Gary, Do you have any information on your family back in either Ireland or Scotland? Our family is from the John Carson who came to SC in 1767, and like many, we have the legend of being related to Kit Carson. It seems to me that the connection has to be made in Ireland or Scotland. Carolyn Carson Greencastle, IN

Josette, I also have seen the Alexander Harvery Carson. Do you know what source records prompted this? There must be something to have started it, though I'm sure the internet has propagated it. Are there male Carsons of this line around today? I'd love to have more people participate in the DNA studies. They have a 67 marker test now that can bring the generations down to a much smaller number. Stephanie --- "Josette L. Maxwell" <[email protected]> wrote: > There is absolutely no evidence/documentation of any > relationship > to the "Alexander Carson" line, if indeed it is a > line. It's been > discredited many times.

Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:57 AM Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:34 AM It is th OPINION of many Carsons that all are related As I understand the Carsons: The Carson Family was originally Scottish, moved to Ireland, moved to back to Scotland and the to Ireland the second time. After this they spread out to Canada, the USA and beyound. Yes, we are all related to Kit Carson, although it may be a very slim and distant connection and not provable Carson City Nevada is named after the Carson Family Do a Google search for "Sir Edward Carson" The Carson's in Ireland (my family included) are Protestent. Check < http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/carson.htm > and a quote from that web page: Sir Edward Henry Carson (1854-1935) led the paramilitary Ulster Volunteer Force in opposing Home Rule plans for the whole of Ireland, eventually succeeding in ensuring Northern Ireland remained part of the union. End quote Thus our Carson Family is resonsible for the break up of Ireland into the North and South of today My Carsons My Carsons are around the Barrie Ontario area and the problem I have found is that there are too many Willism Carsons in my family without middle names. Some are very stond Anti-Catholic Regards Al In <[email protected]>, on 10/08/2006 at 09:06 AM, "John & Carolyn Carson" <[email protected]> said: >Gary, >Do you have any information on your family back in either Ireland or >Scotland? Our family is from the John Carson who came to SC in 1767, and >like many, we have the legend of being related to Kit Carson. It seems to >me that the connection has to be made in Ireland or Scotland. >Carolyn Carson >Greencastle, IN >_______________________________________________ >CARSON mailing list >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message -- (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. (")_(") Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination. ***************************************** * Alan Townsend Sechelt, BC Canada * * E-Mail: [email protected] * Home Page: * Tel: (604) 885-0943 * * Mr2 Ice: Reg #582 *****************************************

Yes, I would say that all of Kit Carson's family born in America have been traced out of the 1700s. The connection must be in Ireland or Scotland, if one at all. We have that story too, those of us descending from Uriah Carson, the story was passed down to many family branches.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1690.1.1.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Gary, The John Carson you mention (John Daniel Carson, husband of Mary McFarland) was my 6th ggrandfather. I have him listed as born ca 1725-1730 in York co., PA and died ca 1790 in Rutherford co., NC. Alexander Harvey Carson is thought to be a 7th ggrand uncle.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1749.1 Message Board Post: Hi Sandy, Do you have a male Carson relative who can do the YDNA test? That might be a major benefit in sorting out the Carson lines, especially since they seem to use the same first names. I finally did it and have two perfect matches. Here's a link to the Carson DNA home page. Click on Recruit button and it will take you to the testing service's website. I'm one of the "I" haplogroup participants on the Results link. http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/carson/index.html Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1690.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Hi Dan, The William Carson born c1802 Buncombe NC (married Lydia Crawford) is presumed to be a son of David Carson and wife Catherine of Buncombe NC 1800-1810 and Haywood NC 1820. These are my ancestors who seem to connect to Lancaster PA Carsons (William, David, Robert and John) who moved to NC then to Washington TN (the my David moved back to NC by 1800). In you posting, you mentioned Walter Carson going to Camden SC 1780. I recently completed the YDNA test and connect (perfect match) to a John Carson who came directly to SC 1767 (Craven district) and to a PA Carson line that connects to the Lancaster line of Alexander Harvey Carson. My assumed Carson line moved to Caswell/Orange (and possibly Guilford) NC 1770s, then to TN 1780s. The known first names included David, William, Robert, John, Moses, James, Alexander (brothers or cousins) and probably Samuel and Thomas as well. Do any of these connect to your lines? I'm trying to sort out the SC and PA origins. Thanks, Gary

