This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have a bit of bad news for Carson researchers. I am skeptical that the Samuel Carson of York Co., PA is the brother of William Carson of Rowen Co., NC. The supplement for McClungs book (3 times larger than the original) mentions a (1753?)NC will for a William Carson, who mentions his "cuzin" William Carson as well as a Samuel Carson both of Rowen County, NC. The will mentions several others including a brother Robert and wife and daughters. I find it difficult to beleive Samuel of York PA and Samuel of Rowen NC are the same individual. Of course the "cuzin" William Carson of Rowen NC is the grandfather of Kit. Not to ad insult to injury but I have never seen a proof that Kit's granfther William is related to Alexander Harvey Carson...in fact I haven't seen any proof Alex exists. Please prove me wrong!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson, Sowder, Owens, Holman, Griffin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Gary, I do not know who are the parents of David Carson of Abingdon, Washington Co., VA. I have read the Carson - Bent - Boggs material (see below), but I could find no supporting documentation for the claim that my David Carson is the son of the Samuel Carson who left the will in York Co., PA. I am pretty sure that I have accurate information on the descendents of the David Carson of Abingdon, VA. (For an overview, go to www.theRadkes.com and click in Carson Family Reunion.) Jerry ------------------------------------- Carson - Bent - Boggs Genealogy Line of William Carson, ancestor of Kit Carson - famous scout and pioneer of the Rocky Mountain area with the Western branches of the Bent and Boggs families with whom Kit Carson was associated and the line of Samuel Carson supposed to be a brother of William Carson. Compiled by Quantrille D. McClung Published by The Denver Public Library - 1962 Library of Congress Catalog Card # - 62-21154 Reprinted photo of the Kit Carson Memorial in Trinidad, Colorado Book is dedicated to the memory of John J. McCurdy - Carson enthusiast Contents Page Foreword i Compiler's Notes 1 Key 2 Carson Family from C. T. Wood 3 Line of William Carson 10 Boone Carson Inter marriages 62 Kit Carson and Family 66 Jaramillo - Vigil Ancestry 84 Wood Family 85 Bent and Boggs Family - Western Branch 87 Line of Samuel Carson 111 Bibliography 164 Appendix 168 Corrections and Additions 181 Index - name 183 Index - place 210 Persons and groups involved with or encouraged this project: Miss McClung - in charge of the Genealogical Dept of the Denver Public Library Colorado Genealogical Society The Colorado Genealogist Dr. Nolie Mumey John J. McCurdy - Lincoln, KS Mrs. Bernice Blackwelder - Arlington, VA using the library and archive facilities of Washington D.C. Major Jack K. Boyer - Kit Carson House and Museum - Taos, New Mexico Resource research in Santa Fe, New Mexico, Salt Lake City, Utah; Pacific Coast; Los Angeles Public Library; Public Library of San Francisco; San Francisco Historical Society; Library of the Society of California Pioneers; the Bancroft Library of Berkeley, California; Portland Public Library. Mr. and Mrs. Charles T. Wood of San Francisco a grandson of Kit Carson. Lester F. Phillis - McPherson Kansas - a Carson family researcher Carson Family Records by Mr. F. T. Carson State Historical Society of Santa Fe, NM Mr. Warren L. Boggs of California M/M F. W. Nelson Mrs. Leora H. Werner Mrs. Venita R. McPherson Mr. C W Hurd Mrs. Frances Carson Hubert Mrs. Edna Perry Deckler Mr. Jesse R Nelson Florence Carson Bryan Mrs. Nelia Corbin Baldridge Mrs. Josephine Carson Beach Mr. F. L. Boggs Mrs. Cress Taylor Mr. F. W. Carson Mr. Frank Wood Bertha Carson Amick Mr. Kit Carson Mrs. Gertrude Alpers Mrs. M S McGuinn Mrs. Merlyn Houck -----------------------------------------------------------------

