This looks interesting. I'm looking for family connections to Agnes Carter, who m James Madison Helm (sometimes Helms) in Knox Co OH in 1836. The Helm family lived in Guernsey Co OH at this time, was originally from Frederick Co VA & KY. Agnes & James M Helm moved to Grant Co IN about 1843 and Champaign Co IL about 1854. Agnes approx dates are 1815-1890. In a directory in Champaign, she lists her place of origin as Loudoun Co, and her census entries always give her birthplace as VA. We know almost nothing about her - in the family plot, her gravestone is the only one missing (vandalized years ago, not recovered). I believe they were married by a Universalist minister named Truman Strong (he was Universalist later - not sure about 1835). I haven't been able to connect Agnes Carter Helm to any Carters in Knox Co OH. There are several families, but she doesn't fit in. The state law at the time was that a marriage had to take place in the bride's county of residence. Don't know if that was strictly followed, but Knox Co OH makes no sense for James Helm. One of their sons married a Quaker woman, and one of their grandsons did also; several of their children went to a Quaker boarding school in Indiana, altho they don't seem to have been Quakers themselves. I'm descended from some Carter Quakers (the marriage above) with VA connections but no known link to Agnes Carter. James Madison Helm's brother George Washington Helm m Nancy Carter in Guernsey Co (Baptist minister) in 1833 or 35. Nancy also has a Loudoun Co connection - her father is Levi Carter, who enlisted in the army in 1812 in Loudoun Co. I can't place him with any particular family either. There is good evidence he is not the father of my Agnes Carter, from his estate records in the 1870's, which seem to indicate all their children. -----Original Message----- From: Miriam H. Fetters <MFetters@verizon.net> To: CARTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:47:24 -0500 Subject: [CARTER-L] James CARTER of Loudoun Co., VA I link up to James CARTER of Loudoun County, VA through his son, etc: Asa CARTER b 1771, approx, m. Cynthia PARKER Jun 1797 (his first cousin) Ardalus (Ardilles) CARTER, b. approx 1805, Loudoun Co., VA, m.Hannah GULICK, ca 1833, Ohio. Almira CARTER, b. 13 Jan 1852, Adams Co., IN, m. Abel Johnson HAWK 1880, d. 16 Feb 1921, Escondido, CA Charles Elton HAWK, b. April 1884, Adams Co., IN, m. Pearl BAIRD 1805, Mercer Co., OH, d. May 1957 Cynthia PARKER was daughter of Elizabeth EBLIN (EBLEN) and Joseph PARKER. Parents of Elizabeth EBLIN were John William EBLIN and Mary WARNER. Cynthia PARKER was a Quaker when she married Asa CARTER. I've obtained some of the 1700's info from a book on church records of Loudoun County. Miriam

Does anyone know of or anything about the famly listed below Thanks Tom Carter Edward S. in Harrison Co. Ohio 1880 Caroline (McBride) Alfaretta b. abt. 1871(spelling ?) James T. abt. 1873 Edward A. 1876 (in 1920 & 1930 single, gold miner in Mohave Co. AZ.) Charles R. 1877 Henry C. 1881 ............................ 1900 Valle Twp. Jefferson Co. MO. Caroline Carter 61 widow (said had 5children, 4 still living)either James or Alfaretta had died. Charles R. 22 Henry C. 19 (the last I find him) Pansy Frothingham 5, granddaughter b. MO., (1910 at Mo.School for deaf, 1920 maid for C.Kennedy, Moffet Co. Mo., 1930 ?) .................. 1910 Caroline 71, in Washington Co. MO. living alone, has a female boarder (can't find the boys or daughter) .................. 1920 Moffet Co. Colo. Caroline 81, with son Charles & family .......... 1930 Charles in Bonner Co. Idaho

