Wow! You just pointed something out to me that I didn't see before. I knew Darlene was Velma's daughter.....and it didn't click the Jim Cramer she married was the Cramer related to this one here. Boom....it just all went together......Yeah! I see it now. This Cramer is connected to me, but not you......let me show you how it goes.....This is neat......so glad you brought this to my attention. Thanks-Here goes: James W. "Jim & Jimmy" Cramer s/o George Ephram Carter & Mary Glenn Mary Glenn d/o James Andrew "Jim" Glenn & Zula M. Carter Zula M. Carter d/o Job (Joseph) Carter (aka James Thomas Carter) & Mary Parthena (Partheny) Nida/Niday ****Okay Leahrueah Carter is also the daughter of Job (Joseph) Carter (aka James Thomas Carter) & Mary Parthena (Partheny) Nida/Niday (Leahrueah is also the Sister to Zula) Leahrueah married Walter Edward Dittman & they had my grandmother- Geraldine Dittman (twin) Geraldine Dittman married Lawrence Woodrow Lowe (my grandfather) s/o John William Loe & Frances Augusta "Gussy" Waddell ****Okay John William Loe & Frances Augusta "Gussy" Waddell also had a daughter-Velma Effie Lowe Velma Effie Lowe m. #2 husband John W. Padgett and they had daughter Darlene Padgett ***************Okay This Darlene Padgett married James W. "Jim/Jimmy" Cramer. NEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk soon. Jodie Jodie104@Juno.com On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:14:03 -0600 "Jeanie Davis" <jtdavis@fn.net> writes: >This is Velma Loe's daughter Darlene in-law. not related to us > >---------- >> From: Johnny F Hollifield <jodie104@juno.com> >> To: Carter-L@Rootsweb.com >> Cc: quest_j@pacbell.net; sierra@kc1.net; Jodie104@juno.com; >jtdavis@fn.net; FrontDesk@aai-us.com >> Subject: RE: Mary (Glenn) Cramer >> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 8:32 AM >> >> Mary Cramer d/o James A. & Zula M. (Carter) Glenn >> >> Bartlesville Examiner Enterprise >> Friday Feb 14, 1986 pg 16 >> >> Mary Cramer >> >> Mary Cramer, 76, a longtime resiident of Bartlesville, died at >8:45am >> Thursday in the Nowata Nursing Home. >> >> Mrs. Cramer was born Oct 6, 1909 at Hominy, to James A. and Zula M. >> (Carter) Glenn. She grew up and attended school in Hominy. She >married >> George Ephraim Cramer in June of 1925 at Hominy. They made their >home in >> Hominy until 1943 at which time they moved to Bartlesville. He >preceeded >> heer in death on Nov 18, 1945. Mrs. Cramer was employed with >Phillips >> Petroleum Co. from 1948-1972. She was a member of the Tuxedo >Assembly of >> God church. >> >> Mrs. Cramer is survived by four sons: James "Jim" William Cramer of >> Nowata, Lawrence Calvin Cramer and Charley Lloyd Cramer, both of >> Bartlesville, and Jack Andrew Cramer of Norway; one daughter, >Dorothy >> Ruth Provolt of Mexico; three sisters: Mamie Phillips of Oklahoma >City, >> Opal Willhite and Lorene Pogue, both of Bartlesville; one brother, >Resely >> D. Glenn of Springfield, Oregon; 18 grandchildren; 34 great >grandchildren >> and several nieces and nephews. >> >> Funeral Services will be held at 10am Tuesday in the Tuxedo >Assembley of >> God church with Rev. Charles McKnight officiating. Interment will >follow >> in the White rose Cemetery under the direction of the Stumpff >Funeral >> Home. >> >> Feb 13, 1986 >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]