I spent a good deal of time sorting out Carsons in PA before the Rev War. Would be most interested in sharing information with you. What I've done is work exclusively form documentataion to establish the Carsons. Tried to get people on the Carson list to participate by contributing whatever proofs/documents they might have about early Carsons but not much interest in doing so. Most just make assumptions about relationships. Walter Carson who is first in Chester Ct. then what became Adams Ct. by early 1740s is my direct ancestor. He shows up in the Tax records for Chester Ct. 1729. In that same city is Samuel Carson m. Jane Patterson. We have a letter which establishes Walter and Samuel as blood relatives, though whether brothers or cousins is unknown. Walter Carson had two sons (William and John) who move to NC by 1783. We believe that he had a third son, Walter Carson, who married a daughter of Samuel Carson and ended up in York Ct. SC. Their daughter Agness married Henry Maxwell. Family lore says they were first cousins, but there is absolutely nothing to establish that relationship. Henry comes to the US after them, born 1726-1734. Josette Maxwell Boone NC -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sent: Mar 29, 2006 4:36 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: William Carson m. Margaret McCord 1760 Dauphin PA > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719 > >Message Board Post: > >I'm trying to sort out Carson ancestors from Dauphin, Lancaster, Cumberland PA. Several findings suggest that a William Carson of Dauphin who married Margaret McCord in 1760 PA moved to western NC then to eastern TN by the 1787. Other marriages by the same minister in Dauphin PA were Robert Carson and Margaret West in 1755 and Mary Carson and John Lee 1759. Other nearby marriages were James Carson and Mary Espy 1748. > >William Carson died in 1790, Washington Co TN and left a widow Margaret. Children were William, David, Robert, John, Janet and Mary. > >In Washington Co NC around 1787 were William, William Sr., William Jr., David, Robert, and Moses Carson. By 1792, there was David, David Sr., David Jr., Little David, Robert Sr., Robert Jr., John and William Jr. plus Robert, John and William in nearby Green County TN (before Jefferson was split off). The first group in 1787 appear to be related (brothers or cousins) who named their sons after their brothers. > >Has anybody sorted these out? I've identified William and Margaret as the probable parents of our David Carson ancestor, based on multiple factors and circumstantial evidence. > >Gary > > > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

HI STEVE I HAVE THE SAME DATES YOU HAVE FOR WILLIAM. I SHOW HIS DEATH PLACE AS ROSS COUNTY, OHIO. SORRY I HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION FOR THIS THO. DORLA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jerry, I've started doing research at the genealogy library to sort out the multiple David Carsons and others in PA. What I've found is there were multiple David Carsons in York, Lancaster, Dauphin and Cumberland PA and even more Williams, Johns, Samuels, Roberts, and others in the 1740-1780 timeframe in those counties. Researching county by county in PA, I've found perhaps several of each by the 1750s. By the 1780s, there were maybe 10 to 20 of each. I've noticed that multiple families of Carsons have claimed the same ancestor based on a name in the Chester and York Carson wills, unaware there were multiple individuals with that name. I also noticed that some have plugged in their descendants on family trees with dates and locations that could not possibly match, given the findings in PA. As a result, most of the online Carson family trees I've seen are now messed up. In Lancaster PA I found an older David Carson who had daughters Margaret and Mary born 1754-56. A David Carson was on the Dauphin tax roll in 1750. In York Cumberland township a David is on the tax list in 1779. A David Carson is in Cumberland in 1778 in Tyrone township then appears to died with Sarah widow listed and another David next door in 1779, possibly his son. A David was in the Cumberland PA militia. A David married in 1784 and another David married in 1785 in Philadelphia. A David Carson is in the 1762 Adams PA tax list. David Carson is listed as an heir of John Linn Carson in 1762 in the Minallen township. There was another David Carson who escaped from the jail in the 1770s timeframe and disappears. There were a David Carson in eastern TN in 1787 then 5 years later there were 5 Davids or age in Washington and Greene counties. I guess the conclusion is there are multiple individuals in PA who could be ancestors in addition to those who left wills in York and Chester. This will take more research. I've narrowed the possibilities down (at least for my David's parents in eastern TN) and will post more details when they are known as to which PA ancestors he connects to. What documentation has been used to show your David was a son of the York Samuel? Thanks, Gary

Steven St. Martin wrote: > I checked the Grandview Cemetery book for William. No gravestone > exists. His body was moved to Grandview from the cemetery at Third > Presbyterian Church. > > As for a will, I do not know, but I will try to check. > > Steve St. Martin > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Date of death: Wm. Carson, son of William Carson/Isabella >> Gilmore >> Date: 28 Mar 2006 19:33:20 -0700 >> >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Surnames: Carson, Gilmore >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1718 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> William Carson (son of William Carson/Isabella Gilmore) was born 04 >> JUL 1776 and died 30 SEP 1846. I saw these dates listed on page "X" >> of "Descendants of William Carson, a Revolutionary War Patriot Who >> Survived Valley Forge..." by Beatrice Carson. >> >> Can anyone confirm the date of death: 30 SEP 1846? Where did he die? >> Is there a will or administration? >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > Hi, Check with the veterans dept. Wash. D.C. Phillip

