Hi Shirley, Elaine here again... What I was pondering but now realize I didn't make clear in my message to you, is that perhaps your ancestor William and my Robert were brothers? Our family also did not show imagination in naming the children, but handed down family names generation after generation for at least 200 years. Family names were: William, James, Robert, Hugh, John and George, as well as Agnes, Elizabeth, Jane, Janet, and Margaret. I mentioned that my Robert Carson named his son John. John in turn named his oldest child after himself, and the next male child was called William. Is there anything that you know about the life of your people that might connect them to mine? Elaine Vancouver, B.C., Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > Thank you, Josette, for stating this. I have enjoyed reading this > discussion. > > It is so tempting to look for ways to confirm what you suspect - > especially when the searching gets frustrating. I am not involved in > the DNA research and am somewhat cautious as to its actual value. My > scepticism always leads me to wonder if the most vigorous proponents of > anything might have a financial benefit from it. Also, it is sad to see > people given information that makes them optimistic/excited about > something when it is not really accurate. > > There are many of us who are finding dead ends in our Irish research - > but we keep trying - perhaps somewhere there is a tiny bit of > information that will help. > > Personally, I am having some difficulty with William Carson (born abt > 1787 in Fermanagh) and his wife Ann (born about 1787 in Leitrim). Many > of us here in Canada are descendents of this couple - as well as many > who are now in the U.S. And, as most of us have discovered, the Carson > families did not show much originality in naming their children. > > Shirley Carson Johnson > British Columbia, Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Josette L. Maxwell > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > > > Several years ago - seven/eight? - when this Alexander Harvey Carson > "line" was set forth, a number of the Carson researchers (with decades > of experience in genealogy) managed to track down the originator of the > information - a guy in Arizona. He was repeatedly contacted and asked > for evidence/documentation/verification of the information cited by him. > He absolutely refused to do so. Further, people started trying to verify > themselves and there exists nothing that supports his whole myth in > terms of linage although there was information on specific individuals > at specific times, i.e. there was a Rev. Alexander Carson (if I remember > correctly) who was in Scotland at one time. > > Genealogy data without evidence/documentation is mythology. > > With reference to the DNA testing, you can independently verify via > internet research that the process they are using can only establish a > linkage going back three or four generations, if that. The other form of > DNA testing is more accurate. Since everyone in the world (according to > some archeaologistis and geneticists) go back to "Lucy", you're bound to > find some linkages. With respect to establishing genalogical proof, it > is totally worthless. It's a waste of money and basically takes your > time and money from pursuing real genealogy research. > > I cannot tell you how many people write me telling me that they are part > of the Henry Maxwell/Agness Carson line (which goes > back to 1725) because of the DNA testing. We have everyone, and I mean > everyone documented, proven beyond doubt. And, > they keep writing back and saying but the DNA proves it. It > is really totally worthless. > > If you look at family search data, you can see the "carsons" who are > from the nordic countries (spelled slightly differently, converted or > rather angelized to Carson). There is also an Italian line. > > People always look for shortcuts to the plodding required in genealogy > research. And, sometimes you hit a dead end and it is really a dead > end. I cannot get Walter and Agness Carson or Samuel and Jane Carson > back to Scotland/Ireland nor can I get HEnry Maxwell back. I suspect > that will always be the case. The records just aren't there. > > Josette > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Stephanie Carson Feldman <[email protected]> >>Sent: Oct 8, 2006 12:00 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON >> >>Josette, >>I also have seen the Alexander Harvery Carson. Do you >>know what source records prompted this? There must be something to >>have started it, though I'm sure the internet has propagated it. >> >>Are there male Carsons of this line around today? I'd >>love to have more people participate in the DNA >>studies. They have a 67 marker test now that can >>bring the generations down to a much smaller number. >> >>Stephanie >> >>--- "Josette L. Maxwell" <[email protected]> >>wrote: >>> There is absolutely no evidence/documentation of any relationship >>> to the "Alexander Carson" line, if indeed it is a >>> line. It's been >>> discredited many times. >>_______________________________________________ >>CARSON mailing list >>[email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message