This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1768.1 Message Board Post: Here's the site for the Pedigrees of those who have taken the test. There's more info on the discussion boards too. Feel free to post your line as well. You can look at the results page to see how closely some of the lines are related. So far, most of the lines are connecting prior to 1750 in Ireland/Scotland and the paper trail is not there. http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/c/carson/pats.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: carson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1768 Message Board Post: gary, what carson lines are you related to per your DNA test ? i have contacted you awhile back abt your david carson line. i suspect my line is connected to the david carson-mary burke line. could you give me the web address for the carson DNA project if there is one ? thanks, cindy carson mcclure

In recent correspondence I received word that the KYDOT is planning to widen the highway adjoining the above cemetery. The tombstones for William Carson, b 17 Feb 1772; d 1 Jan 1856 and his wife Elizabeth, b 16 Feb 1790; d 6 Aug 1835, have been moved to the East End Cemetery in Cadiz, KY. Interested folks should contact the genealogist at KYDOT. ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!

Eugene, There was a David McCarson family living a few households away from my David Carson in 1800 Buncombe County. My line was always plain Carson. However, my David Carson had a grandson named "David M. Carson"....speculate the "M" stood for Mathew, and uncle's name. It gets confusing. It sounds like somebody in Scotland that was a son of Carson started using the "Mc" prefix. It's redundant in a way to be a "son" and a "Mac" or "Mc", assuming those designated a male child. I would guess the surname is more recent. Gary Carson In a message dated 11/1/2006 12:27:27 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: With all the recent activity on the Carson lines,....thought I might generate some comments / feedback from anyone who might have any idea or information related to the transition of any Carsons to the McCarson surname. Thanks, Eugene Summers Madisonville, KY

With all the recent activity on the Carson lines,....thought I might generate some comments / feedback from anyone who might have any idea or information related to the transition of any Carsons to the McCarson surname. Thanks, Eugene Summers Madisonville, KY This Email has been scanned for viruses, courtesy of Tnets.net

Hi, This email was a follow up to a previous email where we were discussing Carsons in Ireland and Ayrshire, Scotland, who immigrated to Canada in the early 20th C. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "CB & Edie Fletcher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON (Rootsweb) > What state are you talking about for the William Carson? My > g-g-g-grandfather was William. I am lead to believe he came to Northwest > Virginia (West Virginia) from Maryland. > Edie Fletcher > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Brannon" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:31 PM > Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON (Rootsweb) > > >> You wrote: >> >> " I mentioned that my Robert >> Carson named his son John. John in turn named his oldest child after >> himself, and the next male child was called William." >> >> >> Shirley, >> >> My gr-gr-grandfather was named John Carson. I'm wondering if this >> could possibly be the same John you mention as the son of your John? >> My gr-grandfather's name was William Carson. So, those two names fit. >> >> My John was born in 1851 and my William in 1880. Can you tell me >> more about yours? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> Virginia, USA >> _______________________________________________ >> CARSON mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/509 - Release Date: >> 10/31/2006 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

What state are you talking about for the William Carson? My g-g-g-grandfather was William. I am lead to believe he came to Northwest Virginia (West Virginia) from Maryland. Edie Fletcher [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brannon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON (Rootsweb) > You wrote: > > " I mentioned that my Robert > Carson named his son John. John in turn named his oldest child after > himself, and the next male child was called William." > > > Shirley, > > My gr-gr-grandfather was named John Carson. I'm wondering if this > could possibly be the same John you mention as the son of your John? > My gr-grandfather's name was William Carson. So, those two names fit. > > My John was born in 1851 and my William in 1880. Can you tell me > more about yours? > > Thanks, > Steve > Virginia, USA > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.21/509 - Release Date: > 10/31/2006 > >

Hi Joe, Thanks for posting the details. I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to do more research but will post anything I find when I do. You might find a genealogy library in your area. They sometimes have good sources. Thanks, Gary