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Hello, It's been a long time since I last sent out the messages you will soon be receiving. #1: SUGGESTED GUIDELINES TO GET ANSWERS, and also proper etiquette in sending & responding to email messages on the list. They are not new, I've used these suggestions for at least the last 10 years since the lists were organized. I did not write them, Tim Carter, who was a member of the original CARTER Family list authored the original message. He gave me permission to use the same and I've found it quite useful. So, when it comes please read it and try to use some of the suggestions. One of the MAJOR COMPLAINTS I've received lately, and to be blunt, it annoys me also, is the failure to change subject lines. When someone posts a message to the list, rather than changing the subject line (if the subject changes), many will continue to tag on that same subject. Even if it has no bearing on the content of their post. Please, use the appropriate subject line, I guarantee it will increase the chances of your message being read. Also, when replying to a message, please try to <------------<snip>---------------> out unnecessary text. Again, it will increase the chances your message will be read. Finally, #2: Everyone is going to receive an undated copy of the WELCOME MESSAGE to the particular list. If you haven't read it for a while, once again, please take time and read it. Best regards Charles E. ("Chuck") Carter cetracer@comcast.net Listowner / Moderator CARTER-L@rootsweb.com HARDIN-L@rootsweb.com WALLACE-L@rootsweb.com ************************************************************** "The journey of a thousand miles must begin with one step" Lao Tzu **************************************************************

SUGGESTED GUIDELINES to HELP GET ANSWERS by Tim Carter If I am going to be a writer and try to get your attention so that you will help me, I must be courteous to you; I must be thoughtful enough to present materials in such a manner as to get and keep your attention; I must write my material in a way that makes it fast, easy, and pleasant to read. With these thoughts in mind, consider that the following are NOT RULES, but they are SUGGESTED GUIDELINES for use by genealogy researchers. Also, if you are a member/user on a list which has an owner or moderator who specifies how to post to that particular list, please, try to post to that list in accordance with his/her instructions. 1) What are you talking about? What is your Subject? 2) Are you shouting at the reader? 3-7) Typing names so they are easy to read. 8) Where and How to Reply. 9-10) Flaming. 11) Are you less considerate and more disrespectful than the flamer? than the sympathizers? 12) You want to reply, but, Are You Ready? 1) Do you really want me to read your message? Many users of the lists use the subject line to speed up their search. Messages with blank subject lines are deleted in bulk before any reading is attempted. Both the sender and the receiver have "lost" when a connection they have for each other is not made because of a subject omitted. 2) Generally, type everything in lower case (small) letters. Typing everything in ALL CAPS is considered SHOUTING AT THE READER. 3) ALWAYS type SURNAMES in upper case (CAPITAL) letters. 4) When listing SURNAMES only, enter a comma and two spaces between the names. This makes for faster, easier reading: CARTER, DELOACH, KIRBY, LEE, PEDRON (PLEASE, do not space between letters of the name, and do not use special characters within a name) 5) DO NOT use the asterisk * or the slash / as a separator of SURNAMES. Use this same rule for applying other special characters in your writings. This is hard on the eyes, and some of us won't read it. Therefore, you and I might miss a perfect opportunity to find a connection to one of the names we are both researching. 6) Generally, type names as follows: SURNAME, First Second Third "Nickname" Title (Although it won't always work out this way, try to make it a standard way of writing names.) Example: CARTER, Elisha Joseph Goodwin "Joe" Rev 7) When listing SURNAMES with locations, try to make the listings as columns if possible. At least enter some spaces to make for easier, faster reading: CARTER > NC, SC, MS, AR LEE > NC, SC, TN, AR JONES > FL, AL, TN, GA OWENS > NC, GA, LA KIRBY > AR WOOD > TN,AR Realize that the progression of states is not meant to be alphabetical, but represents the general movement (or migration) of the family or individual being researched, and are the locations being searched. 8) When you reply (respond) to a message received on a list, PLEASE, be aware of where your reply is going "before you send it.". Some of the lists are set up so the REPLY automatically returns your message to the list. Other lists automatically return your replies to the originator of the message. AGAIN, PLEASE double check the return address where you are sending the answer to that post. A BIG THANK YOU for your help on this. 9) Please, DO NOT flame someone (put them down rather rudely) for something they have done. The individual may be new and did not realize what was correct and proper. Or, an individual can be in a hurry and just do things wrong. (Personally, I do not wish to reduce <degrade> myself to the low level of flaming someone. I have been flamed and know how bad it made me feel, even though I had not intended to hurt or upset anyone.) Consider that in most instances the act is not on purpose, but accidental. If you must reply, be courteous, polite, and positive and send them a private note. 10) Above all, DO NOT flame someone publicly on one of the lists. It is bad manners on the part of the person doing the flaming, and shows disrespect toward all other members of the list. (They do not want to hear the flamer's whining about what someone has supposedly done to the flamer or to them. That is why there are always so many rude, ill-natured replies afterwards.) 11) Do you reply to the flamer, and send it to the list? Then, you have been more disrespectful to fellow list members than was the flamer. You have become a part of the continuing nuisance to the list. Does someone have a loss, and accidentally post it to the list? Are you one of the sympathizers that also post your condolences to the list? You have become a part of the continuing nuisance to the list. Are you one of those that posts to the list in anger or dismay, trying to get the sympathizers to stop posting? You have added fuel to the fire - you helped increase the problem. Please stop and think before posting ANY OFF SUBJECT REPLY to a list. 12) Do you really want to flame someone? Go look in the mirror. That person you are looking at knows exactly how you feel and what you are thinking. Therefore, that person knows exactly how to take what you are saying. Furthermore, if that person in the mirror smiles at you, you are going to have to smile back. And, if you smile at the person in the mirror and that person in the mirror does not smile back at you, you are not ready to write to anyone yet. Now, let's work together and find some genealogy answers. Thank you. Charles E. ("Chuck") Carter cetracer@comcast.net Listowner / Moderator CARTER-L@rootsweb.com HARDIN-L@rootsweb.com WALLACE-L@rootsweb.com ************************************************************** "The journey of a thousand miles must begin with one step" Lao Tzu **************************************************************

