Larry Why do you think your James Madison is related to Bartholomew Carroll SR? Who was James married to ? When did James die? Did you search for an obit? Have you found any verivable siblings of James? Did you find James M. Carroll on any other census? Were there any siblings of James that they may have traveled with? Or his wife's family? Do you have his wife's maiden name? If you would answer each of the above questions it will give me something to start with to see if I have any information on your James M. Bettye L Carroll <[email protected]> wrote: Bettye, My James Madison Carroll put on a census out here in Cowlitz County, Washington that he was born in Kentucky. He also put that his mother was born in Kentucky, and his father was born in Virginia. According to his tomb stone, we took his death date minus his years, months, and days alive we came up with March 6, 1829 as his birth date. He got married out here in Cowlitz County, Washington Territory on November 9, 1854. We have all their children and etc. forward but we do not know who his parents were. He was out here before the civil war so there shouldn't be any military records on him. He was born before Virginia split into two states. So that is my brick wall for many many years. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Wingate" To: Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Virginia Families > Larry > If your James Madison Carroll was born in Ky do you know who his father > was? Bart Sr was in Dearborn CO. Indiana by 1818 according to his REV WAR > pension records. He then died 1827/1828 Johnson Co Ind. > > Who did James Madison marry? Who were his parents , did you find him on > any census records? Where was James M. living when he died? Was James M. > in the Civil War? > > I have approximately 10 file folders full of Carroll research. Maybe I > have something on a James Madison Carroll. > > I know these are a lot of questions but, I may have some info who knows. > > > Hope to hear from you soon. > > Bettye > > L Carroll wrote: > Bette, > I'm still looking for my ancestors for their period of time. > Bartholomew Sr. had sons named James, William,John and Samuel. > Some of their other sons named one son James Madison Carroll > My GGGrandfather was James Madison Carroll born in Kentucky we believe > March > 6, 1829. > We have 7 generations of James Madison Carroll in our line from him. > We have not proved or disproved we are related to Bartholomew's sons. > I hope one of the GGGrandsons of Bartholomew Carroll submits a DNA test to > see if I may match them. > That should prove or disprove it. > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bettye Wingate" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Virginia Families > > >> Larry >> What do you have in the 40 pages of Bartholomew Carroll? I have been in >> touch with Shirley Moore . She sent be the "One Zumwalt Family " book. >> Are you a descendant of Bartolomew ? Who have you descended from? >> >> Bettye >> >> L Carroll wrote: >> Bettye, >> I have a copy of about 40 pages entitled Descendants of Bartholomew >> Carroll, >> Sr. >> I believe I got my copy from Ken Keller or Ben and Shirley Moore on >> 11-17-2001 >> Larry >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bettye Wingate" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Virginia Families >> >> >>> Where are you getting the initials for the sources? >>> >>> Bettye >>> >>> L Carroll wrote: >>> Bettye, >>> I show Mary (Polly) Carroll born after 1786 married John James July 7, >>> 1820. >>> source of birth by K.K. >>> source of marriage by C.F. >>> K.K. I believe is Ken Keller >>> Not sure who C.F. is >>> Ken Keller has a full copy of the information on Bartholomew and >>> Catherine >>> Zumwalt. >>> Larry G. Carroll >>> [email protected] >>> p.s. There are 2 Larry G. Carrolls doing Carroll research. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bettye Wingate" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:29 AM >>> Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Virginia Families >>> >>> >>>> Larry >>>> Yes I am related to Bartholomew Carroll/Carrel/Carrol through Polly >>>> Carroll. I am trying to find documentation that polly is the daughter >>>> of >>>> Bartholomew Sr. and Catherine Zumwalt. I have an inclination that Polly >>>> maybe the daughter of one of Bart Sr. sons. Polly was born 1803 which >>>> makes Bart Sr. 81 and Catherine 59 . It is possible they could be >>>> Polly's >>>> parents but not likely. >>>> I have done a lot of research not only on BartSr. but the Carroll's >>>> that >>>> later went to Illinois, Missouri and Arkansas. >>>> >>>> I have not found any documentation about Bart Sr. prior to his marriage >>>> to Catherine . Do you have any information prior to his marriage to >>>> Catherine? >>>> >>>> >>>> Bettye >>>> >>>> >>>> Bettye, >>>> Are you related to Bartholomew Carrell/Carroll? >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:06 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Virginia Families >>>> >>>> >>>>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> Author: Ohibette >>>>> Surnames: >>>>> Classification: queries >>>>> >>>>> Message Board URL: >>>>> >>>>> http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4258.5/mb.ashx >>>>> >>>>> Message Board Post: >>>>> >>>>> I have Carroll/Carrel/Carrol/Carrell families in Augusta Frederick and >>>>> near by counties in 1774 to early 1800's . Bartholomew Carroll b 1722 >>>>> VA??? married Catherine Zumwalt. children Andrew b 1774, Barthlomew >>>>> Jr., >>>>> Adam, John, Polly, and Sarah all born in Va or Ky. 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