JOHN WAS BORN NOV. 13,1855 MARY McCREATH CARSON BORN JULY 7,1862 AND WAS BORN OAKWOOD TOWNSHIP IN THE COUNTY OF VERMILLION. I KIND OF WONDER IF HER MOTHER DIED OR MAYBE FATHER AND THE KIDS WERE PUT IN DIFFERENT HOMES TO WORK. SO SHE WAS 7 ALMOST 8 YEARS YOUNGER THAN JOHN I BELIEVE THAT IN THE 1900 WASHINGTON CENSUS THEY HAD BEEN MARRIED FOR 16 YEARS SO IT WOULD PUT THEIR MARRIAGE DATE ABOUT 1884. GENEVIEVE F. WAS THE FIRST CHILD BORN IN 1886 NOV. IN KANSAS /13 YEARS OLD 1900 WA CENSUS THEY MAY HAVE HAD A CHILD BEFORE THEY LEFT PA. THAT MAY NOT HAVE SURVIVED. BUT DON'T KNOW YET. THEN THERE WAS: JAMES R BORN 1889 IOWA/AGE 10 HELEN 1894 NEW MEXICO/AGE 5 PARK EDWARD , ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO (MY GRANDFATHER)/AGE SAMUEL, JULY1899 WASHINGTON SORRY IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO GET BACK TO YOU. HAD TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OTHER MATTERS BEFORE I COULD GET BACK TO GENEALOGY. HOPE YOU DIDN'T LOOSE INTEREST SANDY ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson's in PA > It's my Sarah, as I have some of that info. > I have to go thru my file as it seems like someone helped me figure out > when > John and Mary got married. > Will get back to you on it. > Whoopee, Sandy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson's in PA > > >> Sandy, >> >> When and where did John and Mary E. marry? Where was she born? Did John >> have a prior marriage? What were their children's names and when were >> they born? >> With common names, it helps to have some parameters. >> >> In 1860 Centre, Walker PA is James Carson 38 (teamster), Sarah 34, John >> 5, >> Cordelia 3 and Mary E. 6/12 all born in PA. >> >> In 1870, the family is in Centre, Patton PA as James 47, Sarah J. 44, >> John >> 14, Cordelia 12, Mary E 10, Harvey 7, Irwin 4 and Eliza 1. James is a >> farmer >> and John "works in farm." >> >> In 1880 Huntington, Franklin PA is James Carson 57, Sarah 53, Henry H 17, >> Irvine G 13, Eliza L 11. John is on his own somewhere else. >> >> Was Mary from Illinois? In 1880 is a Mary McCreath age 17 (servant, >> father >> born in Scotland) living with Sarah Oakwood 55 in Vermillion Illinois. >> In >> 1870, this same Mary McCreath 8 was living with Martin and Sarah Oakwood >> in the >> same county. >> >> Gary >> >> In a message dated 10/19/2006 3:33:52 PM Central Standard Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> Drat it! I don't think it was my Carson's as don't recognize names. >> He had a brothers Samuel and Irve. That I know of. >> My John was born Nov.13,1855. Mary was born July 7,1862 >> Don't know if it makes a difference but John was a Boilermaker >> That's what I mean about being so many John and James from PA >> Sandy >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:42 PM >> Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson's in PA >> >> >>> The 1850 census for Fayette PA shows John Carson age 30, born Ireland, a >>> laborer. He is living in what appears to be a rooming house with Thomas >>> Grant 35, >>> William Liane or Tiane 30, Thomas Quigley 37 all from Ireland and other >>> roomers. The head of household is Ephraim Butcher 71 and Mary Butcher >>> 64. >>> Below >>> is the text from the 1860 census from ancestry.com. >>> >>> >>> Name:Mary Carson >>> Age in 1860:15 >>> Birth Year:abt 1845 >>> Birthplace:Pennsylvania >>> Home in 1860:North Union, Fayette, Pennsylvania >>> Gender:Female >>> Post Office:Uniontown >>> Value of real estate:View Image >>> Household Members:NameAge >>> Wm Carson50 >>> Eliza Carson43 >>> Jno Carson26 >>> Mary Carson15 >>> Lucius Carson13 >>> Frances Carson10 >>> Ann E Carson9 >>> Lincoln L Carson6 >>> Fuller Carson2 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 10/18/2006 2:15:51 PM Central Standard Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> Was wondering if anyone has done a search in PA. for Carson's. >>> James was married to Sarah Edminston >>> I found that there are lots of John's and James (John was my paternal >>> great >>> grandfather and James was great great grandfather) >>> John E. Carson was born Nov. 13,1855 >>> Married to Mary Elizabeth McCreath. her father and mother were born in >>> Scotland, Mary's mother was Christine Arthur >>> Have a lot of info. but not in Pa. >>> Need a Federal Census for 1850 for John in Fayette Co. PA, Brownsville >>> Township >>> And 1860 Mary Carson North Union Township >>> >>> Would really appreciate a look up. >>> Sandy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CARSON mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CARSON mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the >> body of the message >> _______________________________________________ >> CARSON mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

