This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Allen, Brown, Carson, Swaim Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1717.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Cyrus B. ALLEN married Susannah BROWN 22 OCT 1849 in Vigo County, Indiana. Cyrus B. ALLEN appointed guardian of John M. CARSON 15 FEB 1871, Fountain Co. IND. (John M. CARSON was son of John CARSON and Huldah SWAIM. John CARSON, Sr. d. 1865; Huldah died 1870.) Cyrus B. ALLEN living in Lebanon, Boone Co. IND, on 1880 Census: Cyrus ALLEN, 57, b. OH; Susan, wife, 47, b. OH; Charles, son, 23, b. IND and John M. CARSON, ward, 15, b. IND. Rev. Cyrus B. ALLEN died15 MAR 1916 Lebanon, Indiana (Boone Co. IND) and is buried in Terre Haute, Indiana (Vigo Co. IND.) I do not know the cemetery. Was Cyrus B. ALLEN related to the CARSON or SWAIM families?

I also wanted to mention that you can do the 12 marker for $99 (group price) and then upgrade if you want to, which you would if you had exact 12/12 matches, as that would refine the relationship. Gary has a 25/25 match now and waiting on the last set of the 37. If they match 37/37, both of them will probably consider the 67 upgrade, which is as high as it gets. Now, I'm NOT an expert at this, but a complete 67 match is only going to be a couple generations away from the common ancestor. Anyway, I'm going to do the "layaway" plan and do the 12 first, then upgrade, and maybe upgrade again. Yes, you can pay for someone else's test, all females need to do that. I'm paying for my father's. It is recommended to do the oldest generation that you can. It must be a male Carson that got his surname from a male Carson, all the way back as far as you know it. If one male in the chain was adopted or took his surname from his mother, then his Y-DNA is NOT Carson. --- Sheila Pool <[email protected]> wrote: > Another Carson descendant here......I would like to > know more about the price, etc.

I paid $189 (plus tax because I'm in Texas) for the 37 marker YDNA test. The 12 marker basic test is about $99 but is less accurate. I did the 37 marker which, if there's a match, indicates a much closer link. The Carson DNA site has a link to the Family Tree DNA service that performs the tests. Here's a link to the Carson DNA website. From there, you can click on "Recruitment" to go to the test service to sign up for the YDNA test (or other tests). http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/carson/rec.html Gary