I checked the Grandview Cemetery book for William. No gravestone exists. His body was moved to Grandview from the cemetery at Third Presbyterian Church. As for a will, I do not know, but I will try to check. Steve St. Martin >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Date of death: Wm. Carson, son of William Carson/Isabella Gilmore >Date: 28 Mar 2006 19:33:20 -0700 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Carson, Gilmore >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1718 > >Message Board Post: > >William Carson (son of William Carson/Isabella Gilmore) was born 04 JUL >1776 and died 30 SEP 1846. I saw these dates listed on page "X" of >"Descendants of William Carson, a Revolutionary War Patriot Who Survived >Valley Forge..." by Beatrice Carson. > >Can anyone confirm the date of death: 30 SEP 1846? Where did he die? Is >there a will or administration? > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1672.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dean: I attempted to email you directly, but it came back to me. I have the info you requested...please email me & I'll get it off to you. Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson, Sowder, Owens, Holman, Griffin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719.1 Message Board Post: Gary, I am interested in your research. My ancestor is the David Carson (b. 1741?) of Abingdon, Washington Co., VA whose children migrated to Rockcastle County, Kentucky. (For an overview, go to www.theRadkes.com and click on Carson Family Reunion.) There are a number of Carson family researchers who believe that this David is the son of the Samuel Carson who left a will in 1752 in York County, Pennsylvania. ("Kentucky Pioneers & their Descendants" compiled by Ila Earle Fowler, York Co. PA Will Book A, page 216. This assumption is made in the "Carson-Bent-Boggs Genealogy, Supplement." by McClung, page 143 and page 280) Other Carson researchers believe that the David Carson mentioned in the York County PA Will was the David Carson of Mt. Pleasant, Pennsylvania who married Susanna McBride, the daughter of Andrew McBride. I have not spent much time studying the Carsons in PA, but from time to time I run across something and save it. Please make you findings public. Jerry Radke Harrisburg, PA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1672.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Pat: Thanks for your email. Yes, I would be quite intrested in the children as well as any descedants of whom you might be aware. Please feel free to email me directly. Thanks again Dean

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARSON, LAY, WALKER, SWEET Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1720 Message Board Post: Thomas H. CARSON, b. c1814 (per census records) in KY (unknown county), married Mary LAY on 26 Feb 1851 Gallatin Co, IL. Also married that same day and place was A.A. CARSON and Emeline LAY. On 5 Jan 1851 at Gallatin, John H. CARSON married Sarah E. WALKER. Another family who may have been related was Isaac W. CARSON, b. c1816 KY, and his wife, Mary SWEET. Thomas and Mary CARSON were at Fairbury, Livingston Co, IL in 1860 and 1870. In 1880 they were at Woodford Co, IL. John H. and Sarah CARSON were in Gallatin Co, IL in 1860. Isaac and Mary CARSON were in Woodford Co, IL in 1850, and Chenoa, McLean Co, IL in 1870 and 1880. A son of John H. was residing with Isaac in 1870. Any information concerning these families would be greatly appreciated. Any hints also.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARSON GILLESPIE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1710.1.1 Message Board Post: Reuben was born Dec 14, 1832 Perry County, TN married Nancy Elizabeth Horner April 8, 1864 in TN. His mother was Nancy Gillespie Carson not sure about his father. His siblings are: John L Carson b1833 Martha A Carson b 1835 Susan M Carson b 1837 Mary Jane Carson b 1840 Robert G Carson b 1842 William H Carson b 1843 James Madison Carson b 1845

