Larry, When I copied the report from FTM to the email it was changed over to plain text. It had been super scripted (the five that is). The five simply means that that person is the fifth generation in that lineage. Also, do you happen to know your James Carroll's wife's name? Cathie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry and Kris" <lcarroll@toledotel.com> To: "Krueger" <cathibeth@charter.net> Cc: "lcarroll@pacifier.com" <lcarroll@toledotel.com> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Re: James Carroll, KY > Hi, > On your message of 1-1-02 you started on : > Generation No 1 > 1. James 5 Carroll (Dempsey Porter 4, Sanford 3, Dempsey James 2, Daniel 1) > was born August 11, 1820 in Kentucky. > > I do not understand what 5 means and what is in the parentheses. > > I have a James Carroll in Kentucky born abt 1829 I'm trying to trace. > > I hope you understand what I am trying to ask. > > Larry G. Carroll > lcarroll@toledotel.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krueger" <cathibeth@charter.net> > To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 7:55 AM > Subject: [CARROLL] Re: James Carroll, KY > > > > This is what I have on James Carroll of Harrison County, Kentucky > > Descendants of James Carroll > > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. James5 Carroll (Dempsey Porter4, Sanford3, Dempsey James2, Daniel1) was > > born August 11, 1820 in Kentucky, and died August 13, 1881 in Leeslick, > > Harrison County, Kentucky. He married Jane Ervin Hamilton December 07, > 1842 > > in Kentucky, daughter of Thomas Hamilton and Martha Sanderson. She was > born > > January 22, 1822 in Fayette County Kentucky, and died October 25, 1896 in > > Cynthiana, Harrison County, Kentucky. > > > > Notes for James Carroll: > > 1880 census of Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky shows that he has two > > black servants working for him. One is a Ms. Mariah Enoch? (ink is faded > so > > it is difficult to read her last name). Mariah is an outstanding 100 years > > old at this time! It also states that Mariah takes care of the poultry > > raising. They also have under their roof a Mr. Franklin Watkins who is 20. > > It does not list Franklins occupation. > > > > The census reveals also that James cannot read or write. The only person > > that can read and write in the household is Mariah. There are only two > > members of this household that are attending school, Charles and the > servant > > Franklin Watkins. > > This shows me that my great-great granparents were nice people. They did > not > > cast out people and seemed to take in people as they went along. I think > > this has to be hereditary as I am one person who will 'take in the > strays.' > > > > More About James Carroll: > > Burial: Battle Grove Cemetery, Cynthiana, Harrison County, Kentucky > > Census: 1880, Harrison County, Kentucky > > Occupation 1: Stockman/Farmer > > Occupation 2: Stock Trader > > > > Notes for Jane Ervin Hamilton: > > 1880 census of Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky shows that she could > not > > read or write. > > > > More About Jane Ervin Hamilton: > > Burial: Battle Grove Cemetery, Cynthiana, Harrison County, Kentucky > > Census: 1880, Harrison County, Kentucky > > > > More About James Carroll and Jane Hamilton: > > Marriage: December 07, 1842, Kentucky > > > > Children of James Carroll and Jane Hamilton are: > > 2 i. Martha A.6 Carroll, born 1844 in Kentucky; died Bef. 1944. She > married > > Frank Parks November 14, 1865 in Harrison County, Kentucky; born April 08, > > 1835 in Harrison County, Kentucky; died Bef. 1935. > > > > More About Frank Parks and Martha Carroll: > > Marriage: November 14, 1865, Harrison County, Kentucky > > 3 ii. Thomas H. Carroll, born 1846 in Kentucky; died Bef. 1946. He married > > Elizabeth Ragg; born 1847 in Kentucky; died Unknown. > > > > Notes for Thomas H. Carroll: > > 1880 census of Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky shows that he could not > > read or write. It also shows that he has two other non-blooded people in > his > > household, both black. One is Ms. Mary Carroll who is 21 and has a listed > > occupation of servant. The other is Mr. Ben Allen. Ben is listed as being > a > > hired hand and is 25 years old. > > > > More About Thomas H. Carroll: > > Census: 1880, Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky > > Occupation: Farmer > > > > 4 iii. William W. Carroll, born July 1850 in Fayette County, Kentucky; > died > > October 20, 1875 in Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky. > > > > More About William W. Carroll: > > Burial: Cynthiana County, Kentucky > > > > 5 iv. James Porter Carroll, born August 16, 1858 in Leesburg, Harrison > > County, Kentucky; died January 29, 1931 in Topeka, Shawnee County, Kansas. > > He married Eliza Jane Underwood July 15, 1889 in Atchison, Atchison > County, > > Kansas; born July 22, 1867 in Wayne Township, Buchanan County, Missouri; > > died July 25, 1945 in Lewis, Edwards County, Kansas. > > Notes for James Porter Carroll: > > > > 1880 census of Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky shows that he is still > > living there, therefore, he moved to Kansas after 1880. It also reveals > that > > he could not read or write. > > > > More About James Porter Carroll: > > Burial: Maplewood Cemetery, Emporia, Lyon County, Kansas > > Cause of Death: Cancer in the trunk > > Census: 1880, Harrison County, Kentucky > > Medical Information: Operated on at Santa Fe Hospital and had cancer in > all > > of trunk. Died in hospital. > > Occupation 1: Rail Road Engineer > > Occupation 2: Working on Farm > > > > Notes for Eliza Jane Underwood: > > She died at the home of her daughter, Anna Ervin Carroll Garrison in > Lewis, > > Kansas and was taken by train to Emporia, Kansas and buried next to her > > husband, James Porter Carroll, her mother, Anna Watkins Shearer Underwood, > > and her granddaughter, Shirley Lois Garrison who is the daughter of Anna > > Ervin Carroll and Jonathan Edward Garrison. Source: Lance Myers > > > > More About Eliza Jane Underwood: > > Burial: July 28, 1945, Maplewood Cemetery, Emporia, Lyon County, Kansas > > > > More About James Carroll and Eliza Underwood: > > Marriage: July 15, 1889, Atchison, Atchison County, Kansas > > > > 6 v. Graves Carroll, born August 18, 1860 in Connersville, Harrison > County, > > Kentucky; died January 16, 1932 in Cynthiana, Harrison County, Kentucky. > He > > married Lorene Taylor May 12, 1892 in Covington, Kentucky; born October > 08, > > 1869; died Aft. 1905. > > > > Notes for Graves Carroll: > > 1880 census of Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky shows that he could not > > read or write. > > > > More About Graves Carroll: > > Burial: Battle Grove Cemetery, Cynthiana, Harrison County, Kentucky > > Census: 1880, Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky > > > > Notes for Lorene Taylor: > > Gene Pool Marriage Records state that her name is Lovena > > More About Graves Carroll and Lorene Taylor: > > Marriage: May 12, 1892, Covington, Kentucky > > > > 7 vi. Charles Bradley Carroll, born September 07, 1863 in Leeslick, > Harrison > > County, Kentucky; died May 30, 1950 in Cynthiana, Harrison County, > Kentucky. > > He married (1) Anna R. Shirley September 08, 1886; born Unknown; died May > > 26, 1891. He married (2) Callie Hall Abt. 1892; born September 18, 1874; > > died July 31, 1971. > > > > Notes for Charles Bradley Carroll: > > 1880 census of Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky shows that he could not > > read or write, but he is attending school. > > > > More About Charles Bradley Carroll: > > Census: 1880, Leesburg, Harrison County, Kentucky > > > > More About Charles Carroll and Anna Shirley: > > Marriage: September 08, 1886 > > More About Charles Carroll and Callie Hall: > > Marriage: Abt. 1892 > > > > 8 vii. Kathryn Fay, born 1860; died Bef. 1960 in Kentucky; Adopted child. > > Notes for Kathryn Fay: > > 1880 census of Harrison County, Kentucky shows that she is an adopted > > daughter of James Carroll and Jane Ervin Carroll (Hamilton). The census > also > > reveals that she is disabled and does her tailoring from her wheelchair. > > > > More About Kathryn Fay: > > Census: 1880, Harrison County, Kentucky > > Occupation: 1860, Taliorest > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: QUALLSjr@aol.com > > To: cathibeth@charter.net > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:11 PM > > Subject: James Carroll, KY > > > > > > Cathie: > > > > Do you have the names of any of James' children??? I am looking for a > James > > Carroll who was purported to have been in Warren County KY in 1833 where > his > > son Henry Clay Carroll, my 2nd great grandfather was born. Henry Clay > died > > in 1913 in Dallas County MO. His (Henry's) children's names were Mary, > > William, Cora Isabel (Called by Belle and Larrah), Sarah Jane (always > called > > Jane) Charley (Charles Washington), Martha, John Riley (and more, can't > > remember names right now). On Henry Clay's death cert he lists his > fathers > > name as Jas and his birth as Sept 1833 Warren Co, KY, supposedly from > around > > Bowling Green) which we have always taken to mean James, but have hit all > > dead ends in research in Warren Co KY. Do not know the name of Henry Clay > > Carroll's mother or siblings. > > > > Hoping to make a connection > > Blessings > > Sherry Carroll Qualls > > > > >