This is Helen. On my side of family. Uriah 1743 + Mary Cook Children John, Bowater**,Sarah,Ruth,Uriah Jr. Bowater June 6, 1775 +Charity Pierce m. on Nov. 28, 1796 N.C. Children Hiram,Elisha,Sarah**,Charity,Cyrus,Jacob, Mary,Lucy,Wiliam Sarah b 1804 N.C. +James Hughey m on Feb. 15, 1821 in Highland Co. Ohio b. Mar 27, 1800 in Mason Ky. d. Sept 1831in Hamilton, Ind. Do not know where Sarah died but aft. 1828. Child Charity Hughey b. Dec 1, 1828 in Highland Co: Ohio d. Dec 21, 1898 Mound City, Mo. +Henry Kearnes m. on Oct. 29, 1850 Ohio b. Feb. 19, 1819 d. Oct. 28,1898 Children Virgil Clayton, twin who died, Austin,Ida, Clayton, Carrie, Frank,and Sherman Richard** Sherman Richard Karns b. 1864 d 1936+ Tacy Cordelia Schooley on Feb. 13, 1894 Children Clayton,Lloyd,Vern,Dwight,Gerald**,Macil,Dale,Lucille,Eloise,Morris,Dorothy Gerald Schooley Karns 1907+ Marie Pace on May 12,1933 Children 1st Helen **(me) WHo was Uriah's father. was he b in Ireland or N.C. Was he the son of William b 1715 and Eleanor Jane McDuff whose father was Alexander Harvey Carson? On my husband side of family Payton Carson b.May 14,1830 in Va d. 1892 + Elizabeth E. Erwin m abt 1858 in WVa. Children Elias C. Carson **b 1858 in WVa, Virginia Louise b.Va. ,Flora b in Illnois. Elias C.+ Emily M. McIntosh on Sept 25, 1884 in Warren Co. Ia.( He went on a gold strike and left country and never heard from again( in Canada I think he went.) Children William Tecumseh**, Payton,Mae R.,Rosie D.,Earl B.,Blanche William Tecumseh b.1886 d 1944+ Flora Flossie Chumbley on Feb. 16, 1913 Children Lela Mae,Eva Berniece,Louise Fern**, and Charle Dean Louise Fern Carson 1917 + Guy L. Holden on Oct 6,1933 Children Ron,Merlin,Richard** and Phyllis. Do you know who the parents of Payton Carson were: Have been curious about these Carson families? Thanks for any help.

Phillip Lawson wrote: >[email protected] wrote: > > > >>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >>Surnames: Carson, Sowder, Griffin, Holman, Owens >>Classification: Query >> >>Message Board URL: >> >>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1.1.3.1 >> >>Message Board Post: >> >>David, >> >>My oldest documented Carson is the David Carson, b. 1741, of Abingdon, Virginia. >> >>http://www.theradkes.com/Carson3.htm >> >>I have Carson cousins who can claim a male only direct line back to him. (The last male in our grandparent's generation just passed away.) >> >>I could ask one of them to test, but at this stage I'm not sure of the cost/benefit. >> >>Jerry Radke >>Harrisburg, PA >> >>_______________________________________________ >>CARSON mailing list >>[email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >Check the Thomas Carson line of early Va. Phil >_______________________________________________ >CARSON mailing list >[email protected] > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Thomas Carson of Va. goes back to the French and Indian wars. Phillip

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARSON, WHITAKER, COOK, WARREN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1702.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Most of my Carson/Dillingham ancestors lived on the Haw Branch. This would include William Carson and his father James Carson, Sr. The following creeks and branches are shown in the Barnardsville area: Ivy Creek (Buckner Branch, Whitmore Branch), Sugar Creek, North Fork Creek (Poverty Branch, Burlison Branch), Martin Creek, Paint Fork Creek, Dillingham Creek (Williams Branch, Haw Branch, Rye Cove Branch).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jerry, For Carson YDNA information go to this link, the click on the Recruiting tab at the top. That takes you to Family Tree DNA who is doing most of the Carson tests. Thanks, Gary http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/carson/index.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2 Message Board Post: Jerry, DNA can really help bring these family trees together. Take a look at what has begun at Family Tree DNA. http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/carson/pats.html If we could get at least one male Carson from each of these 1700s lines to test, we might be able to tie our lines together. There is a cost, but you can start with the $99 test and if you have a match to your 12 markers, you can then upgrade to a more involved test. Of course, it is cheaper to start with the higher test. At least there IS a Carson group, so you can get that discount. I see you have a Carson web page with a lot of info. Do you mind if I link it to our Carson DNA site? I'd like to have some strong family pages like yours on there.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Gary, Send me directions on what to do and I will forward them to my cousin. (He is not active in genealogy.) Jerry

[email protected] wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Carson, Sowder, Griffin, Holman, Owens >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1.1.3.1 > >Message Board Post: > >David, > >My oldest documented Carson is the David Carson, b. 1741, of Abingdon, Virginia. > >http://www.theradkes.com/Carson3.htm > >I have Carson cousins who can claim a male only direct line back to him. (The last male in our grandparent's generation just passed away.) > >I could ask one of them to test, but at this stage I'm not sure of the cost/benefit. > >Jerry Radke >Harrisburg, PA > >_______________________________________________ >CARSON mailing list >[email protected] > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Check the Thomas Carson line of early Va. Phil