MY Carson's, James, father of John E was a retired boiler Maker, father of Park, Samuel, Timae, Roy Genevieve & Helen , father of Harold and Vernon. John also had a brother Irve. Harold was my father and had Patsy, Sandy and Kit. James and John started out in PA as so many other Carson's did, and having a hard time locating them in PA. Have a lot of WA. info. as that's where they eventually landed I do have spouses and children. Anyone recognize these Carson's? Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Pool" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson DNA[Scanned] > Another Carson descendant here......I would like to know more about the > price, etc. > > My gggrandfather was Charles Carson, born 8/29/1805 in SC and married Lucy > McCarthy on 6/13/1832....they had five children: > James F. Carson; William Carson; Margarite Carson; Martin McHugh "Mack" > Carson; Charles "Charlie" Jefferson Carson (my ggrandfather) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Geri Baze > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson DNA[Scanned] > > > I, too, am a Carson descendent. My g-grandmother was Lucy Carson (b. > mid-1800s), married to John Robert Eldridge. I understand that my Lucy > Carson was a niece to Christopher Kit Carson, but I haven't > substantiated that yet. Where, if possible, might I go to access the > DNA results page? Is it possible for any Carson descendent to access > it? Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Stephanie Carson Feldman > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:02 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CARSON] Carson DNA[Scanned] > > I just wanted to state that neither Gary or I gain any > money from this DNA research! Gary is just as he > states and I answered the call to be a co-coordinator > for the site, seeing as I was born a Carson. I have > been emailing those who have done their DNA and put > their pedigrees on line and worked with Terry Barton > to update the DNA results page. I've also started > working on adding some source material to those lines > that have already been tested. > > Gain money from this, hmm, I hesitate to assign a > number to how much time and money I've put into my own > research, several thousand I am sure. Gained money? > Not one time! Gained answers, ancestors, cousins, and > friends? Plenty! > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Another Carson descendant here......I would like to know more about the price, etc. My gggrandfather was Charles Carson, born 8/29/1805 in SC and married Lucy McCarthy on 6/13/1832....they had five children: James F. Carson; William Carson; Margarite Carson; Martin McHugh "Mack" Carson; Charles "Charlie" Jefferson Carson (my ggrandfather) ----- Original Message ----- From: Geri Baze To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson DNA[Scanned] I, too, am a Carson descendent. My g-grandmother was Lucy Carson (b. mid-1800s), married to John Robert Eldridge. I understand that my Lucy Carson was a niece to Christopher Kit Carson, but I haven't substantiated that yet. Where, if possible, might I go to access the DNA results page? Is it possible for any Carson descendent to access it? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephanie Carson Feldman Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CARSON] Carson DNA[Scanned] I just wanted to state that neither Gary or I gain any money from this DNA research! Gary is just as he states and I answered the call to be a co-coordinator for the site, seeing as I was born a Carson. I have been emailing those who have done their DNA and put their pedigrees on line and worked with Terry Barton to update the DNA results page. I've also started working on adding some source material to those lines that have already been tested. Gain money from this, hmm, I hesitate to assign a number to how much time and money I've put into my own research, several thousand I am sure. Gained money? Not one time! Gained answers, ancestors, cousins, and friends? Plenty! _______________________________________________ CARSON mailing list [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________________ CARSON mailing list [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So sorry my Carson/Reed connection is in the Carolinas late 1700s, believe my lines came in from PA and no further North. Patricia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson, Gregg, Keown, Stewart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1758 Message Board Post: Here's a CARSON clue. Hope it helps someone. Does anybody recognize this line? Mary STEWART married a CARSON (first name unknown) Mary STEWART's brothers and sisters were: John STEWART, died by 1827; administration in Fountain Co. Indiana says he was of Wabash Co. Indiana. James STEWART, d. 1835; wife Mary; 3 children: James C.; Charles; and Jane who m. James GREGG Robert STEWART Samuel STEWART Isabel STEWART, married a KEOWN (his first name unknown) I'm guessing that Mary STEWART and her siblings were born ca. 1785-1800. Sources: 1. Fountain Co. Indiana Court Records (a reference book of abstracts) items 7:189 and 7:193. 2. Administration of John STEWART, 1827, Fountain Co. Indiana Probate Book 1, Page 1-4 and continued in Book 6, Page 577-578. 2. 1850 Census Fountain Co. Indiana, Shawnee Twp.: Dwelling 155, Family 155 Charley STEWART 37, b. OH (probably son of James STEWART and Mary) Julia STEWART 27, b. OH James C. STEWART 8, b. IND Stephen R. STEWART 6, b. IND William H. STEWART 1, b. IND Charley STEWART 9, b. IND (prob. Charley's nephew, orphaned son of James C. STEWART) May/Mary STEWART 60, b. SC/NC (prob. Charley's mother.) Martha AILS 21, birthplace not listed Note: As far as I know, I am not related to this family, and I don't have any other information on them. However, I am especially interested in this CARSON connection. I appreciate any clues or ideas. Regards, JAN

In a message dated 10/9/2006 11:13:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, H [email protected] writes:any reeds in this group? My ggrandfathere WILLLIAM CARSON, who married Sarah Carson in Boston in the 1800s, came from County Tyrone also in the 1800s. They raised their four children, Harold, Roberta, Frank and Don. in the Boston area of Massachusetts. According to a cousin, a sibling of either William or Sarah was Elizabeth Reed. I believe Elizabeth Reed, who had a daughter also named Elizabeth Reed, worked in a bank in Dorchester or Roxbury MA. It is an ongoing source of regret that I have failed miserably the task of finding other Carson cousins in Massachusetts or even in New England. Siblings of Sarah and William are reported to be in Pennsylvania and Connecticut and are associated with the surnames of CRAWFORD and PHELPS. Sadly, I have no further information on ELIZABETH REED, except a census or two. Like so many family historian wannabees, I wasn't serious about genealogy until key family members were dead or couldn't remember. If I could find a cousin with WILLIAM CARSON I have some information, including marriage and funeral certificate, work history with the City of Boston over thirty years, his will, burial information, census records, a conjecture that he came from Fintona , Couny Tyrone and photos. I know much less about his wife, Sarah, except that either she, or her mother, Mary Erwin, might have been a school teacher in Amagh before she came to the U.S. I'm happy to share what I do have. Thanks, Sandy Holmes, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Fairhaven, MA

