This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southard Surnames: CARROLL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7494/mb.ashx Message Board Post: When the last CARROLL message board posting that was gatewayed to the mail list arrived, I was reading on the same subject as stated in that letter, ".... England dumped their orphanages in America." According to Peter Wilson Coleman in his book "British Emigrants in Bondage 1614-1788" which was compiled from several of his earlier books, indeed, in 1597 an Elizabethan Act provided for the banishment of rogues and vagabonds to the American colonies. In the very earliest period men were selected for reprieve from the death sentence based on their ability to work and perform the tasks needed in the colonies. By 1619 the Governor of Virginia and James I agreed to send "desolate persons" to work on the plantations as servants. "This proved, from the Government's viewpoint, to be such a beneficial idea that it was extended in the following year to enable the rounding up and despatch to Virginia of one hundred children from the "swarming multitudes" in London "to redeem so many poor souls from misery and ruin." Coleman footnotes that statement as coming from "Acts of the Privy Council 1620." In his thirty years of searching in British archival records, Coleman has found the names of over 45,000 persons, mostly convicts but also vagabonds and orphans, who were brought to the American colonies against their will. At first they were sent with a person to guard and then dispose of them upon arrival in the colonies. Later the captain on the ship assumed that roll. Some were bound to individuals before sailing to work for a specified period of time and then be set free. Some were actually sold upon arrival in the colonies much as the slaves were. However, the difference was that they must be set free when they had finished their term of service. After the prisons of England were relieved of overcrowding, the Irish convicts were sent to work in the colonies. It sounds terrible, but I think it actually turned out to be a good solution to many problems. The disease infested prisons were emptied of those poor people who could not raise the money to pay their court costs to be released. The new territory had persons to clear the land and start a budding economy. The fresh air, exercise, and fresh food grew strong persons who had learned how to work in order to begin a new country. Why have I written all this?? Because many of us have been looking for our CARROLL ancestors who came on these ships! I know that doesn't set well with most of you!! Nevertheless, I hope you will consider it a badge of honor if you find a name you recognize in the list I will post in another message. Lura CARROLL Southard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bryant750 Surnames: Willie Carroll, Nelson Co, Buckingham Co, VA Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4476.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Willie A Carroll born abt 1850, Nelson County, VA. I have not tried to find a spouse. He is the son of George W Carroll and Mildred A. Woody. Mildred and George married 22 Sep 1845. Mildred died between 1860 and 1865 because he married Adeline Victory Terry 20 Sep 1865. Victoria does not appear on the 1870 Census with George Carroll but I found the marriage record. Children of George Carroll and Mildred A Woody are: Paul A Willie A Richard B George A E Mary E Children of George Washington Carroll and Adeline Victoria Terry are: James W, Nancy Ellen (my grandmother, married James M Bryant, Jr) Hartwell Omega Olivia (married my grandfather's brother, Patrick Henry Bryant, I cannot find him with Oliver/Livia; Nancy & Oliver married brothers, my grandfather, James M. Bryant, Jr & Patrick Henry Bryant). Octavia I was told G W and Victoria had 3 other children born after 1880, I haven't really looked at that very closely. I believe the father of George Washington was Joshua Carroll, Nelson County, VA. There were 3 Carrolls on the 1840 Census in Nelson County; Joshua, Henry, and William. I found no Census for Joshua or Henry in 1850 to indicate place of birth but William Carroll is on the 1850 Census, Nelson County, Birth Place Ireland. Does anyone know if these 3 men are brothers? Is Joshua the father of George W Bryant, was Joshua born in VA? Any information would be helpful. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Bryant750 Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4721.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I recently went to the Library of Virginia in Richmond. I learned that if a person who was or part native American with dark skin, they were labeled "black" or "mulatto". I found a marriage that indicated "black" but from the people in the marriage, I knew they were part Native American and inherited the dark skin. Also, lets face it, most of us have relatives who are other than "white". Not only did the male slave owners and overseers have sex (I use that term loosely) with the slaves, so did the females. At first I only looked at the white people that came up on Ancestry.com, then I realized I was missing vital information. If the Census taker was not familiar with the area that accepted inter-racial marriages, he would label them "black". The Native Americans were classed "black". How we quickly forget most of us came from slavery. Freedom is new, only about 200 years old unless you happened to have been part of the aristocracy. With the industrial revolution and! the rise of the middle class, the whites started demanding more freedom. Now we are going backwards, we hardly make ANYTHING in this country any more. I was doing research for an English Lit course on adoptees when I ran across the information that England dumped their orphanages in America. They needed the "hands" to work the farms. True the children could earn their freedom after 7 years, but they were still labeled "servants". If you want to know how the "white" people were treated in England, read Anne Perry's books. Many cannot trace their families any further than the shores of America because their ancestors were orphans. We had a continuation of "white" slavery here before we had "black" slavery. Now we have an illusion of freedom. If we fail to remember we are doomed to repeat. I thought the black slaves used the name of their BIOLOGICAL father. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I guess it would be to Bryant750, sorry about that. Karen Dougherty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Wingate" <ohibette@yahoo.com> To: <carroll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carroll's of Color Gee who are you directing your email to? When you post ont he carroll site it goes to all of us..... Bettye --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Karen Dougherty <geneobugkk902@pldi.net> wrote: From: Karen Dougherty <geneobugkk902@pldi.net> Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carroll's of Color To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, carroll@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 4:55 PM I have read this also. I also read that until later they didn't have a term for native american so tthe census taker not knowing what to put down called them black or colored a lot of times, thus sometimes leading people to believe that the person was of the "black" race, when sometimes they actually were native american or part native american. Not all the time, mind you, but some. Karen Dougherty ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carroll's of Color > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Bryant750 > Surnames: Carroll > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4721.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I recently went to the Library of Virginia in Richmond. I learned that if a person who was or part native American with dark skin, they were labeled "black" or "mulatto". I found a marriage that indicated "black" but from the people in the marriage, I knew they were part Native American and inherited the dark skin. Also, lets face it, most of us have relatives who are other than "white". Not only did the male slave owners and overseers have sex (I use that term loosely) with the slaves, so did the females. At first I only looked at the white people that came up on Ancestry.com, then I realized I was missing vital information. If the Census taker was not familiar with the area that accepted inter-racial marriages, he would label them "black". The Native Americans were classed "black". How we quickly forget most of us came from slavery. Freedom is new, only about 200 years old unless you happened to have been part of the aristocracy. With the industrial revolution and! > the rise of the middle class, the whites started demanding more freedom. Now we are going backwards, we hardly make ANYTHING in this country any more. I was doing research for an English Lit course on adoptees when I ran across the information that England dumped their orphanages in America. They needed the "hands" to work the farms. True the children could earn their freedom after 7 years, but they were still labeled "servants". If you want to know how the "white" people were treated in England, read Anne Perry's books. Many cannot trace their families any further than the shores of America because their ancestors were orphans. We had a continuation of "white" slavery here before we had "black" slavery. Now we have an illusion of freedom. If we fail to remember we are doomed to repeat. I thought the black slaves used the name of their BIOLOGICAL father. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARROLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARROLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARROLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have read this also. I also read that until later they didn't have a term for native american so tthe census taker not knowing what to put down called them black or colored a lot of times, thus sometimes leading people to believe that the person was of the "black" race, when sometimes they actually were native american or part native american. Not all the time, mind you, but some. Karen Dougherty ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carroll's of Color > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Bryant750 > Surnames: Carroll > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4721.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I recently went to the Library of Virginia in Richmond. I learned that if a person who was or part native American with dark skin, they were labeled "black" or "mulatto". I found a marriage that indicated "black" but from the people in the marriage, I knew they were part Native American and inherited the dark skin. Also, lets face it, most of us have relatives who are other than "white". Not only did the male slave owners and overseers have sex (I use that term loosely) with the slaves, so did the females. At first I only looked at the white people that came up on Ancestry.com, then I realized I was missing vital information. If the Census taker was not familiar with the area that accepted inter-racial marriages, he would label them "black". The Native Americans were classed "black". How we quickly forget most of us came from slavery. Freedom is new, only about 200 years old unless you happened to have been part of the aristocracy. With the industrial revolution and! > the rise of the middle class, the whites started demanding more freedom. Now we are going backwards, we hardly make ANYTHING in this country any more. I was doing research for an English Lit course on adoptees when I ran across the information that England dumped their orphanages in America. They needed the "hands" to work the farms. True the children could earn their freedom after 7 years, but they were still labeled "servants". If you want to know how the "white" people were treated in England, read Anne Perry's books. Many cannot trace their families any further than the shores of America because their ancestors were orphans. We had a continuation of "white" slavery here before we had "black" slavery. Now we have an illusion of freedom. If we fail to remember we are doomed to repeat. I thought the black slaves used the name of their BIOLOGICAL father. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARROLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gee who are you directing your email to?  When you post ont he carroll site it goes to all of us..... Bettye --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Karen Dougherty <geneobugkk902@pldi.net> wrote: From: Karen Dougherty <geneobugkk902@pldi.net> Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carroll's of Color To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, carroll@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 4:55 PM     I have read this also. I also read that until later they didn't have a term for native american so tthe census taker not knowing what to put down called them black or colored a lot of times, thus sometimes leading people to believe that the person was of the "black" race, when sometimes they actually were native american or part native american. Not all the time, mind you, but some.   Karen Dougherty ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carroll's of Color > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Bryant750 > Surnames: Carroll > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4721.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I recently went to the Library of Virginia in Richmond.  I learned that if a person who was or part native American with dark skin, they were labeled "black" or "mulatto".  I found a marriage that indicated "black" but from the people in the marriage, I knew they were part Native American and inherited the dark skin.  Also, lets face it, most of us have relatives who are other than "white". Not only did the male slave owners and overseers have sex (I use that term loosely) with the slaves, so did the females.  At first I only looked at the white people that came up on Ancestry.com, then I realized I was missing vital information.  If the Census taker was not familiar with the area that accepted inter-racial marriages, he would label them "black".  The Native Americans were classed "black".  How we quickly forget most of us came from slavery.  Freedom is new, only about 200 years old unless you happened to have been part of the aristocracy.  With the industrial revolution and! >   the rise of the middle class, the whites started demanding more freedom. Now we are going backwards, we hardly make ANYTHING in this country any more.  I was doing research for an English Lit course on adoptees when I ran across the information that England dumped their orphanages in America. They needed the "hands" to work the farms.   True the children could earn their freedom after 7 years, but they were still labeled "servants".  If you want to know how the "white" people were treated in England, read Anne Perry's books.  Many cannot trace their families any further than the shores of America because their ancestors  were orphans.  We had a continuation of "white" slavery here before we had "black" slavery.  Now we have an illusion of freedom.  If we fail to remember we are doomed to repeat.  I thought the black slaves used the name of their BIOLOGICAL father. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARROLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARROLL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Parkdale Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7493/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL Velma J and John H I photographed this gravestone in the Parkdale Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,767 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com . If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sfavrot Surnames: Carroll, Beard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7492/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to establish the ancestry of my 5th great-grandmother, Mary Hughes Carroll, who was married to Hugh Beard. I don't have vital statistics on either of them, but I believe they would have been born in the 1700's. I've always been told she was related to Charles Carroll of Carrollton, and would like to establish a connection. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Parkdale Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7490/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL John H 1921-1988 I photographed this gravestone in the Parkdale Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,767 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com . If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Parkdale Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7489/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL Kristi Machal 1966-1966 I photographed this gravestone in the Parkdale Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,767 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com . If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PenniBrewer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7488/mb.ashx Message Board Post: that married sarah Quiller in 1885 in Coffee county Al. She live in Victory Al in coffee county al. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grahamsimons Surnames: Rich Picot Simons Bayard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/3381.