>> > Hi All, > This has been a busy week for Carson names so thought I would put mine on > here and see if anyone recognizes any of them. > > James Carson, B Penn/ Married to Sarah Edminston. Parents of John > > John Edmonston Carson, B Nov. 13,1855 in Penn.Died Sept. 12, 1933, buried > New Tacoma Cemetery/ Married to Mary Elizabeth McCreath > John & Mary lived at 4919 South Asotin, Tacoma, WA > Their Children were. > Timae/ Born Sept. 19,1902, Died Oct 1986 Tacoma/Married O. W. Ball > Park Edward Carson, born mar. 17, 1897 Albuquerque, NM. Died Dec. 1965, > Tacoma, WA/Married to Helen Verna "Bunny" Straugh/ 2nd married name was > Webb > Jennie F. Carson born Nov. 1886, Kansas/ Her married name was Genevieve > Houston, Tacoma > James R. Born Aug. 1889, Iowa > Helen Born Aug. 1894, New Mexico. Married name Erickson > Samuel A. Born July 1899, Washington/Died Mar. 6, 1960 Seattle > Roy J. > > Parke Edward Carson, Married to / Helen Verna Straugh "Bunny" > Parents of > My father, Harold Parke Carson, Born Jan. 9, 1917, Died Aug. 31, 1947 He > was > a jockey and was critically injured and died/ Married Bebe J. Collins, > Parents of Patsy, Sandra and Kit M. > Vernon E. Carson, Born Feb. 10,1915/Died in Yakima Dec. 1965 > > Have much more but this is a start if anyone recognizes any of the names, > would love to find a live relative as I would like to have some pictures > and > share information. > > > >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

from Pennsylvania, then wandered thru Iowa, Kansas and New Mexico to Washington ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson DNA[Scanned] > MY Carson's, James, father of John E was a retired boiler Maker, father > of > Park, Samuel, Timae, Roy Genevieve & Helen , father of Harold and Vernon. > John also had a brother Irve. Harold was my father and had Patsy, Sandy > and > Kit. > James and John started out in PA as so many other Carson's did, and having > a > hard time locating them in PA. Have a lot of WA. info. as that's where > they > eventually landed > I do have spouses and children. > Anyone recognize these Carson's? > Sandy

You wrote: " I mentioned that my Robert Carson named his son John. John in turn named his oldest child after himself, and the next male child was called William." Shirley, My gr-gr-grandfather was named John Carson. I'm wondering if this could possibly be the same John you mention as the son of your John? My gr-grandfather's name was William Carson. So, those two names fit. My John was born in 1851 and my William in 1880. Can you tell me more about yours? Thanks, Steve Virginia, USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson, White Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1767 Message Board Post: I am not related, nor am I researching this family. I am simply posting this to assist you in your research. Torch Light and Public Advertiser Hagerstown, Maryland January 9, 1821 Married on Tuesday evening last, by Rev Mr. Lind, Mr. James O. Carson, Merchant, to Miss Rosanna M. White, both of this place.