> Hi All, This has been a busy week for Carson names so thought I would put mine on here and see if anyone recognizes any of them. James Carson, B Penn/ Married to Sarah Edminston. Parents of John John Edmonston Carson, B Nov. 13,1855 in Penn.Died Sept. 12, 1933, buried New Tacoma Cemetery/ Married to Mary Elizabeth McCreath John & Mary lived at 4919 South Asotin, Tacoma, WA Their Children were. Timae/ Born Sept. 19,1902, Died Oct 1986 Tacoma/Married O. W. Ball Park Edward Carson, born mar. 17, 1897 Albuquerque, NM. Died Dec. 1965, Tacoma, WA/Married to Helen Verna "Bunny" Straugh/ 2nd married name was Webb Jennie F. Carson born Nov. 1886, Kansas/ Her married name was Genevieve Houston, Tacoma James R. Born Aug. 1889, Iowa Helen Born Aug. 1894, New Mexico. Married name Erickson Samuel A. Born July 1899, Washington/Died Mar. 6, 1960 Seattle Roy J. Parke Edward Carson, Married to / Helen Verna Straugh "Bunny" Parents of My father, Harold Parke Carson, Born Jan. 9, 1917, Died Aug. 31, 1947 He was a jockey and was critically injured and died/ Married Bebe J. Collins, Parents of Patsy, Sandra and Kit M. Vernon E. Carson, Born Feb. 10,1915/Died in Yakima Dec. 1965 Have much more but this is a start if anyone recognizes any of the names, would love to find a live relative as I would like to have some pictures and share information. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

No. Andrew Carson died in 1841 in Iredell County NC. His son, Andrew Washington Carson, died in 1862 in Henry County TN. I have visited both of their gravesites. Thanks for checking, though. Suzie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peggy Tilley Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON Suzie, I have my Carson family back to an Andrew Carson who died 1837 in Marshall Co., Ms. He married Sarah Howard, probably in Al. I know of 5 children: Mary Ann (Carson) Knight, William Stewart Carson, Margaret Jane (Carson) Bailey, Elizabeth C. Carson (Woolley and John W. Carson. Could this possibly be the same Andrew Carson? Peggy Tilley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzie Ball" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON >I am a first cousin 5 times removed from Kit Carson. If Lindsey Carson, >his > father, is the brother of my Andrew Carson as is generally accepted, then > I > can prove my connection. Andrew and Lindsey were the sons of William > Carson > who lived in Iredell Co NC. Andrew Carson died in Iredell Co NC and his > family is well documented there. His brother, Lindsey moved to KY. > Andrew's son, Andrew Washington Carson, moved to Henry County TN were > members of my family still own the property and cemetery which has been in > the family since the early 1800's. Kit was Andrew Washington Carson's > first > cousin. I am A W's third great granddaughter. > Suzie Morris Ball > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > > Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:57 AM > > Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:34 AM > > It is th OPINION of many Carsons that all are related > > As I understand the Carsons: > > The Carson Family was originally Scottish, moved to Ireland, moved to back > to Scotland and the to Ireland the second time. After this they spread > out > to Canada, the USA and beyound. > > Yes, we are all related to Kit Carson, although it may be a very slim and > distant connection and not provable > > Carson City Nevada is named after the Carson Family > > Do a Google search for "Sir Edward Carson" > > The Carson's in Ireland (my family included) are Protestent. > > Check < http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/carson.htm > > and a quote from that web page: > > Sir Edward Henry Carson (1854-1935) led the paramilitary Ulster Volunteer > Force in opposing Home Rule plans for the whole of Ireland, eventually > succeeding in ensuring Northern Ireland remained part of the union. > > End quote > > Thus our Carson Family is resonsible for the break up of Ireland into the > North and South of today > > My Carsons > > My Carsons are around the Barrie Ontario area and the problem I have found > is that there are too many Willism Carsons in my family without middle > names. Some are very stond Anti-Catholic > > Regards Al > > > > In <[email protected]>, on 10/08/2006 > at 09:06 AM, "John & Carolyn Carson" <[email protected]> said: > > > >>Gary, > >>Do you have any information on your family back in either Ireland or >>Scotland? Our family is from the John Carson who came to SC in 1767, and >>like many, we have the legend of being related to Kit Carson. It seems to >>me that the connection has to be made in Ireland or Scotland. > >>Carolyn Carson >>Greencastle, IN > > >>_______________________________________________ >>CARSON mailing list >>[email protected] > >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > > (\__/) > (='.'=) This is Bunny. > (")_(") > > Copy and paste bunny into your > signature to help him gain world domination. > > > ***************************************** > * Alan Townsend Sechelt, BC Canada > * > * E-Mail: [email protected] > * Home Page: > * Tel: (604) 885-0943 > * > * Mr2 Ice: Reg #582 > ***************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________________ CARSON mailing list [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Josette L. Maxwell wrote: > Several years ago - seven/eight? - when this Alexander Harvey > Carson "line" was set forth, a number of the Carson researchers > (with decades of experience in genealogy) managed to track down > the originator of the information - a guy in Arizona. He was repeatedly > contacted and asked for evidence/documentation/verification of > the information cited by him. He absolutely refused to do so. > Further, people started trying to verify themselves and there exists > nothing that supports his whole myth in terms of linage although > there was information on specific individuals at specific times, i.e. > there was a Rev. Alexander Carson (if I remember correctly) > who was in Scotland at one time. Can you be more specific? What are the names of the people, including the one in Arizona; what publications contain their results? -- Thomas M. Sommers -- [email protected] -- AB2SB

