My wife Helen and I have finally returned to our "most of the year" home in Corpus Christi. I want to first of all apologize to anyone who may have tried to contact me and didn't get a response. Most likely your e-mail was lost in "laptop land"! We have spent the summer at our "part of the year" home north of Seattle, where we do not have land-based telephones and only a facility where we can connect a lap- top for a brief time to download e-mail. Net result of all that was frequent loss of e-mail and difficult communication. Cal Phillips phillipscalvin@prodigy.net

I am seeking information on Margaret CARROLL. She married William Ferguson, possibly in Jefferson County, OH. I am descended from their son, Robert, who married Elizabeth PORTER in Jefferson County in 1827. Margaret's husband died in November 1868 in Jeff Co, and his will is on file. I have not seen the will, but have it ordered. I have been told that Margaret is not listed, so she must have predeceased her husband. Any help with thsi line would be greatly appreciated! Laura

In a message dated 10/20/00 11:48:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kenheslin@prodigy.net writes: << ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Lyons" <jlyons1@iol.ie> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 11:23 AM Subject: [IRELAND] The Foundling Hospital - a repost. > Those who entered the workhouses were not just Catholics - they were poor > people of all religions. There was only one recognised religion in Ireland > and it has to be remembered that no matter what religion you practised if > you were not Church of Ireland you were in the same boat as the Catholics. > This is not just true of Ireland at that time, it is also true of England. > Anyone in England who was not Church of England fared as badly as did > Catholics in Ireland if they were poor to start with. > > What is written here can be compared with other parts of the world today - > India with all her poverty and other countries such as Romania where so many > children were kept in orphanages in the past. > > Here in Ireland - we have children living on the streets today - as you do > whoever you are and whatever part of the world you live in. > > Jane > ------------- > The Foundling Hospital: was part of the Dublin workhouse. It was so named in > 1730. Children received into it were foundlings and all illigitimate. > > There were not supposed to be babies amongst them, as children under the age > of 6 supposed to be cared for by their own parishes. In each parish > Churchwardens employed a woman. the 'lifter' and it was her job to go round > the Parish at night 'lifting' any babies she found lying about. She brought > them to the next Parish and dumped them! Sometimes she placed a lump of > narcotic called diacodioum in the mouth to stupify the child and stop it > from crying There were also times that the 'lifter' in the second parish > found the child and dumped it somewhere else if not back in its own. One > woman had 'lifted' 27 children one year, and 7 died in her hands. These > women knew nothing of what happened the chldren once they dumped them.... > > > Babies were brought to the Foundling Hospital in Dublin and they were fed on > Panda..(bread and milk)...At an inquiry in 1797 the matron said the diet was > unfit to sustain life! The feeding of panda to children had been carried out > for 67 years > > Ghastly happenings were reported from the Foundling Hospital: once 13 babies > bodies found buried in a pit. A workman found two dead infants wrapped in a > cloth, these were identified by the marks on their arms,. Babies were > 'branded' before being sent out of this place to nurses around the city to > be minded. > Children from all over the country were brought to this workhouse, carried > by women in baskets, just thrown into the basket, up to 8 at a time. Some > found dead on arrival or seriously injured. > > At an inquiry 1797:it was reported that corpses were thrown into a hole and > covered with quick lime. > > >From 1750-1760: 7,781 admitted; 3,797 died..and 3,932 put out to nurse. > > Mothers often tried to get their children back, usually they didn't. > > Older workhouse children were fed: > Breakfast: 1/4 lb porridge and a pint of milk > Dinner: pint of milk porridge > Supper: 1/4lb bread, spread with fresh butter > 3oz cheese twice a week > Older children still: > 1/2 pint beer & 1/4 lb bread (beer not very strong) > > Comments from inmates and experts or people who had anything to do with it > in later years. > Food always bad, cockroaches, crickets, earwigs. Stirabout thin and watery > full of lumps. Maggots in bread,, meat often stinking. > Clothes: for girls very scanty. One petticoat, which was last years frock. > Neither frocks nor coats worn by boys were lined. No waistocats. > Children in the infirmary slept on straw, thrown on the bed. One thin > underblanket and another thin blanket for covering. When a child died, it's > boots and stockings and linen weren't buried with it but passed on to other > children. > > Overcrowding was dreadful. 4-8 to one bed. The windows in the room where > children assembled in the morning were broken. > Childrens feet covered with sores, and their hands were often so swollen > that they could not draw the thread sewing. They were afflicted with the > 'itch'. (Today the 'itch' would refer to scabies which does occur on the > hands) > > The children were savagely punished at times: one boy complained about > badness of bread and he got 20 lashes with cat of 9 tails. Children were > stripped to waist and lashed, a 7-8 yr old got 8-9 lashes for being slow to > go to bed. An older offender got 60 lashes and had an iron weight tied to > his leg. > > One part of house was known as 'Bedlam'..reserved for lunatics. Children > were sent there for complaining (considered refractory): this place even > dustier, darker and more generally uncomfortable. The children dreaded > confinement in this place. > > Two old women, both infirm, minded 60 sick children under 8 years of age in > the infirmary. The beds were filthy. > > The 'dead hole' was a step or two from the infirmary door. A carpenter once > told someone that he had seen three dead children in a bed. One witness > declared that he had seen 30-35 dead children come away for burial at one > time. > > > > ==== IRELAND Mailing List ==== > De nobis fabula narratur, their story is our story > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ireland > A must for the serious researcher of Irish ancestors > >> all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