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It may be a bit late to reply, but I am interested in Henry Bayard Rich because he married a Simons. I'm 99% certain there was no surviving issue of the marriage, as Henry was killed quite soon after the marriage and there is no mention of children that I have seen. My notes are: Mentioned in his father-in-law's Will of 1890 as already deceased. In fact he died 1884 from the effects of an accident at polo in Rawalpindi d of b and service from Army List, confirmed from EIC biographical data at British Library; Berbice is in the East of present Guyana, suggesting that his father had been serving there (and raising interesting issues of where the parents met) He was promoted Lieutenant 8/1/1870 and Capt 8/1/1882 Played as a forward in the 1872 FA Cup final Royal Engineers v Wanderers (lost 1-0) at Kennington Oval, 16/3/1872 1871 Census at School of Military Engineering; recorded as born S America Berboce British Subject (should read Berbice) Obit "The late Capt Rich, who was the son of Col F. H. Rich RE was educated at Marlborough and entered the RMA in 1867. He was gazetted lieutenant in 1870 and promoted captain in 1882. He saw active service in three campaigns - the Perak expedition of 1875-6 (for which he was Mentioned in Despatches and gained a medal with clasp), the Zulu war of 1879 (medal), and the Egyptian expedition of 1882 (medal and bronze star). He was killed at Rawal Pindi (sic) on the afternoon of 17th November by a violent collision with another officer, by which Captain Rich was flung to the ground and his skull was fractured." He was buried in Rawalpindi. Marlborough College Register has him entered April 1864, left December 1866.It repeats campaign record. He married Ada Melvill SIMONS Q2 1881 in Camberwell. Ada Melvill SIMONS, daughter of Henry Minchin SIMONS (1824-1901) and Caroline MELVILL (1832-1916), was born on 9 October 1859 in Singapore. She married Francis Slater PICOT on 16 July 1888. She died on 6 February 1915 in South Kensington. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42OakGrove_DentonCoTX Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7487/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL Margarette B 1918 1919 dau of R A and Blanche Carroll David Strickland photographed this gravestone in the Oak Grove Cemetery, Denton Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,766 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com - If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42OakGrove_DentonCoTX Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7486/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL Robert Anthony 1924 Oklahoma sgt 265 Depot Brig David Strickland photographed this gravestone in the Oak Grove Cemetery, Denton Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,766 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com - If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42RoseHill Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7485/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL Joann 1943- I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,524 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com . If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jimgum Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/478.486/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a direct descendent of Noah B. and William James Carroll. I just visited the cemetery of William Moses Carroll (My GGG) and learned that his father was Noah and mother Hannah Green. Just trying to fill in some blanks. Jim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Darlene_Garrity Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7484/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for information on descendants of Helga Carroll (married name). She was born in Nome, Alaska. Her son Jack was adopted by step father Tom Carroll. Jack Carroll was maried to Mary Pastorius Carroll. They had three children Sue, Jack and Dan. I am looking for any information on Sue Carroll who would be about 50 years old now. I have some things that belonged to her Grandmother, Helga and would like to see that she gets them. Contact me at onoim70 at yahoo.com . Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Parkdale Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7483/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL Shannon Lucretia 1971-1971 I photographed this gravestone in the Parkdale Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,355 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com . If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southard Surnames: CARROLL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7482/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Over 100 men with the Carroll surname have now had their Y-DNA tested through FamilyTree DNA and are part of the CARROLL Project. This means as new men are tested, there is a good chance they will be able to find a match. So many came to the North American Continent before good records were kept, and especially those who went to the south and southwest, did not keep good family records. Therefore, DNA may be the only way to find relatives... and some of us have! How many alleles (markers) does a person need to test to verify a match? It has become very evident testing 12 doesn't prove much at all except the ancient background. Most have learned that one needs at least 37, and 67 is better. On another project I learned that FTDNA is offering special prices on upgrades THIS WEEK only. You can read more about that at http://www.worldfamilies.net/blog/upgrade-sale If you have tested 12, 25, or 37 markers with FTDNA, you can probably find those special prices on your personal web page that you will use for ordering the upgrade. These prices seem to last only until Saturday, May 23, so if you want to upgrade some day, this might be the week to do that. I am not connected in any way to FTDNA. I would just love to see more CARROLL tests for comparison. Lura Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chstirton Surnames: Morris Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7404.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found your query when I was searching for Eleanor Morris. I was recently in Wells England and visited the Wells Museum behind the Abbey. There is currently an exhibition of samplers on show. One that attracted my attention was by Eleanor Morris, whom I think is the ancestors you refer to. What intrigued me was the lovely needlework inscription which read: Eleanot Morris is my name, Wales is my nation, Carmarthenshire my dwelling place and Christ is my salvation. When I am dead and in my grave and all my bones are rotten in this sampler you will find my name when I am quite forgotten". dated 1826. It has a wool backing and is embroidered with silk threads worked in cross, satin and stem stitch. I hope this is of interest. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.