Suzie, I have my Carson family back to an Andrew Carson who died 1837 in Marshall Co., Ms. He married Sarah Howard, probably in Al. I know of 5 children: Mary Ann (Carson) Knight, William Stewart Carson, Margaret Jane (Carson) Bailey, Elizabeth C. Carson (Woolley and John W. Carson. Could this possibly be the same Andrew Carson? Peggy Tilley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzie Ball" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON >I am a first cousin 5 times removed from Kit Carson. If Lindsey Carson, >his > father, is the brother of my Andrew Carson as is generally accepted, then > I > can prove my connection. Andrew and Lindsey were the sons of William > Carson > who lived in Iredell Co NC. Andrew Carson died in Iredell Co NC and his > family is well documented there. His brother, Lindsey moved to KY. > Andrew's son, Andrew Washington Carson, moved to Henry County TN were > members of my family still own the property and cemetery which has been in > the family since the early 1800's. Kit was Andrew Washington Carson's > first > cousin. I am A W's third great granddaughter. > Suzie Morris Ball > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > > Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:57 AM > > Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:34 AM > > It is th OPINION of many Carsons that all are related > > As I understand the Carsons: > > The Carson Family was originally Scottish, moved to Ireland, moved to back > to Scotland and the to Ireland the second time. After this they spread > out > to Canada, the USA and beyound. > > Yes, we are all related to Kit Carson, although it may be a very slim and > distant connection and not provable > > Carson City Nevada is named after the Carson Family > > Do a Google search for "Sir Edward Carson" > > The Carson's in Ireland (my family included) are Protestent. > > Check < http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/carson.htm > > and a quote from that web page: > > Sir Edward Henry Carson (1854-1935) led the paramilitary Ulster Volunteer > Force in opposing Home Rule plans for the whole of Ireland, eventually > succeeding in ensuring Northern Ireland remained part of the union. > > End quote > > Thus our Carson Family is resonsible for the break up of Ireland into the > North and South of today > > My Carsons > > My Carsons are around the Barrie Ontario area and the problem I have found > is that there are too many Willism Carsons in my family without middle > names. Some are very stond Anti-Catholic > > Regards Al > > > > In <[email protected]>, on 10/08/2006 > at 09:06 AM, "John & Carolyn Carson" <[email protected]> said: > > > >>Gary, > >>Do you have any information on your family back in either Ireland or >>Scotland? Our family is from the John Carson who came to SC in 1767, and >>like many, we have the legend of being related to Kit Carson. It seems to >>me that the connection has to be made in Ireland or Scotland. > >>Carolyn Carson >>Greencastle, IN > > >>_______________________________________________ >>CARSON mailing list >>[email protected] > >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > > (\__/) > (='.'=) This is Bunny. > (")_(") > > Copy and paste bunny into your > signature to help him gain world domination. > > > ***************************************** > * Alan Townsend Sechelt, BC Canada > * > * E-Mail: [email protected] > * Home Page: > * Tel: (604) 885-0943 > * > * Mr2 Ice: Reg #582 > ***************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, I have enjoyed the e-mails coming through. Just wish I could connect my female CARSON to one of your lines. I've posted what little I know about my CARSON line before but thought I would try again. Annie CARSON would be one of my 3rd great paternal grandmothers. According to the 1850 Jefferson Twp., Allegheny Co., Pa Census, Annie would be born about 1794 in Pa. Annie married Henry GREGG. From GREGG family genealogy we learned that Henry was born May 16, 1794 in Northern Ireland. Annie and Henry's marriage date was Oct 11, 1818 in Derry Twp. Westmoreland Co., Pa. This information came from Westmoreland County Marriages & Deaths from Weekly Newspapers 1818-1865 Vol. 1 by Fischer, Gregg, Henry & Ann Carson both Derry Twp. married 10-22-1818 by John Shaw Esq. (10-31-1818). No parents names were given. Sometime between the 1850 census and the 1860 census I loose Annie and Henry. I feel they must of died as I found all their children except James. GREGG genealogy says he died young. The following are Annie and Henry's children and the names of their spouses. Ane Maria GREGG born Dec 2, 1819 Pa died Feb 4, 1892 married Samuel C. WATSON Nancy Jane Gregg born 1826 Pa died Jan 30, 1892 married William Hoffman KING Margaret F. Gregg born Jan 13, 1828 Pa. died Oct 19, 1902 Pa married Aron WATSON Joseph Carson Gregg born 1829 Pa. died April 4, 1891 married Isabelle HANEY Emily H. Gregg born March 15, 1832 Pa died Oct 20, 1904 Allegheny Co., Pa married Adam Walton SMITH (my 2nd great paternal grandparents) Samuel T. Gregg born June 13, 1835 died 1915 married Eliza T. J. CRAVEN James Gregg Just a side note - My son, who doesn't pay a lot of attention to my genealogy, had a rock and roll band back in the 1990's. At that time he and his wife, before children, took snow skiing vacations to Colorado. The name Kit Carson is so popular where they would ski that he named his band Kit Carson. Lona Laughlin Boudreaux [email protected] Monroe, La Some family trees have beautiful leaves, but some just have a bunch of nuts. Remember it's the nuts that make the tree worth shaking

