My "Carroll" started I believe as "Karol" or "Carle" in Central Europe, which simply means Charles or Carl. In colonial Pennsylvania it morphed into Carrol and Carrel. After 1812 the family was in that part of Jefferson County, Ohio, which became Carroll County in 1832, named after Charles Carroll of Carrollton who died in that year. By 1850 most of them had adopted the current Carroll spelling... They are not Irish... I use Soundex C640 for searches Eric > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Date: 10/10/2007 8:25:24 AM > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] From Carroll to Carrell? > > > With my family the change of spelling came when our Irish ancestors? Migrated to Canada.? They used a different last name [a 'dit ' name -? an 'otherwise know as..."? name]? of Rufiange (because they were refugees)?? while they were in Canada (supposedly hiding from the English who where in controll there during the early 1800's)? Then when they came to the USA, they passed themselves off as Canadian because the 'Irish were not welcome" and changed the spelling to Carrell. > > I am still looking for the connect to Ireland via France where the children were schooled. > > Good luck in your search, ? Joan > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 4:33 pm > Subject: [CARROLL] From Carroll to Carrell? > > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: jhcarrell > Surnames: Carrell, Carroll > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Can anyone give the definitive time when this variation came into being? > > This has been a greatly debated subject in my family's past generations. > > J.H. Carrell > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like > to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond > on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message