[email protected] wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719 > >Message Board Post: > >I'm trying to sort out Carson ancestors from Dauphin, Lancaster, Cumberland PA. Several findings suggest that a William Carson of Dauphin who married Margaret McCord in 1760 PA moved to western NC then to eastern TN by the 1787. Other marriages by the same minister in Dauphin PA were Robert Carson and Margaret West in 1755 and Mary Carson and John Lee 1759. Other nearby marriages were James Carson and Mary Espy 1748. > >William Carson died in 1790, Washington Co TN and left a widow Margaret. Children were William, David, Robert, John, Janet and Mary. > >In Washington Co NC around 1787 were William, William Sr., William Jr., David, Robert, and Moses Carson. By 1792, there was David, David Sr., David Jr., Little David, Robert Sr., Robert Jr., John and William Jr. plus Robert, John and William in nearby Green County TN (before Jefferson was split off). The first group in 1787 appear to be related (brothers or cousins) who named their sons after their brothers. > >Has anybody sorted these out? I've identified William and Margaret as the probable parents of our David Carson ancestor, based on multiple factors and circumstantial evidence. > >Gary > > > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > Hello Gary you are right in that David married Mary Burk in Blount Co. moved to Monroe Do Tn. One son to medical school in Ky. Sold land to send him. Robert and Joseph come on to Bradley Co. Tn. where David had a grant.with another son of Roberts . My Line Andrew Jackson (Jack) David died in Bradley as well as others. Daughter Elizabeth Carson mar. George Elmore in Monroe co. Phillip

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1672.1 Message Board Post: Dean, I am a descendant of Hiram Casey Carson & Nancy Kilgore Carson, Hiram's second wife. His first wife's name was Elizabeth Stone...NOT Nancy Elizabeth Stone. Hiram & Elizabeth had five children, & Hiram had seven (who survived to adulthood) with Nancy. I have the names of all the children if you need them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1719 Message Board Post: I'm trying to sort out Carson ancestors from Dauphin, Lancaster, Cumberland PA. Several findings suggest that a William Carson of Dauphin who married Margaret McCord in 1760 PA moved to western NC then to eastern TN by the 1787. Other marriages by the same minister in Dauphin PA were Robert Carson and Margaret West in 1755 and Mary Carson and John Lee 1759. Other nearby marriages were James Carson and Mary Espy 1748. William Carson died in 1790, Washington Co TN and left a widow Margaret. Children were William, David, Robert, John, Janet and Mary. In Washington Co NC around 1787 were William, William Sr., William Jr., David, Robert, and Moses Carson. By 1792, there was David, David Sr., David Jr., Little David, Robert Sr., Robert Jr., John and William Jr. plus Robert, John and William in nearby Green County TN (before Jefferson was split off). The first group in 1787 appear to be related (brothers or cousins) who named their sons after their brothers. Has anybody sorted these out? I've identified William and Margaret as the probable parents of our David Carson ancestor, based on multiple factors and circumstantial evidence. Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1710.1 Message Board Post: Kay, Where was Rueben Reynolds Carson born and when? Who were his parents and/or siblings? Gary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson, Gilmore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1718 Message Board Post: William Carson (son of William Carson/Isabella Gilmore) was born 04 JUL 1776 and died 30 SEP 1846. I saw these dates listed on page "X" of "Descendants of William Carson, a Revolutionary War Patriot Who Survived Valley Forge..." by Beatrice Carson. Can anyone confirm the date of death: 30 SEP 1846? Where did he die? Is there a will or administration?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1717 Message Board Post: Searching for any information on the family of John Carson/Hulda of Parke Co. Indiana. Index to probate records indicates estate: Heirs of John Carson, 16 MAY 1865; guardian, Hulda R. Carson; Wards: James M. and Adah L.; Sureties: Swaim and Smith. 1860 Census for Parke Co. Indiana, Libery Twp., Post Office: Howard Dwelling # 707, Family # 698 John Carson, age 30, farmer, born in Indiana (b. ca. 1830) Hulda R. Carson, age 25, b. North Carolina (b. ca. 1835) Sarah Parker, age 28 (?) born Kentucky (b. ca. 1832) Note: John is listed at the bottom of one page. Hulda is listed at the top of the next page. Her name is listed and indexed as Hulda CORSON, but since the dwelling and family number are the same for Hulda as for John Carson, I assume she is a Carson. What happened to Hulda and wards after 1865? Did Hulda remarry? Where in Indiana did John Carson come from? Why are there no land deeds for him?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DiH.2ACEB/1417.3 Message Board Post: Marshal Henderson Carson was the son of William Carson, he married Joice Louisa Bailey. Marshal Carson had 9 children. Margaret A., James A., Nance E., Rebecca J., Charles D., John H. N., Samuel P, and Caroline Louise. Caroline was my grandmother. is this any help. contact me if you think I can help [email protected] Carolyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DiH.2ACEB/1427.2 Message Board Post: These immigrants from Newry had previously walked with Rev Clarke from the Cahans Presbyterian Church, Co. Monaghan & their names are all listed in the Records of that Church - sadly now derelict though completely intact & safe