I am a first cousin 5 times removed from Kit Carson. If Lindsey Carson, his father, is the brother of my Andrew Carson as is generally accepted, then I can prove my connection. Andrew and Lindsey were the sons of William Carson who lived in Iredell Co NC. Andrew Carson died in Iredell Co NC and his family is well documented there. His brother, Lindsey moved to KY. Andrew's son, Andrew Washington Carson, moved to Henry County TN were members of my family still own the property and cemetery which has been in the family since the early 1800's. Kit was Andrew Washington Carson's first cousin. I am A W's third great granddaughter. Suzie Morris Ball -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of altow[email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:57 AM Sun, October 08, 2006 - 06:34 AM It is th OPINION of many Carsons that all are related As I understand the Carsons: The Carson Family was originally Scottish, moved to Ireland, moved to back to Scotland and the to Ireland the second time. After this they spread out to Canada, the USA and beyound. Yes, we are all related to Kit Carson, although it may be a very slim and distant connection and not provable Carson City Nevada is named after the Carson Family Do a Google search for "Sir Edward Carson" The Carson's in Ireland (my family included) are Protestent. Check < http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/carson.htm > and a quote from that web page: Sir Edward Henry Carson (1854-1935) led the paramilitary Ulster Volunteer Force in opposing Home Rule plans for the whole of Ireland, eventually succeeding in ensuring Northern Ireland remained part of the union. End quote Thus our Carson Family is resonsible for the break up of Ireland into the North and South of today My Carsons My Carsons are around the Barrie Ontario area and the problem I have found is that there are too many Willism Carsons in my family without middle names. Some are very stond Anti-Catholic Regards Al In <[email protected]>, on 10/08/2006 at 09:06 AM, "John & Carolyn Carson" <[email protected]> said: >Gary, >Do you have any information on your family back in either Ireland or >Scotland? Our family is from the John Carson who came to SC in 1767, and >like many, we have the legend of being related to Kit Carson. It seems to >me that the connection has to be made in Ireland or Scotland. >Carolyn Carson >Greencastle, IN >_______________________________________________ >CARSON mailing list >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message -- (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. (")_(") Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination. ***************************************** * Alan Townsend Sechelt, BC Canada * * E-Mail: [email protected] * Home Page: * Tel: (604) 885-0943 * * Mr2 Ice: Reg #582 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ CARSON mailing list [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1757 Message Board Post: There was a recent posting (can't find it now) that some think all Carsons in the US are related and connect to Kit Carson. The YDNA results of those Carson males who have tested so far indicate otherwise. There are actually two distinct lines (genetically) of Carsons in the US. One is from the "R" western European haplogroup (with variations within that group) and the other line is from the "I" Nordic (Viking or Scandinavian) haplogroup. The "R" group is much more common that the "I" group in Britain. According to genetic experts, these two lines are not genetically related unless we go back thousands of years. One of those from the I haplogroup says they connect to the Kit Carson line. I've not seen details confirming that connection. One or some from the R haplogroup may also say they connect. My main goal right now is to trace my ancestry with as much supporting data as possible. Who knows what may turn up! Gary