Dottie and John Himes Ozark, AR djhimes@ipa.net

Sorry, Posted a Will for John Carrell today in Johnston County NC and the year for it was 1817 which I neglected to mention. Will of William Carrell for Johnston County dated 1809 Wife, Sarah ]Daughter Mary "of William Hunt" Daughter Bethany "of Edward Prather" Has a grandson, "orphan of my son John Carrell dec'd" Son, Mitchell Carrell Son James Carrell Son William Carrell William Carrell named as sole executor Kathy

I have been unable to find any descendants of my great-grandmother's siblings. Does anyone trace back to a Peggy/Margaret Carroll, Denis Carroll, Ellen Carroll - all born to Denis Carroll and Margaret Kennedy Carroll between 1813-1826 or to Edmond Carroll born 1827 Catherine Carroll born 1830 Mary Carroll born 1832 Anthony Carroll born 1837? I keep hoping someone from that family will begin a search. Jan janfortado@mediaone.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <CARROLL-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CARROLL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:00 PM Subject: CARROLL-D Digest V00 #128

Thank you for posting this will abstract. What is the date of the will, please? Lura C. Southard southard@interpath.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Casagranda" <butte@gci.net> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:19 PM Subject: [CARROLL] Wills Johnston County, NC > I have recieved the following Wills. Would be interested with anyone > related to these families. > > John Carrell, > Daughter Sally Carrell wife of Mitchell Carrill > Daughter Lucy Carrell, wife of William Carrill > Daughter Delila House, wife of Warren House > Daughter Susan Griffith, wife of Leban Griffith > Daughter Winabro Johnson wife of Willie Johnson > Son, Benjamin Carrell > Son, Matthew Carrell > I think sonis L. M Carrell, difficult to read > Daughter Penny Carrell > Daughter Aly Carrell > Wifes name almost impossible to read looks like Lucy but not sure > Son, Ransom Carrell, appears he is deceased, > > Kathy > >

I have recieved the following Wills. Would be interested with anyone related to these families. John Carrell, Daughter Sally Carrell wife of Mitchell Carrill Daughter Lucy Carrell, wife of William Carrill Daughter Delila House, wife of Warren House Daughter Susan Griffith, wife of Leban Griffith Daughter Winabro Johnson wife of Willie Johnson Son, Benjamin Carrell Son, Matthew Carrell I think sonis L. M Carrell, difficult to read Daughter Penny Carrell Daughter Aly Carrell Wifes name almost impossible to read looks like Lucy but not sure Son, Ransom Carrell, appears he is deceased, Kathy

Hi Lynn, I am a Carroll from Taunton, MA. . I do have a first cousin in Hamden, CT John F. Carroll, wife Marcella. Has several children, all married now. However, he came from Taunton, MA to CT. for his work on the RR. years ago. Would surely like to hear from someone who knows something about some Carrolls from Syracuse, N.Y. The Carrolls surely are a prolific lot, they are everywhere in the U.S. and have been for so very long. Good luck, Claire Carroll Hollcroft, Wyoming.