Cousins, See forwarded message below, but please read the following also: For some reason, I've seem to have become the "middle man" in this conversation. Please, post the question direct to the list, so I don't have to foward it. Unfortunately, I cannot contribute as the link does not connect to me (at least at this time.) Regards, Chuck Carter -------Original Message------- From: Carter, Jackie L. Date: 03/21/06 07:49:10 To: Chuck Carter Cc: CatchesTheWind@aol.com Subject: RE: Re: Fw: {not a subscriber} FW: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi James S had a brother named Calvin who is buried next to him in New York cemetery in Tippah County. Another older brother was Jonathon I believe but no John. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Carter [mailto:cetracer@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:55 PM To: CARTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: Re: Fw: {not a subscriber} FW: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi -------Original Message------- From: CatchesTheWind@aol.com Date: 03/20/06 16:25:07 To: cetracer@comcast.net Subject: Re: Fw: {not a subscriber} FW: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi Hi, Did you James S. Carter have a brother named John Carter? Thank you

I link up to James CARTER of Loudoun County, VA through his son, etc: Asa CARTER b 1771, approx, m. Cynthia PARKER Jun 1797 (his first cousin) Ardalus (Ardilles) CARTER, b. approx 1805, Loudoun Co., VA, m.Hannah GULICK, ca 1833, Ohio. Almira CARTER, b. 13 Jan 1852, Adams Co., IN, m. Abel Johnson HAWK 1880, d. 16 Feb 1921, Escondido, CA Charles Elton HAWK, b. April 1884, Adams Co., IN, m. Pearl BAIRD 1805, Mercer Co., OH, d. May 1957 Cynthia PARKER was daughter of Elizabeth EBLIN (EBLEN) and Joseph PARKER. Parents of Elizabeth EBLIN were John William EBLIN and Mary WARNER. Cynthia PARKER was a Quaker when she married Asa CARTER. I've obtained some of the 1700's info from a book on church records of Loudoun County. Miriam

-------Original Message------- From: MaggeD@aol.com Date: 03/20/06 20:38:21 To: cetracer@comcast.net Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Fw: {not a subscriber} FW: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi No, I don't think James S. had a brother John. In 1840, there was a young male in John Carter's family but I don't know who he was. James did have a son John Berry Carter. Margarette Davis

----- Original Message ----- From: George Kelly To: Carter-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: Carter's Looking for descendants of William Samuel Carter 1833-1891. Born in Patrick County Virginia and died in Lee County Virginia. Male descendants: 1. John J. Carter 1855-1925 My Line 2. Quillin Carter abt. 1857 3. Samuel Pinkney Carter 1858-1910 4. Robert L. Carter b. 1868 M. Rachel Tomlinson 5. Thomas P. Carter 1870-1903 6. Samuel Henry Carter 1876-1914 7. Fred Carter m. Minnie Pauline Bailey 8. Robert Carter M.(1)Ella Paugh(2)Della Taylor 9. Samuel Edward Carter 1880-1929 m. Anna M. French 10. Morin Olin Carter 1855-1929 M. Gertrude Wyatt 11. Gail Tyler Carter 1887-1946 M. Natalie Byus 12. Tipton Carter 1889-1921 M. Grace-? 13. Robert E. Lee Carter 1894-1963 M.(1) Estella Williamson (2) Delphia Marcum 14. Ray Jackson Carter 1897-1923 15. Earl Clifton Carter 1895-? M. Frances Chambers 16. William Perle Carter 1897-1926 17. Glenn Garrison Carter 1911-? M. Edith Sprinkle.

