This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: karlatsmt Surnames: Carson, Magee, Morrison Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2929/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for more info on the family of Nancy Carson, likely born late 1700's, early 1800's, most likely in County Antrim. She married a Hugh Magee, and they had at least one child, a daughter named Ann Magee, b 1831. Ann emigrated to America in 1853 and settled in Concord, New Hampshire where she married James Morrison, also originally from Belfast. I know the details are few, but if anyone has any clues or suggestions, I would appreciate it! Craig Morrison TheFortRocks.com Fort Wayne, Indiana Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gkklafter Surnames: Womack Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2.13.28.37.333.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, My 80 year old grandfather said that he heard all his life that he was related to Kit Carson. His name is Edmund Julian Womack. I have information on a lot of his family and have found nothing on Kit Carson. Do you happen to know? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am related to Kit Carson (1st cousin 5 times removed), and DNA proves a match to one of the direct descendants of Kit Carson. So does substantial paper trail research, which I had before the DNA test. A Carson Family Cemetery of a first cousin (my ggg-grandfather) of Kit's is on property still in the family, continuously owned by family since the early 1800's. Kit is the son of Lindsey Carson. I descend from Lindsey's brother, Andrew. One of my cousins with the Carson surname took a y-DNA test. I also took the Family Finder test, which shows cousin connections, regardless of surnames. A relationship within 4th or 5th distant cousins can be shown with this test. You could try the Family Finder test to see if there is a connection. Sent from my iPad Suzie Ball Shades of Elegance drapery workroom and design center sball@drpmail.com 770-655-9678 On Oct 7, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Stephanie <steph_carson@yahoo.com> wrote: > Generally if you don't have the exact line, you are not related to Kit Carson. :) It's an old story in almost every Carson line. > ________________________________ > > Hello, > My 80 year old grandfather said that he heard all his life that he was related to Kit Carson. His name is Edmund Julian Womack. I have information on a lot of his family and have found nothing on Kit Carson. Do you happen to know? > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > CARSON@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Generally if you don't have the exact line, you are not related to Kit Carson.  :)  It's an old story in almost every Carson line. ________________________________ Hello, My 80 year old grandfather said that he heard all his life that he was related to Kit Carson.  His name is Edmund Julian Womack. I have information on a lot of his family and have found nothing on Kit Carson. Do you happen to know?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: susancarson9 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/820.831/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! I am susan Carson Adams. I previously contacted someone on line with pictures of Minerva and Samuel Carson. Maybe a relative of yours? I might be able to id some of your pictures. I would love to receive copies of what you have. I have a picture of my gr grandfather, Frank Carson. I also have pictures of Henry, Larsh, Glenda, and James. I have a cousin in my town who is gr grandson of James and has his picture. I have a picture of wiley and WWi picture of Grover. please share.!!! will be much appreciated. do you have pictures of Ruby Carson? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mecarson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/1470.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I also descend from this CARSON family in Butler Co. Have you found in your research that the white CARSONs & HELMs may have had Jewish origins in Ireland? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LMFunk Surnames: Carson, Issachour Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2928/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Researching Paxton Carson, born in 1812 in PA, married Eliza Issachour 14 June 1835 in Trumball County, OH. Paxton died between 1850- 1854 in Hancock County, OH. He and Eliza had four known children: Andrew, James, Eliza Jane and Thomas. I would be interested in corresponding with others researching this line; willing to share my research. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I found this reference for Carson and Maxwell land deed 1750...does anyone know about this? I believe this Carson/Carsan family were famous merchant shippers Strabane, NIreland with later affiliations in Philadelphia? Probably associated with the Dunlope, Cunnningham and Barclay families. Primary document: 60 Registry of Deeds, Dublin, vol. 100, p. 354, #70771, vol. 307, p. 396, #204220, vol. 380, p. 112, #252964. Samuel Carsan to Rev. John Maxwell, November 29, 1750 (Davey and Carsan Letterbook, LC). Belfast News Letter, December 27, 1763. Was this a land deed for dowry or inheritance to Rose Carson (wife of Rev John Maxwell and daughter of Robert Carson etc) Was Samuel Carson a brother to Rose Carson Maxwell? listed in references in book: Macmaster, Richard (2011-12-21). Scotch-Irish Merchants in Colonial America . Ulster Historical Foundation. Don Maxwell dmaxwelljr@hotmail.