Hi Patricia, The name was spelled Reed on the marriage record in Guilford 1779. Back then last names changed randomly, partly due to a lack of spelling skills of census takers and of the people in general. Also, they often spelled it like it sounded. Also, some records are transcribed and the person couldn't read the handwriting. Some branches ended up one way while others went a different direction, even from the same ancestor line. For example, the "Strain" surname was sometimes spelled Strayhorn, Strahan, Strane and Strain, all from the same ancestor line. My Wilkie/Wilkey line shows up spelled Willkie, Willkey, Wilkin, Wilken, Wilkins and even Williams. The Bailey line was spelled Baley, Bailie, Bailey, Bayley, etc. My Custis line shows up sometimes as Curtis. Owens was spelled Owen, Owing, Owin, etc. A Carrington branch ended up Carrigan, apparently due to the census taker's error. Evolving spelling makes it a challenge to say the least! Gary

Margaret is in my line as well. I have two Reed lines in NC late 1700s have tried to connect them and do feel they are connect in as they all moved into middle TN early 1800s. And one of these lines I believe is connected to the Alexander Reid/Reed line in Rowan Co. By the way the only way Reed was spelled in the early records at the NC Archives is Reid. Do you know if or when your/my Reed changed their spelling? Patricia

Patricia, I've discussed Carson connections with quite a few surnames, so I'm not sure if we compared notes before or not. Your posting only asked the surname Reid/Reed with no details so I couldn't tell where or when they connected to a Carson line. Margaret Carson married John Reed 1779 in Guilford NC. Margaret seems to connect to my Carson line in that area, either a daughter or niece....not sure yet. Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1753.1.1 Message Board Post: Kim, The participant in the YDNA has to be a male Carson who got his surname from the father's side all the way back (if the test is being done to find a Carson surname connection that is). That's because the Y chromosome is passed only from male to male regardless of the surname the son uses. The cost was $189 for the 37 marker I did. The basic 12 marker I think is $99 and the 25 marker is somewhere in between. Gary