Elaine - please email me at [email protected] Thanks Shirley -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elaine Carson Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON Hi Shirley, Elaine here again... What I was pondering but now realize I didn't make clear in my message to you, is that perhaps your ancestor William and my Robert were brothers? Our family also did not show imagination in naming the children, but handed down family names generation after generation for at least 200 years. Family names were: William, James, Robert, Hugh, John and George, as well as Agnes, Elizabeth, Jane, Janet, and Margaret. I mentioned that my Robert Carson named his son John. John in turn named his oldest child after himself, and the next male child was called William. Is there anything that you know about the life of your people that might connect them to mine? Elaine Vancouver, B.C., Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > Thank you, Josette, for stating this. I have enjoyed reading this > discussion. > > It is so tempting to look for ways to confirm what you suspect - > especially when the searching gets frustrating. I am not involved in > the DNA research and am somewhat cautious as to its actual value. My > scepticism always leads me to wonder if the most vigorous proponents > of anything might have a financial benefit from it. Also, it is sad > to see people given information that makes them optimistic/excited > about something when it is not really accurate. > > There are many of us who are finding dead ends in our Irish research - > but we keep trying - perhaps somewhere there is a tiny bit of > information that will help. > > Personally, I am having some difficulty with William Carson (born abt > 1787 in Fermanagh) and his wife Ann (born about 1787 in Leitrim). Many > of us here in Canada are descendents of this couple - as well as many > who are now in the U.S. And, as most of us have discovered, the > Carson families did not show much originality in naming their > children. > > Shirley Carson Johnson > British Columbia, Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Josette L. Maxwell > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > > > Several years ago - seven/eight? - when this Alexander Harvey Carson > "line" was set forth, a number of the Carson researchers (with decades > of experience in genealogy) managed to track down the originator of > the information - a guy in Arizona. He was repeatedly contacted and > asked for evidence/documentation/verification of the information cited > by him. He absolutely refused to do so. Further, people started trying > to verify themselves and there exists nothing that supports his whole > myth in terms of linage although there was information on specific > individuals at specific times, i.e. there was a Rev. Alexander Carson > (if I remember > correctly) who was in Scotland at one time. > > Genealogy data without evidence/documentation is mythology. > > With reference to the DNA testing, you can independently verify via > internet research that the process they are using can only establish a > linkage going back three or four generations, if that. The other form > of DNA testing is more accurate. Since everyone in the world > (according to some archeaologistis and geneticists) go back to "Lucy", > you're bound to find some linkages. With respect to establishing > genalogical proof, it is totally worthless. It's a waste of money and > basically takes your time and money from pursuing real genealogy > research. > > I cannot tell you how many people write me telling me that they are > part of the Henry Maxwell/Agness Carson line (which goes back to 1725) > because of the DNA testing. We have everyone, and I mean everyone > documented, proven beyond doubt. And, > they keep writing back and saying but the DNA proves it. It > is really totally worthless. > > If you look at family search data, you can see the "carsons" who are > from the nordic countries (spelled slightly differently, converted or > rather angelized to Carson). There is also an Italian line. > > People always look for shortcuts to the plodding required in genealogy > research. And, sometimes you hit a dead end and it is really a dead > end. I cannot get Walter and Agness Carson or Samuel and Jane Carson > back to Scotland/Ireland nor can I get HEnry Maxwell back. I suspect > that will always be the case. The records just aren't there. > > Josette > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Stephanie Carson Feldman <[email protected]> >>Sent: Oct 8, 2006 12:00 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON >> >>Josette, >>I also have seen the Alexander Harvery Carson. Do you >>know what source records prompted this? There must be something to >>have started it, though I'm sure the internet has propagated it. >> >>Are there male Carsons of this line around today? I'd >>love to have more people participate in the DNA >>studies. They have a 67 marker test now that can >>bring the generations down to a much smaller number. >> >>Stephanie >> >>--- "Josette L. Maxwell" <[email protected]> >>wrote: >>> There is absolutely no evidence/documentation of any relationship to >>> the "Alexander Carson" line, if indeed it is a line. It's been >>> discredited many times. >>_______________________________________________ >>CARSON mailing list >>[email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________________ CARSON mailing list [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Shirley, Elaine here again... What I was pondering but now realize I didn't make clear in my message to you, is that perhaps your ancestor William and my Robert were brothers? Our family also did not show imagination in naming the children, but handed down family names generation after generation for at least 200 years. Family names were: William, James, Robert, Hugh, John and George, as well as Agnes, Elizabeth, Jane, Janet, and Margaret. I mentioned that my Robert Carson named his son John. John in turn named his oldest child after himself, and the next male child was called William. Is