>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:28:36 -0700 >From: Gary Barnes <Summit1@pacbell.net> >Subject: [CARROLL] Ontario/KS Carrolls > >Looking for the children of Patrick Carroll who came from Goderich, >Huron Co. Ontario CAN to KS. > >His children were: > > Joseph Wilson Carroll b 25 Apr 1849 > Mary Carroll b 3 APr 1851 > Elizabeth Anne Carroll b 3 Jun 1852 > John Wright Carroll b 4 Aug. 1853 > Thomas Carroll b 3 Apr 1856 > William Seymore Carroll b 18 Jan 1862 > George Brown Carroll b 22 Oct. 1866 > Patrick Carroll b ? > > All born in Huron Co. Ontario Can. > >Mother was ELizabeth Elliot from Ire- TIPP Co. >Clonmore/Templemore Parish poss. town of Kiltillane > >Any help appreciated. > >GB > ============ Gary: I'm always interested in any Canadian Carrolls. This family, however, doesn't appear anywhere in my database (which is admittedly sparse in areas). Do you know anything about Patrick himself? When and where born? Who his parents were? Any names, ages of siblings? Assuming Patrick married about 1847/8, he might have been born in the early 1820s. Given the name "Joseph Wilson", "Joseph" might have been his father's name and "Wilson" his mother's maiden name. Etc, etc...... Most of the names of the children are legion in my database. If I could connect, I'd be happy to provide anything relevant. Thanks. ---------- Joe Minnetonka, MN

Gary; Where is Kansas did they move to? Do you know where Patrick was born? My gg-grandmother was born in Jackson County, IL and ended up in Jackson County, KS. Gayle

Looking for information on the family of Frank Sivester Carroll and Maggie Ann Merley. Their children were Sigal Bernice Carroll, Grover Cleveland Carroll, Ethel Carroll, and Lawrence Carroll.

Looking for the children of Patrick Carroll who came from Goderich, Huron Co. Ontario CAN to KS. His children were: Joseph Wilson Carroll b 25 Apr 1849 Mary Carroll b 3 APr 1851 Elizabeth Anne Carroll b 3 Jun 1852 John Wright Carroll b 4 Aug. 1853 Thomas Carroll b 3 Apr 1856 William Seymore Carroll b 18 Jan 1862 George Brown Carroll b 22 Oct. 1866 Patrick Carroll b ? All born in Huron Co. Ontario Can. Mother was ELizabeth Elliot from Ire- TIPP Co. Clonmore/Templemore Parish poss. town of Kiltillane Any help appreciated. GB

amennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn -----Original Message----- From: Lura C. Southard <southard@interpath.com> To: CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 27, 2000 4:26 PM Subject: [CARROLL] Genealogy Survival Game >Dear Carroll listers, > >I would like to find a CARROLL relation to each of you, because you are such a caring bunch of folks! I have received many letters answering the question I asked a few days ago and expressing concern that I might have been offended by one response. I wrote: >"In this genealogy survival game we learn as we go along, right?? Well, I'm >just trying to learn. >Would you please tell me what the letters "FHC" represent?" > >I believe that many of you were like me and at first misunderstood the following response. At first I thought I had offended the writer by saying that "we learn as we go along." Then one of you pointed out to me the word "show" in the answer. > >You see, I like to have fun, so I had done a take-off on the Survivor Show when I said "genealogy survival game." I believe the responder also has a sense of humor, so he/she wrote: >"lets leave that idiot show out of this." > >I have no animosity about this response. I see no reason that I should allow that person, or anyone else, to ever control my feelings enough to cause me bitterness or anger. I hope those of you who were upset by this, will forgive, forget, and get on with the pursuit of your ancestors. Don't allow one response to cause you to leave the mail list and miss out on an opportunity to find a way over one of your brick walls. > >I do thank you for caring! >Lura >"A MERRY HEART DOETH GOOD LIKE A MEDICINE." Prov.17:22 >Lura C. Southard >southard@interpath.com > > > >

We have a photograph in our files that we found in our Wilson Family photos. The date is 1906. It is a public school building. The families involved in that line involve a long list - Wilson, Tompkins, Fickle, Madden, Carroll, Loughrey, Barnett, and many more. We created a webpage to house the picture in the hopes that some of you, someone, anywhere, might know where the building is located and the history behind it (OK, that is a long shot, but here goes....) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sabthomp/mysterybldg.htm Thanks ahead of time for taking a moment to view it. Mary and Don in Wyoming

