Mike, Most men with the surname of Carroll may have a lineage that leads back to Ireland, but I don't believe we can assume that until the research is done. At least two CARROLLS have learned since taking the DNA test that their ancient background was from Eastern Europe. With that knowledge they searched and found the ancestor with the Germans in PA. John Kirrell and Richard Kirrill were stockholders in the Virginia Company of London and were in the Jamestown settlement by 1620. That does not prove they lived in England, but it seems that they might have. We have no idea yet where the Carrolls of Sampson County, NC were before coming to that area, so we can't assume an Irish Sept. My father did tell me that we were Scots-Irish, but his sister told me that we were descended from Charles Carroll of Carrollton! I have learned we can't depend on the stories we have been told, and I surely won't decide my ancestry on a gut feeling.... but I don't think there is any question about the facts on a DNA chart. Most court records and census returns are accurate, too. Genealogy relies on facts. When you have opportunity to research in places like the LDS Library, you might have better success if you study the court records, land records, census records, etc. where your earliest known ancestor Henry (according to the DNA chart) lived rather than trying to start in Ireland and come west from there. If you learn that Henry was the earliest ancestor on this continent, then try to find him on a ship list. I guess folks have different reasons for doing genealogy. If we set out to prove a forgone conclusion, we may be disappointed with the result. If we just want to know who we are, the end result will always be wonderful, because no matter what we learn about our ancestors, it won't change who they helped us to become. Lura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Carrroll" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Britton Carroll SC, Ga : Lura: : : I am not exactly discouraged. I am just stuck and still just going off : gut feelings. When I saw the similarities between my kit and the North : Carolina kits it reinforced my origins research direction of County : Down, County Louth and Couth Antrim. Since it is known that many of the : the early settlers of North America were from Northern Ireland, this : North Carolina group I assume originated from Northern Ireland. My : recently passed genealogist cousin from County Kildare said that she : relied on gut feelings. Back in 1999 she said that her gut feelings : told her that my Carroll's were from County Down. At that time, I did : not want to believe that since I assumed that my Carroll's came from : Central Ireland (County Offaly, County Tipperary) based on nothing. : However, with my increased education of the the five Carroll septs and : learning that County Louth is the homeland of the Oriel sept, I was : becoming convinced my cousin may be correct with her gut feeling. This : week I spent two days at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City : searching County Down Carroll's. I found Carrol's who were Presbytarian : and Carroll's that were Catholic. The only name that was common to the : Carroll's and the Carrol's were the name Elizabeth and Henry. Anyway, : I will keep searching until I strike at the truth . : : Regards, Mike Carroll