there anything that you know about the life of your people that might connect them to mine? Elaine Vancouver, B.C., Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > Thank you, Josette, for stating this. I have enjoyed reading this > discussion. > > It is so tempting to look for ways to confirm what you suspect - > especially when the searching gets frustrating. I am not involved in > the DNA research and am somewhat cautious as to its actual value. My > scepticism always leads me to wonder if the most vigorous proponents of > anything might have a financial benefit from it. Also, it is sad to see > people given information that makes them optimistic/excited about > something when it is not really accurate. > > There are many of us who are finding dead ends in our Irish research - > but we keep trying - perhaps somewhere there is a tiny bit of > information that will help. > > Personally, I am having some difficulty with William Carson (born abt > 1787 in Fermanagh) and his wife Ann (born about 1787 in Leitrim). Many > of us here in Canada are descendents of this couple - as well as many > who are now in the U.S. And, as most of us have discovered, the Carson > families did not show much originality in naming their children. > > Shirley Carson Johnson > British Columbia, Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Josette L. Maxwell > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > > > Several years ago - seven/eight? - when this Alexander Harvey Carson > "line" was set forth, a number of the Carson researchers (with decades > of experience in genealogy) managed to track down the originator of the > information - a guy in Arizona. He was repeatedly contacted and asked > for evidence/documentation/verification of the information cited by him. > He absolutely refused to do so. Further, people started trying to verify > themselves and there exists nothing that supports his whole myth in > terms of linage although there was information on specific individuals > at specific times, i.e. there was a Rev. Alexander Carson (if I remember > correctly) who was in Scotland at one time. > > Genealogy data without evidence/documentation is mythology. > > With reference to the DNA testing, you can independently verify via > internet research that the process they are using can only establish a > linkage going back three or four generations, if that. The other form of > DNA testing is more accurate. Since everyone in the world (according to > some archeaologistis and geneticists) go back to "Lucy", you're bound to > find some linkages. With respect to establishing genalogical proof, it > is totally worthless. It's a waste of money and basically takes your > time and money from pursuing real genealogy research. > > I cannot tell you how many people write me telling me that they are part > of the Henry Maxwell/Agness Carson line (which goes > back to 1725) because of the DNA testing. We have everyone, and I mean > everyone documented, proven beyond doubt. And, > they keep writing back and saying but the DNA proves it. It > is really totally worthless. > > If you look at family search data, you can see the "carsons" who are > from the nordic countries (spelled slightly differently, converted or > rather angelized to Carson). There is also an Italian line. > > People always look for shortcuts to the plodding required in genealogy > research. And, sometimes you hit a dead end and it is really a dead > end. I cannot get Walter and Agness Carson or Samuel and Jane Carson > back to Scotland/Ireland nor can I get HEnry Maxwell back. I suspect > that will always be the case. The records just aren't there. > > Josette > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Stephanie Carson Feldman <[email protected]> >>Sent: Oct 8, 2006 12:00 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON >> >>Josette, >>I also have seen the Alexander Harvery Carson. Do you >>know what source records prompted this? There must be something to >>have started it, though I'm sure the internet has propagated it. >> >>Are there male Carsons of this line around today? I'd >>love to have more people participate in the DNA >>studies. They have a 67 marker test now that can >>bring the generations down to a much smaller number. >> >>Stephanie >> >>--- "Josette L. Maxwell" <[email protected]> >>wrote: >>> There is absolutely no evidence/documentation of any relationship >>> to the "Alexander Carson" line, if indeed it is a >>> line. It's been >>> discredited many times. >>_______________________________________________ >>CARSON mailing list >>[email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Shirley, Maybe we are related? I am a Carson from an Irish descendency. My Carson great grandfather came to Nanaimo, British Columbia, in 1909 from Ayrshire, Scotland, where his family had lived and worked as coal miners since 1801 when they had arrived from Ireland. My earliest known ancestor is Robert Carson born in Ireland in the late 1700's. I don't know where. He married Mary Neil, also born in Ireland, sometime prior to 1802. I have a fairly substantial descendency tree from there. The family were Protestants, and in 1909 were members of the Orange Lodge, so likely they could have been Ulsters back in the 1700's. Robert was a linen weaver. I live in Vancouver, by the way just in case you live in the area. If any of this sounds familiar to anyone, let me know and I can provide more details. I would love it if anyone can help me get over the great Irish abyss in information. I've been stuck here for a while. Elaine Carson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > Thank you, Josette, for stating this. I have enjoyed reading this > discussion. > > It is so tempting to look for ways to confirm what you suspect - > especially when the searching gets frustrating. I am not involved in > the DNA research and am somewhat cautious as to its actual value. My > scepticism always leads me to wonder if the most vigorous proponents of > anything might have a financial benefit from it. Also, it is sad to see > people given information that