-------Original Message------- From: CatchesTheWind@aol.com Date: 03/20/06 16:25:07 To: cetracer@comcast.net Subject: Re: Fw: {not a subscriber} FW: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi Hi, Did you James S. Carter have a brother named John Carter? Thank you

Looking for descendants of William Samuel Carter 1833-1891. Born in Patrick County Virginia and died in Lee County Virginia. Male descendants: 1. John J. Carter 1855-1925 My Line 2. Quillin Carter abt. 1857 3. Samuel Pinkney Carter 1858-1910 4. Robert L. Carter b. 1868 M. Rachel Tomlinson 5. Thomas P. Carter 1870-1903 6. Samuel Henry Carter 1876-1914 7. Fred Carter m. Minnie Pauline Bailey 8. Robert Carter M.(1)Ella Paugh(2)Della Taylor 9. Samuel Edward Carter 1880-1929 m. Anna M. French 10. Morin Olin Carter 1855-1929 M. Gertrude Wyatt 11. Gail Tyler Carter 1887-1946 M. Natalie Byes 12. Tipton Carter 1889-1921 M. Grace-? 13. Robert E. Lee Carter 1894-1963 M.(1) Estella Williamson (2) Delphia Mrcum 14. Ray Jackson Carter 1897-1923 15. Earl Clifton Carter 1895-? M. Frances Chambers 16. William Perle Carter 1897-1926 17. Glenn Garrison Carter 1911-? M. Edith Sprinkle.

Brownie, Would you be talking about Carter's Chapel off Scuffletown Rd in Bacon County , Georgia ? I've been told most everybody buried there is kin to my family in one way or another ! Both my grandparents are buried there along with 3 Uncle's and my brother. Wanda Hester Hammond > >All the Carters in Carters Chapel Cemetery. > >G Grandmother was Rosalie Tennessee Carter (m. James Williamson Younger) >daughter of Henry Newton Carter and Sarah Anne Burrow. > >:-) Brownie MacKie >

George can you tell me where Samuel Carter lived and his time frame? I am going to add more on Daniel Carter and maybe someone will recognize him. He was a witness to a deed in Goochland County in 1746 from Henry Trent to Robert Goode along with Bennett Goode and Thomas Turpin. He went to Henrico County for the trial of William Day against Poval Carter. Povai Carter l, paid him and a Giles Carter for 2 days attendance and traveling 37 miles twice and ferriage. Henrico County Court Orders pg 157 June 1757. (Robert Carter in Cumberland County had a son Giles. ) Daniel was a an overseer for John Pleasants in Cumberland County. In 1763. he was a witness to a deed when John Pleasants Sr. and Jr. sold 800 acres to Joseph Calland and Maurice Langhorne. He was in various trials as a witness. He bought 100 acres from Hezekiah and his son Daniel Mosby, Hezekiah inherited from his father- in-law Nicholas Cox. A Giles Carter was a witness to a land transaction of Nicholas to John Martin then in Henrico in 1728. The land Daniel bought in 1775 was on Maple Swamp which fell into Powhatan County. One of his Daniel's sons was John B. Carter who was born 11 February 1758. He married Elizabeth Mosby. According to his pension application John was a son of Daniel and Jane? John was not in Daniel's will although he was on executor's bond. Daniel's children named in his will were Charles Carter, Povall Carter ll, born 1762, Susannah Carter married William Talley in 1788, Frances Carter married William Sallee in 1796. George Sallee married Ann Carter 1800, and Milley Carter married John Jesse in 1805. In the marriages of George Sallee and William Sallee, Benjamin Carter was a witness to both marriages. Povall Carter married Martha Davis in 1792. She was a daughter of William Davis, deceased , and Elizabeth. He moved to Prince Edward County where some of his Davis kinfolks were living . Jenny Carter , another daughter of Daniel's, married Alexander Trent in 1808 in Prince Edward. Wilson Carter a son of Povall ll who married Sarah Davis a daughter of Jesse Davis in Cumberland County in 1815. He lived and died in Prince Edward County. He was a grandson of Daniel Carter.