Dear Carroll listers, I would like to find a CARROLL relation to each of you, because you are such a caring bunch of folks! I have received many letters answering the question I asked a few days ago and expressing concern that I might have been offended by one response. I wrote: "In this genealogy survival game we learn as we go along, right?? Well, I'm just trying to learn. Would you please tell me what the letters "FHC" represent?" I believe that many of you were like me and at first misunderstood the following response. At first I thought I had offended the writer by saying that "we learn as we go along." Then one of you pointed out to me the word "show" in the answer. You see, I like to have fun, so I had done a take-off on the Survivor Show when I said "genealogy survival game." I believe the responder also has a sense of humor, so he/she wrote: "lets leave that idiot show out of this." I have no animosity about this response. I see no reason that I should allow that person, or anyone else, to ever control my feelings enough to cause me bitterness or anger. I hope those of you who were upset by this, will forgive, forget, and get on with the pursuit of your ancestors. Don't allow one response to cause you to leave the mail list and miss out on an opportunity to find a way over one of your brick walls. I do thank you for caring! Lura "A MERRY HEART DOETH GOOD LIKE A MEDICINE." Prov.17:22 Lura C. Southard southard@interpath.com

Well said, Calvin....on with the research! Jessie -----Original Message----- From: CALVIN E PHILLIPS [SMTP:PHILLIPSCALVIN@prodigy.net] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 5:18 PM To: CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CARROLL] Listowner Comments I think a few comments are in order regarding the recent bit of unpleasantness. My wife (a CARROLL descendant) and I started this List several years ago, because we thought it would be useful in CARROLL family research, and - because no one else seemed to want to do it! We continue to volunteer our time (mostly mine) and money (mostly ours) to support it with minimal rules. There are, however, two that I insist on: 1) the List is for CARROLL genealogy and submissions are to be directly related to that topic and 2) unpleasant postings will NOT be tolerated. If a someone has something derogatory to say to another subscriber (including the Listowner), say it personally and directly, not to the entire List. Regarding the recent postings: First, the question about the FHC was entirely appropriate. I'm sure that there were others who might have had the same question. Further, it is hard to imagine anyone doing serious research who does not find the Family History Centers a valuable resource. Second, the first response to that question was entirely inappropriate-that individual was removed from the subscriber list. Third, I consider a couple of the dissertations that followed also inappropriate - those senders were also unsubscribed. Further, this is not a "moderated" List. I do not "filter" or attempt to "police" material sent to the List. I see a message at the same time everyone else does. It is my philosophy that the members of the List are, for the vast part, intelligent adults doing serious CARROLL family genealogy research. Enough said. Cal phillipscalvin@prodigy.net

Well, I think y'all are making a BIG mistake. The person's comment was misunderstood, and I think everyone that got all bent out of shape over it ought to be ashamed. It was just a poor attempt at humor. The phrase "that idiot show" was referring to the show SURVIVOR, which was a word the previous person had used in a comment. So, it was just someone's lame attempt at poking fun at the show "Survivor," I believe, and nothing more. (I admit I had a hard time understanding what he meant at first, too.)

Good afternoon list, My Martin CARROLL (1810-1881) and his wife Margaret (1813-1889) immigrated to Iowa ca 1852 with their daughters young daughters Mary, Bridget and Julia. Mary (born ca 1845) married M W SHEEHAN Bridget (born ca 1846) married Daniel MADDEN Julia (born ca 1848) married Edward MACKIN Any connections? Gerry

Oh gosh I don't think so! Try the Carroll website sent to the list a few minutes ago. I believe those Carroll's came here about that time! As for Maddens, I have a Hezekiah Madden, born August 6, 1812 in Virginia and died May 10, 1891 in Rawles Twp, Mills County, Iowa. He is buried in the Malvern Cemetery. In between Virginia and IA, they were in Muskegum County, OH; Putnam County, OH and then to Mills County in 1864. His wife's name was Mary. They travelled throughout these counties/states with the Fickle, Barnett and Wilson families. I left our letters intact below as I am sending this back to the Carroll List and on to the Madden list. Mary >Good afternoon Mary and Don, > >I've nothing more specific for Martin and Margaret Carroll's origins than a >mention in Martin's obit of >County Kerry. I have info relating to their life in Burlington, IA but >nothing prior to that. > >Daniel Madden born ca. 1847 in Ireland, 1868 first time listed in the >Burlington City Directory as laborer at railroad, 1868 filed a Declaration >of Intent in Des Moines County, Iowa; 1869 he and Bridget married in >Burlington, had two children; ca 1875 living in Topeka Kansas, had four more >children; ca.1881-1895 lived in Kansas City, Missouri; moved to Chicago at >the turn of the century (as did several of the children); died in 1912. > >Think there is a connection? > >Gerry in Jefferson City > >----- Original Message ----- >Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:28 PM >Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carrolls in Iowa > > >> I would like to know more about your Carroll line and your Madden line. >> >> I have Carroll line which starts in PA, then goes to OH, then ILL and >> onward. Also have a Madden line which I am currently researching. Lots >of >> these people went to Iowa. > > >

