I apologize to the mail list. I thought the letter I just wrote was a personal letter to Eric. I didn't notice until it was going out that it was also going to the mail list. So now you all know.... I'm too old to work in the yard!!!! Please forgive the personal note, Lura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lura" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor : Eric, : : On Duplin County, NC is 1783, My Alexander's marriage bond, the clerk : had written his name as "Carrol". However, at the bottom the person : signing as his bondsman, (his father I'm pretty sure) signed "Demcy : Carrel". That is the earliest signature I have of an ancestor. In : 1790 all ten families were listed on the cesus as Carrol. In 1800, : they were all Carrell. : : I pay no attention to spelling. Although R1b1, I still consider that : we MAY be French, Swiss, or no telling what! Actually, I think we : are Ulster Scots or "Scotch-Irish" as my father said. : : I'm not getting much done of late. Health has to catch up with me : occasionally. I tried to do a little in the yard.... can't do that : any more!! : : Lura : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Eric Olson" <[email protected]> : To: "genealogy-dna" <[email protected]>; "Carroll-l" : <[email protected]> : Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:02 AM : Subject: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor : : :: :: The Census Bureau tells me that surname Carrel is found at a : frequency of 1 / 4.35 million in the USA. At the time of the : Revolutionary War the total population in the Colonies was about : 300,000. I can roughly guesstimate then that there may have been : about 14 Carrels here in the 1780s, and perhaps 7 were male. Point is : they were rare. My ancestor Philip Carrel would be one of them. :: :: Now I find another Philip Carrel in the Maryland Archives of 1730. : Perhaps he is an ancestor, perhaps not. But the interesting thing is : that in the Maryland record Philip Carrel is in court charged with : fornication. (For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge)? :: :: This complicates my Y-DNA search for immigrant ancestor by haplotype : and surname. At the moment there are zero matches (except for a : cousin). If said fornication resulted in a male child, he could be : surnamed anything at all, but genetically related. :: :: Eric :: DY8VJ :: :: ------------------------------- :: To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to : [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the : quotes in the subject and the body of the message : :