-Caroline M. LOWNEY, Cal., 3 years, 8 months > 6-Elizabeth DUFF, Isle of Man, 85 years > 8-Jennie G. COHN, California, 7 days > 10-Anna A. BIDLEMAN, California, 6 years. > 11-Jane DOHERTY, California, 3 years > 12-Ah Hee, California, 20 days > 11-Jared BROWN, Ohio, ------ > 16-Arthur CAMAN, California, 8 months > 17-R.F. SCOTT, Illinois, 30 years > 17-Victoria MORALES, California, 18 months > 18-Jeremiah MANSFIELD, England, 36 years > 20-Catherine HAINOON, California, 4 months > 21-Delbert DUSTIN, California, 8 years > 22-Katherine KIRCHNER, Bavaria, 70 years > 22-Bung Gong, China, 24 years > 26-Cyrus BUNKER, Ohio, 34 years > 27-George PIKE, England, 46 years > 28-W.F. GORMAN, California, 4 years > 28-Mary O'NEIL, California, 15 months > 29-Thoms GRANT, Jamaica, 25 years > 29-Julia GRIMES, Iowa, 40 years > 29-James DAVIS, Pennsylvania, 42 years > 30-Ida A. MAY, California, 3 months > 31-Laurentz PFEIFFER, Germany, 88 years > 31-Joseph FRANCIS, Portugal, 56 years > November > 2-Infant of D. FINIGAN, California > 4-Ambrose S. SULLIVAN, --------, 31 years > 4-Leopold MARKS, California, 3 years > 5-Michael LYCETT, Massachusetts, 21 years > 5-Mary YATES, Chile, 28 years > 5-Pastoria SULANES, Chile, 33 years > 5-Louis LINDSEY, Virginia, 88 years > 8-Emma B. FRIEND, Vermont, 49 years > 8-Ah Som, China, 35 years > 10-Chas. U. PRATT, California, 17 months > 11-H.P. DAYTON, Wisconsin, 17 years > 11-Virginia LOMBARD, California, 20 months > 11-Garolamus SCOPINICH, Austria, 34 years > 11-Margaret SLATTERY, Ireland, 30 years > 12-W.P. TAYLOR, California, 5 months > 12-Lucy HASTINGS, California 18 years > 12-Nellie FRASER, California, 3 years > 18-Infant of Jacob ARNOLD > 14-Elizabeth COFFEE, California, 20 months > 16-Ann O'CONNELL, Ireland, 56 years > 17-Elinor KIRGAN, Illinois, 3 years > 18-Chas. BEALS, California, 3 1/2 years > 20-Jeremiah JOB, 44 years, Virginia > 20-Lucie J. BRADY, 18 years, Australia > 20-Ah Chip, 39 years, China > 20-Margaret ANDERSON, 36 years, Scotland > 22-Chas. W. SCOTT, 1 year, 10 months, California > 23-Charley THOMPSON, 33 years, Sandwich Isl. > 23-Ah Tye, 37 years, China > 23-Ah Heue, 23 years, China > 23-Sarah A. JOHNSON, 2 1/2 years. California > 24-Chas. M. BURK, 7 years, California > 25-Geo. K. ALEMAN, 29 years, New York > 25-Anne C. KLEINHANS, 4 months, California > 26-Mary A. JOHNSON, 1 year, 7 months, California > 27-W.H. SMART, Ohio, 34 years > 28-Matthew M. REID, New York, 34 years > 29-John BANNON, Indiana, 28 years > 30-J.W. BARNETT, California, 4 years > December > 2-Wm. H. ROBINSON, Maryland, 49 years > 3-Nettie STONE, California ,5 months > 3-Hiram TUTTLE, New York, 42 years > 3-Catherine M. O'CONNELL, California, 3 years > 3-John ROWLAND, England, 29 years > 4-Rosa LOMBARDI, California, 3 years > 5-Hugh LEMOW, Canada, 31 years > 5-James E. WETMORE, California, 7 months > 11-Yu Son Chong, China, 34 years > 13-John KURT, Switzerland, 53 years > 14-Frank H. HARDING, Illinois, 17 years > 16-Nellie BURKE, Massachusetts, 11 years > 17-Infant son of A. HYNES, California > 17-Louis ST. MARIE, France, 80 years > 18-Frank KELLER, California, 8 years, 8 months > 18-Herman MILLER, California, 11 months > 20-John H. QUINN, 7 years > 23-Alice McHALE, Ireland, 35 years > 24-Kate McCLOY, Ireland, 35 years > 24-Katy F.J. KELLER, California, 7 years > 26-Isaiah JOHNSON, New York, 58 years > 27-Elizabeth MICHENER, California, 1 year > 28-John G. THAYER, Massachusetts, 35 years > 28-Alexander TAYLOR, Scotland, 31 years > 29-Josephine THOMAS, Germany, 46 years > 29-Mary SCHWARTZ, Germany, 23 years > > >

Ella, If you go to OLD CITY CEMETERY BURIAL RECORD Project, compiled by Lois Dove and published by Sloughhouse Genealogical Society, you will find a Fred. Reinman http://www.rootsweb.com/~casags/sg_cems_occ_r.htm *Reinman-Fred.-32-26 Aug 1879-New Helvetia Cemetery * Hope this is your guy,* * Nancy Pratt Melton Sacramento County Coordinator CAGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~npmelton/sacindex.html ** twigs wrote: > Betty, I really have pestered you enough about my gggrandfather, > Frederick (Ferdinand)Reinman, Amelia (Mit)Raymond's father in > Sacramento) over the year, but he died between 1860-1870 (census). He > was 94 in 1860 so he could not have lived much longer. > > In the 1865, Sacramento Daily Union which you posted for Monday, > January 2, 1865, pg. 6 for 1864 DEATHS, there is listed under > Sept.5 - UNK'n MAN.....dare I ask if you have anymore info on him? > > Ella in Michigan > Picking up twigs along the way

I replied to Nancy on this Reinman but failed to include the Casacram List. You all are so wonderful in looking for my gggrandfather, Frederick Reinman/Raymond, age 94 in the 1860 Sacramento (Sutter Twp) Census. This Frank Reinman mentioned by Nancy is NOT him. This was found sometime ago. Even tho his age was listed as 32, assuming nothing, I researched this guy. I wanted to alert y'all on this so you wonderful volunteers will not waste your precious time on him. Thank you. Thank you. Ella in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Pratt Melton" <mmelton@rcsis.com> To: <CASACRAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: [CASacramento] Reply to Ella > Ella, > > If you go to OLD CITY CEMETERY BURIAL RECORD Project, compiled > by Lois Dove and published by Sloughhouse Genealogical Society, > you will find a Fred. Reinman > http://www.rootsweb.com/~casags/sg_cems_occ_r.htm > > *Reinman-Fred.-32-26 Aug 1879-New Helvetia Cemetery > * > > Hope this is your guy,* > * > > Nancy Pratt Melton > Sacramento County Coordinator > CAGenWeb Project > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~npmelton/sacindex.html > ** > > > twigs wrote: > >> Betty, I really have pestered you enough about my >> gggrandfather, Frederick (Ferdinand)Reinman, Amelia >> (Mit)Raymond's father in Sacramento) over the year, but he >> died between 1860-1870 (census). He was 94 in 1860 so he >> could not have lived much longer. >> >> In the 1865, Sacramento Daily Union which you posted for >> Monday, January 2, 1865, pg. 6 for 1864 DEATHS, there is >> listed under >> Sept.5 - UNK'n MAN.....dare I ask if you have anymore info on >> him? >> >> Ella in Michigan >> Picking up twigs along the way > > >