-------Original Message------- From: Carter, Jackie L. Date: 03/20/06 13:22:09 To: CARTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} FW: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi From: Carter, Jackie L. Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20 AM To: 'The Wolf' Cc: 'jcarter3@cox.net' Subject: RE: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi I descend from James S. Carter, 1837-1903, TN of Tippah County, Mississippi. I am reasonably sure his father was John Carter, 1787-1850, NC. John died in Tippah County in 1850. He apparently spent time in Tennessee as James S. was born in Tennessee and it is assumed in Lincoln County and moved to Tippah County between 1840 and 1850. They apparently did not leave much of a footprint prior to 1850 as I can find very little in Tennessee or North Carolina. If anyone has any information on this Carter line please contact me at jcarter3@Cox.net. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: The Wolf [mailto:f58905@knology.net] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:19 AM To: CARTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CARTER-L] Carter in Mississippi I am looking for any and all Carter families in Mississippi. Ben Bunting

This Carter family has been my brick wall for over 20 years. My great-grandmother was AMELIA BERTHA CARTER b. Jan. 28, 1872 in Coshocton County, OH. She married SETH DAVID BUTLER, the son of DAVID CHRISTY BUTLER (first governor of the state of NE) in Pawnee City, Pawnee County, NE on March 29, 1891. AMELIA BERTHA was the daughter of JAMES W. CARTER and NANCY ADAMS (supposedly descendant of President ADAMS but no proof). JAMES was born Oct. 6, 1850 in Coshocton County, OH. NANCY was born Sept. 8, 1851 in Coshocton County, OH. Other children of JAMES and NANCY were: 1. NANCY BLANCHE CARTER (AMELIA's twin who died in infancy) 2. MAUD CARTER b. Jan. 2, 1876 3. ROBERT JAMES CARTER b. Nov. 10, 1883 All of the above were born in Coshocton County, OH. JAMES W. CARTER was the son of WILLIAM CARTER b. 1822 in VA and CHARLOTTE SMITH b. 1824 in OH. The siblings of JAMES W. CARTER were: 1. ELIZABETH CARTER b. 1845 in OH 2. SANFORD CARTER b. 1846 in OH 3. FRANCES CARTER b. 1848 in OH If anyone has any connection to this family, please contact me. BENNE MCDONALD New Boston, TX bjmcdonald@txk.net

Betty, You may well remember better than me. We will see what the others recall. May get several different versions. You are probably right about who attended the event. Ken Tim Haller wrote: >Carter Herndon, my great 3x Grandfather, son of Elliott Herndon and Sarah "Sally: Carter, daughter of Charles Carter and unk, Son of James Carter, son of Captain Thomas Carter of Virginia > >Now this is from memory, I'll have to load up my files from my backups as I recently had my harddrive go bad on me. > > >Tim Haller, BSc >574 Poipu Drive >Honolulu, HI 96825 >808-394-1584 >866-896-0263 Fax >808-294-3832 Cell > > > > >

Anyone know of parents & siblings of Elizabeth Carter, born about 1780, married Edward Conner in 1797 in Anson County, NC? They had children: Sampson, Ruth, Thomas, John, Edward, Elizabeth, Malinda, Lucinda, Ephraim, William, James, and Eliza (perhaps the same person as Elizabeth). Elizabeth Carter died about 1855 in Fayette County, IL. Thanks, Lois Laudie

Anyone have connections to CARTER names in Savannah, GA (Chatham County)? Other surname connections to our CARTER lines are WELLS, MOBLEY, LIGHTSEY, TILLMAN, RUSHING, FARR, BURNSIDE, HANCOCK, DICKERSON, and WALLER. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC

We also joined Carter-cousins. Our family is Elijah, #45620 going back to Wm. Carter and Mary Goodloe. I am still searching for the right Joseph - father of Elijah. And I'm trying to find info on Landon N. Carter as possible father of Kemp Goodloe Carter, my gggrandfather. Landon N. was an officer in the U.S. Marines from 1824 to 1847. He died in Norfolk VA Sept 26, 1847. He came from Virginia Springs I think in Craig Co. VA.

Carter Herndon, my great 3x Grandfather, son of Elliott Herndon and Sarah "Sally: Carter, daughter of Charles Carter and unk, Son of James Carter, son of Captain Thomas Carter of Virginia Now this is from memory, I'll have to load up my files from my backups as I recently had my harddrive go bad on me. Tim Haller, BSc 574 Poipu Drive Honolulu, HI 96825 808-394-1584 866-896-0263 Fax 808-294-3832 Cell