It is really fun to see if anyone in a family can trace their line back to someone who had a crest. Perhaps a few words of caution are in order. There are lots of commercial operations who will come up with a "crest" for any family. Many [?most?] crests were not "hereditary". That is, they did not pass on to the children. Those that were passed on usually only went to the oldest son. Since most crests were "individual" not "family", different people with the same last name often had different crests. There are a few authoritative texts. Major genealogy libraries usually carry them. It is probably best not to trust the "texts" often found in stores that sell crests. Juhling McClung At 12:33 PM 7/3/01 -0400, David Kinney wrote: >Greetings to one and all, > >I am new to this list, and before I ask for assistance, I believe it would be proper and polite to say a little about myself. My name is David Kinney, I live in Windsor, CT in the US. My great grandfather was Anthony Carroll, born somewhere around 1867 - 1869 in (I have been told) Rathdowney, Co. Laois. I am very happy and excited to have found this list and its associated web site(s). > >Now, as to my question, I am searching for a Carroll crest, and have so far found 3! I am trying to find the most appropriate to my ancestry, and, as my intent is to have this tattooed permanently on my person, getting it right is very important! Any help would be most appreciated. > >Slainte, > >David > > > >

Yup, couldn't have said it better myself. Crests were given to individuals for certain acts of bravery, heroism, or some other noteworthy deed. Most generally they just pertained to that one individual. On some occasions they were passed down to the eldest son. We, in this day and age, in this country, can't just order up a crest. Linda Carroll Bifulco ----- Original Message ----- From: "H. Juhling McClung" <mcclung.1@osu.edu> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Need Crest info > It is really fun to see if anyone in a family can trace their line back to > someone who had a crest. Perhaps a few words of caution are in order. > > There are lots of commercial operations who will come up with a "crest" for > any family. > Many [?most?] crests were not "hereditary". That is, they did not pass on > to the children. > Those that were passed on usually only went to the oldest son. > Since most crests were "individual" not "family", different people with the > same last name often had different crests. > There are a few authoritative texts. Major genealogy libraries usually > carry them. It is probably best not to trust the "texts" often found in > stores that sell crests. > > Juhling McClung > > At 12:33 PM 7/3/01 -0400, David Kinney wrote: > >Greetings to one and all, > > > >I am new to this list, and before I ask for assistance, I believe it would > be proper and polite to say a little about myself. My name is David Kinney, > I live in Windsor, CT in the US. My great grandfather was Anthony Carroll, > born somewhere around 1867 - 1869 in (I have been told) Rathdowney, Co. > Laois. I am very happy and excited to have found this list and its > associated web site(s). > > > >Now, as to my question, I am searching for a Carroll crest, and have so > far found 3! I am trying to find the most appropriate to my ancestry, and, > as my intent is to have this tattooed permanently on my person, getting it > right is very important! Any help would be most appreciated. > > > >Slainte, > > > >David > > > > > > > > >