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: s_carson08 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2926.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was looking in book again... I overlooked a line that says James had a son named James jr. who William issued 200 acres of land to. So at least two sons.. I was also reading a little more about John Hazzard..I guess James Sr. wouldn't be related as brother since John only came over with his sister and brother-in-law, unless he came over later. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: s_carson08 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2926.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yeah, I'm not exactly sure who James Carson was the descendant of or where he originally came from. It's all conjecture at this point. The only record I have is the Dillingham/Carson book which doesn't tell anything about James except his death where he was at the time of his son's marriage. It doesn't give who he was married to or if he had any siblings or any other children.. Hopefully I can get a test done at some point Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gkcarson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/53.57.68.83.99.106.2.1.2.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It would be very helpful if you can do the YDNA test (as a male with surname Carson). The I haplogroup is predominant in the Carson lineages that came from SE Pennsylvania to western NC 1750s-1790s and also eastern TN. The I haplogroup Carson participants had Carson paternal ancestors who at various times were in Orange, Rowan, Caswell, Guilford, Surry, Iredell, Buncombe (Henderson area), Haywood, Jackson, Macon, Lincoln and Macklenburg counties. The descendant of John Hazzard Carson of Burke Co NC descendant is the only R haplogroup result in that area. Two other participants with R results, one of whose ancestors were in western NC, think they both descend from the same Carson ancestor who was in SE PA 1760s. However, their results show them to not be related paternally. They also don't match the Burke NC results enough to be related. If you have questions, you may email me direct at gkcarson@aol.com. Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Evidently doing regular ancestral searching is passe for this group. It is all about DNA now. Well, there are some of us who cannot do that or have relatives that do not want to do it, even if I pay for it because they are not interested. That being the case, I guess you might as well delete me from the group. I cannot benefit from all of this at all.

Most of the people on lists like this understand that the pursuit of DNA matches is kind of a last ditch effort where genealogy research hits blank walls. Even with a "perfect match", when you start talking about a 75% possibility with a match of 37 markers something like twelve generations ago, it doesn't provide much help. Basically speaking, the YDNA results are only useful in a negative sense. If you think you are related to a particular Carson, and there isn't a match, then you can pursue other lines of inquiry. The bottom line: even with a DNA match it does not prove anything of real value except in a negative sense. So, stay on the list. You might get some clues that will really help in your research. There aren't any "quick fixes" in genealogy research and, frequently, you end up with "I'll never know". --- On Tue, 9/25/12, Sheila <sheilap@etex.net> wrote: > From: Sheila <sheilap@etex.net> > Subject: [CARSON] Searching and DNA > To: carson-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 1:45 PM > > Evidently doing regular ancestral searching is passe for > this group.  It is all about DNA now.  Well, there > are some of us who cannot do that or have relatives that do > not want to do it, even if I pay for it because they are not > interested. > > That being the case, I guess you might as well delete me > from the group.  I cannot benefit from all of this at > all. > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > CARSON@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARSON-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sheila, There are many different ways to research and a lot of us have been doing this awhile and we've scoured the courthouses dry and have all there is.  y-DNA offers something new. An open mind and positive attitude are often useful in life.  Good luck in your research. Stephanie Carson ________________________________ From: Sheila <sheilap@etex.net> To: carson-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: [CARSON] Searching and DNA Evidently doing regular ancestral searching is passe for this group.  It is all about DNA now.  Well, there are some of us who cannot do that or have relatives that do not want to do it, even if I pay for it because they are not interested. That being the case, I guess you might as well delete me from the group.  I cannot benefit from all of this at all.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jackiepaper Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/984.987.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have two wives for Dr. Samuel Carson: Ann Harrison as the mother of his many children and Jane Hamilton (married in Alexandria, VA 28 Nov. 1806). However, in 2007 you wrote that Samuel was married to Sarah Gibson. Do you have a source for this information? Do you have any information about Ann Harrison or Jane Hamilton? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gkcarson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2926.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My ancestor David Carson was in Buncombe NC c1800-1810. I'm in the I haplogroup. The results match Carson lineages out of Lancaster, Chester PA, Washington PA, and western NC. My David Carson born c1760 (PA probably) was in NC then TN then in Buncombe NC 1800-1810 then Haywood/Jackson NC 1820. A descendant of John Hazard Carson 1752-1841 Burke Co NC is in the R haplogroup. Does James Carson in Buncombe on the Big Ivey c1800 connect? There's aren't any other Carson matches yet. Ideally there needs to be two matches of Carson males from different branches of the same line to confirm things. On a side note, there are some lines with paper trails to a common ancestor whose YDNA results don't match, so they can't be biological descendants of the same Carson ancestor. One of them needs to match another male of the same surname from a different branch for things to be sorted out. Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Why can we not get to the results page anymore? My husband had his DNA done and we used to be able to go to a webpage that showed all the results ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <carson-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson Haplogroup for PA, NC lines > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: gkcarson > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2926.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My ancestor David Carson was in Buncombe NC c1800-1810. I'm in the I > haplogroup. The results match Carson lineages out of Lancaster, Chester > PA, Washington PA, and western NC. My David Carson born c1760 (PA > probably) was in NC then TN then in Buncombe NC 1800-1810 then > Haywood/Jackson NC 1820. > > A descendant of John Hazard Carson 1752-1841 Burke Co NC is in the R > haplogroup. Does James Carson in Buncombe on the Big Ivey c1800 connect? > There's aren't any other Carson matches yet. Ideally there needs to be two > matches of Carson males from different branches of the same line to > confirm things. > > On a side note, there are some lines with paper trails to a common > ancestor whose YDNA results don't match, so they can't be biological > descendants of the same Carson ancestor. One of them needs to match > another male of the same surname from a different branch for things to be > sorted out. > > Gary > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CARSON mailing list > CARSON@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARSON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gkcarson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2927.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Judy, The "ungrouped" YDNA results were because some results hadn't been grouped on the main Family Tree DNA site. I discovered that when I recently became a Carson DNA project volunteer administrator. I've now organized the results by haplogroup and probable lineages (multiple matching results). I moved the Carson DNA Project to the main Family Tree DNA site. The previous site is still there. I will be redirecting people to the new site once some things are done. Here's a link. You will probably need to log in to view it. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Carson/ Thanks, Gary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: truthseeker68 Surnames: CARSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2927.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That post was somewhat misleading. My brother didn't do the 67 marker test... he did the 37 marker test. But the results that I listed were correct for the 37 marker test. We are considering upgrading to the 67 test. Sorry, I realized as soon as I hit send that I should have worded that message a bit differently right there at the end. All this is confusing enough without my help in confusing you more. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: truthseeker68 Surnames: CARSON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carson/2927/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Be sure you pay a little more and get AT LEAST the 37 marker test. We Carsons are so plentiful that if you just do the cheapest 12 marker test, you will get so many 'Exact matches" that you will be misled about who you are really related to directly. My brother had the 37 marker test, but it also gives you results for the 12 and the 25 markers. At just 12 markers, my brother had 999 (yes, exactly) Exact matches to his Y-DNA results. But when we looked at the 25 markers, there wasn't even 1 exact match to his Y-DNA results...in fact, by 25 markers, we only had 1 Carson that was just 1 "step" away (one marker different) and at 37 markers we still had the same person at 1 step away, and one person each at 2 steps, 3 steps and 4 steps. So by the time you get to 67 markers, you really get a good idea of who might be in the same direct line to your family. Thanks, Gary, for posting the Y-DNA chart with the tested Carson males. Do you know why the R1b1a2 Haplogroup is listed as "un! grouped"....do we need more matches in the family trees to put some of us in specific groups? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.