I just visited your wonderful site. Wish I could say - YES, we are connected. At the same time I cannot say NO. Our Carroll's were here before 1801. To do a quick rundown, going backwards: Rebecca Carroll, born 1825 in Licking County, OH; married 1842 in Bureau County, ILL to Isaac Tompkins. She is buried at Fairview Cemetery at Annawan, Henry County, ILL. Her parents were James Carroll, born 1796 in Allegheny County PA. Married Ellen Loughrey in 1822 in Licking County, PA. They are buried at Fairview Cemetery at Annaway, Henry County, ILL.His parents were John Carroll, born 1775 in Cumberland or Westmoreland Co, PA. Married Rebecca Ryan about 1795 in Allegheny County, PA. His parents were probably James Carroll and a Margaret. Some of the early information has been sent to me, not confirmed by me. The last name was spelled Carroll and Carrell, sometimes by members of the same branch! Thanks for the note! And your site is great! Thank you for all your efforts. Mary and Don in Wyoming

In the 1860 Effingham Co. ILL Census is this listing for a Sterling CARROLL, Ewington, HSEhold # 799 CARROLL, Sterling 30 Farm Laborer personal es400 Tenn Sarah 29 Dom Tenn Mary 9 ILL Garrot, Francis 4 ILL Bryson 17 Day Laborer Tenn 1850 Census Effingham Co. ILL Household 495/495 Sterling CARLE 21 M farmer Tenn Sarah 18 f Tenn 1850 Census Household # 716/716 Nathan SKEPPER 45 M farmer NC (Skipper????) Frances 44 f Tenn Catharine 21 f " Matilda J 17 f " Wesley J 15 m " D Elizabeth 12 f " Nathan 10 m " Thomas S 9 m " Luther S 7 m " Frances 5 f " Louisa 3 f " Martha A 3 f " Sarah M 4/12 " Harting CARROLL 20 m Farmer " Sarah 18 f "

I would like to know more about your Carroll line and your Madden line. I have Carroll line which starts in PA, then goes to OH, then ILL and onward. Also have a Madden line which I am currently researching. Lots of these people went to Iowa. Mary and Don in Wyoming >Good afternoon list, > >My Martin CARROLL (1810-1881) and his wife Margaret (1813-1889) immigrated >to Iowa ca 1852 with their daughters young daughters Mary, Bridget and >Julia. > >Mary (born ca 1845) married M W SHEEHAN >Bridget (born ca 1846) married Daniel MADDEN >Julia (born ca 1848) married Edward MACKIN > >Any connections? > >Gerry > >

I think a few comments are in order regarding the recent bit of unpleasantness. My wife (a CARROLL descendant) and I started this List several years ago, because we thought it would be useful in CARROLL family research, and - because no one else seemed to want to do it! We continue to volunteer our time (mostly mine) and money (mostly ours) to support it with minimal rules. There are, however, two that I insist on: 1) the List is for CARROLL genealogy and submissions are to be directly related to that topic and 2) unpleasant postings will NOT be tolerated. If a someone has something derogatory to say to another subscriber (including the Listowner), say it personally and directly, not to the entire List. Regarding the recent postings: First, the question about the FHC was entirely appropriate. I'm sure that there were others who might have had the same question. Further, it is hard to imagine anyone doing serious research who does not find the Family History Centers a valuable resource. Second, the first response to that question was entirely inappropriate-that individual was removed from the subscriber list. Third, I consider a couple of the dissertations that followed also inappropriate - those senders were also unsubscribed. Further, this is not a "moderated" List. I do not "filter" or attempt to "police" material sent to the List. I see a message at the same time everyone else does. It is my philosophy that the members of the List are, for the vast part, intelligent adults doing serious CARROLL family genealogy research. Enough said. Cal phillipscalvin@prodigy.net

I agree with you one hundred and ten percent. And I would like to thank you for taking a stand. I am new to this list also and I thought that it was VERY rude of who ever it was that sent that message! ALSO to whomever the owner is of this site. I agree that the message should have never gotten through. Bad behavior and bad business. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN for taking the time to care and to show someone else that all CARROLLS arent jerks. Most of us are actually pretty nice. Sherry Hartman