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson, Sowder, Griffin, Holman, Owens Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1.1.3.1 Message Board Post: David, My oldest documented Carson is the David Carson, b. 1741, of Abingdon, Virginia. http://www.theradkes.com/Carson3.htm I have Carson cousins who can claim a male only direct line back to him. (The last male in our grandparent's generation just passed away.) I could ask one of them to test, but at this stage I'm not sure of the cost/benefit. Jerry Radke Harrisburg, PA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1702.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Susan, I'm trying to sort out some stray Carsons in Buncombe and Haywood NC deeds to see which is any connect to my David and to your Carson-Dillingham line. What locations and creeks were your Carsons on and what were the various names? John Carson from State of NC 1794, 200a on Cane Creek #884 Charles Carson 1816 (name pops up in a record) David M. Carson 1834 State of NC 20a on Mud Creek Joseph Carson attorney for estate of Andrew McClure 1818 George Carson bought horse from estate of James Belk 1826 William Carson from state of NC 1815 100a on Round Hill Branch John Carson bouth items from Gideon Norton estate 1827 (and Hiram Dillingham did too) Thanks, Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Jerry, Hi again. I think I may have mentioned this in an earlier posting (not sure). I got my YDNA 37 marker test results back recently (finally did it). There were two exact Carson matches that had done the 12 marker...one is upgrading to 37 to see if it still matches. These results indicate the following: My Carson line from Lancaster PA connects to the phantom Alexander Harvey Carson line of Scotland (based on one of the 2 other matches also connecting to him). That was a working theory supported by circumstantial findings but because so many Carson family trees claim his sons/grandsons as theirs, I've not tried to prove that connection. Us 3 that matched are the only Carson line so far from the I Haplogroup (I indicates a Viking/Nordic ancestor). All the others who have done the YDNA so far are from the more common R Haplogroup (western European). The results seem to reconfirm my earlier findings of my ancestor being one of the Carsons from Lancaster PA who moved together to Caswell/Orange NC (or Guilford), then moved to Washington TN in the 1780s. These Carsons were: David Carson - Sarah Woods m1753 Robert Carson - Margaret Woods m1755 William Carson - Margaret McCord m1760 Moses Carson - Elizabeth Hannah m1762 (approx) David or William are the most likely ancestor of my younger David born c1760 because I know they both had sons named David. Moses didn't, and I don't think Robert did either. A John Carson and Alexander Carson were also in Caswell/Orange earlier in the 1750s and connect circumstantially to the Lancaster bunch. I would like to see all Carson lines find a male Carson relative to do the YDNA. It seems to be worth it. Do you have a candidate to do the test? Gary

Do any of you Carson experts know of the relationship between the Maxwell and Carson families....early 1700s I know of Henry Maxwell m Agnes Carson and Nathanial Maxwell m Esther Carson.... Am specifcally looking for connection to Elizabeth Carson m William Jesse Maxwell of NC to Tenn (late 1700s)....supposedly Elizabeth was the daughter of Lindsay Carson of NC..... Can anyone help put these families together? Don Maxwell [email protected] Maxwell DNA study http://hometown.aol.com/dnamaxwell/myhomepage/index.html Thomas Maxwell Worldconnect: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=donmaxwell&id=I06185

I have been looking for a Margaret Carson who married a John Reed in the late 1700s Guilford Co..... adjacent to Orange Co..... I wonder if one of your Carson may have married a Margaret? and the Carson male died. I have had no luck in finding this Margaret Carson.... however she did name a son Carson Reed, so it is probably more likely her maiden name was Carson, not a married name. The name Pate was also used.... any connections with your Carson's and a Pate? family? Patricia

Hi Helen, I can't determine from your message what is being asked. It just sends a message requesting an update on Uriah. I've been researching the Carson line that moved from from Lancaster PA to Orange/Caswell NC. This is possibly the same line as the Uriah Carson line (if his father or grandfather was William of NC). David, William and Moses Carson moved to Orange/Caswell 1770s and apparently connect to Alexander and James who were already in Orange/Caswell. Alexander and James seem to be brothers. An older Alexander Carson's will in 1775 Orange NC listed sons John, Alexander, James and Samuel. The younger Alexander Carson is the one who died 1791 Orange, and James Carson died 1806 Orange NC (apparently sons of the older Alexander). Alexander (the younger) had sons named Robert and Samuel. James had sons named Robert A. and David. The older Alexander, Robert and John Carson arrived in Orange/Caswell 1755-1765. Robert seems to be a brother or cousin of David, William and/or Moses from Lancaster PA because Robert and David married Woods sisters back in Lancaster. Moses married a sister in law of the Woods sisters. These Alexanders and James likely descend from the Alexander Harvey Carson line. Have you had a male Carson relative do the YDNA test? My results suggest that these connections to this Lancaster group. My ancestor is one of those who moved down to Orange/Caswell (still sorting that out). Gary