makes them optimistic/excited about > something when it is not really accurate. > > There are many of us who are finding dead ends in our Irish research - > but we keep trying - perhaps somewhere there is a tiny bit of > information that will help. > > Personally, I am having some difficulty with William Carson (born abt > 1787 in Fermanagh) and his wife Ann (born about 1787 in Leitrim). Many > of us here in Canada are descendents of this couple - as well as many > who are now in the U.S. And, as most of us have discovered, the Carson > families did not show much originality in naming their children. > > Shirley Carson Johnson > British Columbia, Canada > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Josette L. Maxwell > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:57 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON > > > Several years ago - seven/eight? - when this Alexander Harvey Carson > "line" was set forth, a number of the Carson researchers (with decades > of experience in genealogy) managed to track down the originator of the > information - a guy in Arizona. He was repeatedly contacted and asked > for evidence/documentation/verification of the information cited by him. > He absolutely refused to do so. Further, people started trying to verify > themselves and there exists nothing that supports his whole myth in > terms of linage although there was information on specific individuals > at specific times, i.e. there was a Rev. Alexander Carson (if I remember > correctly) who was in Scotland at one time. > > Genealogy data without evidence/documentation is mythology. > > With reference to the DNA testing, you can independently verify via > internet research that the process they are using can only establish a > linkage going back three or four generations, if that. The other form of > DNA testing is more accurate. Since everyone in the world (according to > some archeaologistis and geneticists) go back to "Lucy", you're bound to > find some linkages. With respect to establishing genalogical proof, it > is totally worthless. It's a waste of money and basically takes your > time and money from pursuing real genealogy research. > > I cannot tell you how many people write me telling me that they are part > of the Henry Maxwell/Agness Carson line (which goes > back to 1725) because of the DNA testing. We have everyone, and I mean > everyone documented, proven beyond doubt. And, > they keep writing back and saying but the DNA proves it. It > is really totally worthless. > > If you look at family search data, you can see the "carsons" who are > from the nordic countries (spelled slightly differently, converted or > rather angelized to Carson). There is also an Italian line. > > People always look for shortcuts to the plodding required in genealogy > research. And, sometimes you hit a dead end and it is really a dead > end. I cannot get Walter and Agness Carson or Samuel and Jane Carson > back to Scotland/Ireland nor can I get HEnry Maxwell back. I suspect > that will always be the case. The records just aren't there. > > Josette > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Stephanie Carson Feldman <[email protected]> >>Sent: Oct 8, 2006 12:00 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [CARSON] WILLIAM CARSON >> >>Josette, >>I also have seen the Alexander Harvery Carson. Do you >>know what source records prompted this? There must be something to >>have started it, though I'm sure the internet has propagated it. >> >>Are there male Carsons of this line around today? I'd >>love to have more people participate in the DNA >>studies. They have a 67 marker test now that can >>bring the generations down to a much smaller number. >> >>Stephanie >> >>--- "Josette L. Maxwell" <[email protected]> >>wrote: >>> There is absolutely no evidence/documentation of any relationship >>> to the "Alexander Carson" line, if indeed it is a >>> line. It's been >>> discredited many times. >>_______________________________________________ >>CARSON mailing list >>[email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Recently received a death certificate for my greatgrandmother, Ellen B. (nee CARSON) THOMSON, d. 1898, Shaler Twp., Allegheny Co., PA. It lists her place of birth as Butler, PA. She was 68 years, at her time of death, so her birth was abt. 1830. I do know her parents were married in 1828, at Trinity Episcopal Cathedral, Pittsburgh, PA. (taken from archived records from this church) They were James CARSON and Mary GEER, both from the Cumberland Co., PA area. Anyone have Carson's in Butler for this time period? Thanks for your help and your time. Marybeth C. [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1746.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I'd sure appreciate that, once I get to Samuel Carson I have a block on anything before him. I can trace his wife back further using ancestry than I can him.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1746.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Roy, There might be a connection, but I do not know how. I descend from Samuel R. CARSON b.1824, MS. His parents were George and Elizabeth CARSON. George CARSON was born between 1770 and 1775 and is listed in the 1820 and 1830 censuses of Marion Co, MS; and the 1840 census of Pike Co, MS. His brother John CARSON b.1780, SC is listed in the 1830 census of Marion Co, MS and the 1840 and 1850 censuses of Yazoo Co, MS. I've ordered microfilm records from Yazoo Co, MS. If I find anything that might connect, I'll post it.

I'm looking for possible connection to a W. R. CARSON from Carroll County, Mississippi. Below is the information I have on him and his family.Thanks for any help. W. R. CARSON died in Carroll County, Mississippi. He married MARGARET HOOD Abt. 1865 in Mississippi, daughter of GARDNER HOOD and REBECCA KING. She was born Abt. 1831 in Halifax County, North Carolina, and died Aft. 1870 in Carroll County, Mississippi. Children of W. CARSON and MARGARET HOOD are: i. W. S.2 CARSON, b. Abt. 1866. ii. G. J. CARSON, b. Abt. 1868. iii. A. L. CARSON, b. Abt. 1870.