UNSUBSCRIBE: DITTO: -- Esther Fetsko ---USA LINE--------------Smith,Gallagher,Baker,Carroll Surnames-------------------- KATE OR KATHERINE SMITH,b?,d.?,PHILADELPHIA(additional info limited) m.JOHN GALLAGHER,b?d?,Phila, (No additional info known) CHILDREN: CATHERINE nee GALLAGHER, BAKER,b.4/1889, Phila,m.HOWARD BAKER,b.4/1886 Media.CHLD:Lewis,Ernie,Margret,(my grandmother) b,1917, Media,m.John J.Carroll, b,1912,Clifton,d.1982,CHLD:JOHN,(my father), Charles, Catherine, Sharon. ---Glst, UK LINE--------------Swan,Smith,Platt Surnames----------------------------- ELIZABETH SWAN,b.1860-1880?(additional info limited) m.EDGAR SMITH,b.1860,Gr.Sommersford,d.1948, CHLD:FREDERICK,b.4/11/1912,Priory Rd, Glst, Caroline,b,1905?,Lower Westgate St, Glst,(age:94),m.31/1/1931Reginal Platt,b.1902,Swindon,d.1959,Swindon, CHLD:Lilly,Barbara nee Platt Carroll,Wiltershire,b.1933,(my mom),Tina, George,Rose, Daniel, Mary,Esther(an aunt)..

unsubscribe I Subscribe to this for GENALOGY Reason, not for cat fights... Lura C. Southard, my heart felt apology from a Carroll Researcher. Barbara Carroll

Lister's, We have to learn to be kind on these lists as all of us are learning regardless of how long we have being doing this. We were all green horns at one time and it would be appreciated if those of us who are intolerant keep their opinion to themselves or use their expertise to help those in need. A simple answer would of surficed. This list as well as the many that are out there are for those who have questions and none of them and I emphasize none of them are to be obused or offensive to others,otherwise the list owner will have the right to unsubscribe you,to which I ask, who is the list owner and why was BOB DYLANS message allowed to go out? I think an apology is in order to Lura from both parties. I as a lister will apology for them if it helps. Most of the time Laura, we arn't rude. to answer your question, yes, they are one and the same. Some call them FHC and other's LDS but its the same facility. Please don't let this hinder you from referring to the list again. Sometimes you come across a nasty weed in your garden, but it doesn't make the garden any less lovely. Esther Please believe me, I meant no offense. I just wondered what FHC represented. Lura Lura C. Southard southard@interpath.com * * * * * * * * * > In a message dated 8/24/00 2:46:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > southard@interpath.com writes: > > << In this genealogy survival game we learn as we go along, right? >> > > what lets leave that idiot show out of this > all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some > malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-fed dis- fa > rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- > ____________________________________ > "we go to school to learn the words of fools" > bob dylan -- Esther Fetsko ---USA LINE--------------Smith,Gallagher,Baker,Carroll Surnames-------------------- KATE OR KATHERINE SMITH,b?,d.?,PHILADELPHIA(additional info limited) m.JOHN GALLAGHER,b?d?,Phila, (No additional info known) CHILDREN: CATHERINE nee GALLAGHER, BAKER,b.4/1889, Phila,m.HOWARD BAKER,b.4/1886 Media.CHLD:Lewis,Ernie,Margret,(my grandmother) b,1917, Media,m.John J.Carroll, b,1912,Clifton,d.1982,CHLD:JOHN,(my father), Charles, Catherine, Sharon. ---Glst, UK LINE--------------Swan,Smith,Platt Surnames----------------------------- ELIZABETH SWAN,b.1860-1880?(additional info limited) m.EDGAR SMITH,b.1860,Gr.Sommersford,d.1948, CHLD:FREDERICK,b.4/11/1912,Priory Rd, Glst, Caroline,b,1905?,Lower Westgate St, Glst,(age:94),m.31/1/1931Reginal Platt,b.1902,Swindon,d.1959,Swindon, CHLD:Lilly,Barbara nee Platt Carroll,Wiltershire,b.1933,(my mom),Tina, George,Rose, Daniel, Mary,Esther(an aunt)..

This message was bounced to me and I thought everyone on the List would be interested. Just a note, in order to send a message/query to the entire CARROLL List, you need to be subscribed. Cal Phillips, Listowner/Admin. phillipscalvin@prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: E Carroll <tarbh@hotmail.com> To: howmelgam@erols.com <howmelgam@erols.com> Cc: CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, August 24, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: Carroll Surname >I am forwarding your message to the Carroll listserve at rootsweb. >There are lots of researchers of the surname who get/receive email through >that group. >I decend from 2 distinct Carroll families....One entering Virginia in the >mid 1700's who later migrated to Kentucky....and another who arrived in >North Carolina in the mid 1700's and never left. >We are southern to the bone. >Lots of Luck, >Evelyn Carroll, >Houston, Texas > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Howard Gamertsfelder <howmelgam@erols.com> >To: tarbh@hotmail.com >Subject: Carroll Surname >Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:15:27 -0400 > >My mother is a Carroll - her parents, born about 1880 were from >Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Might you have any leads to help me track down >a line from that area? Many thanks. > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. >