Is anyone researching Carrolls from Rhode Island and Connecticut? I am looking for information and Ephraim Carroll and Sarah Ann Chase. Thank you in advance for any help. Lynn

The similarity in our family histories has motivated me to reply to a request written on 29 Sept. I just returned from Ireland and am just catching up. My immigrants are Thomas and Ann Meara Carroll of Lorrha Parish, Tipperary County N.R., Lower Musnster, Parsonstown and Borisokane PLUs. They also came to America in 1854 and had a Patrick who did not show up on the New York City Census. The real motivator for my writing was the fact that I found a Dunn buried along with the family in the cemetery located at the Dominican Abbey in Lorrha. The tombstone is as follows: Kind reader: Departed this life 10 Apr 1793 age 18 Kind Angels watch this heaping dirt "till Jesus comes to raise the dust. Are you sure you are from Westmeath? If any other Carrolls out there have any interest in the location above, I'll be happy to share information. Wilma Hillman, Cinti, OH USA

Hi, I am new to the Carroll list and would like to talk to anyone with information on this family. Alfred Carroll's daughter Eliza married Thomas Pate Beck in 1847 in Tishomingo County, Miss. The 1850 census says that Alfred was born in North Carolina and Eliza was born in Tennessee. An extremely kind "cousin" told me that Alfred's first wife was Mary Richardson, and his second wife was Elizabeth Bearding. Some of the confusion that I encounter on the Carroll bulletin boards is that there seems to be two Alfred Carrolls living at the same time of approximately the same age: one Alfred Marrin Carroll and the other Alfred Miles Carroll. And to make matters worse, they were both in Tenn. at some time. The Alfred Carroll I found in Roane County seems to be Alfred Miles, but I'm not 100% sure. I would really appreciate it if anyone can help me with these two families. Linda Brunner in Pa.

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: djcarroll <djcn@alaska.com> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 5:24 PM Subject: [CARROLL] unsubscribe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Strickland <dstrickland@optekinc.com> > To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:46 AM > Subject: RE: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > > > > I wasn't wanting the actual census records. Just the summary count by > > county. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Lura C. Southard [SMTP:southard@interpath.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:51 PM > > > To: David Strickland; CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > > > > > > I don't believe the 1990 census is available anywhere. They aren't > > > released > > > to to he public for several years because of privacy concerns. > > > > > > Lura C. Southard > > > southard@interpath.com > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Strickland" <dstrickland@optekinc.com> > > > To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:21 PM > > > Subject: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > > > > > > > > > > Obviously I meant 1880, 1900, 1910,---, 1990 > > > > Census 2000 hasn't been counted yet that I know of. > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I don't believe the 1990 census is available anywhere. They aren't released to to he public for several years because of privacy concerns. Lura C. Southard southard@interpath.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Strickland" <dstrickland@optekinc.com> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:21 PM Subject: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > Obviously I meant 1880, 1900, 1910,---, 1990 > Census 2000 hasn't been counted yet that I know of. > David > > >

David, Census Online has some years, but not many. It is at http://www.census-online.com/links/index.html Lura C. Southard southard@interpath.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Strickland" <dstrickland@optekinc.com> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: [CARROLL] Census Statistics Web Site? > Does anyone know of a web site that has the us census population statistics > by county? > Such as Stonewall County Texas 1880 - xxx count > 1900 - yyy count > 2000 - zzz count > etc. > > Thanks > David > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: David Strickland <dstrickland@optekinc.com> To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:46 AM Subject: RE: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > I wasn't wanting the actual census records. Just the summary count by > county. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lura C. Southard [SMTP:southard@interpath.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:51 PM > > To: David Strickland; CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > > > > I don't believe the 1990 census is available anywhere. They aren't > > released > > to to he public for several years because of privacy concerns. > > > > Lura C. Southard > > southard@interpath.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Strickland" <dstrickland@optekinc.com> > > To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:21 PM > > Subject: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > > > > > > > Obviously I meant 1880, 1900, 1910,---, 1990 > > > Census 2000 hasn't been counted yet that I know of. > > > David > > > > > > > > > >

I wasn't wanting the actual census records. Just the summary count by county. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lura C. Southard [SMTP:southard@interpath.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:51 PM > To: David Strickland; CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > > I don't believe the 1990 census is available anywhere. They aren't > released > to to he public for several years because of privacy concerns. > > Lura C. Southard > southard@interpath.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Strickland" <dstrickland@optekinc.com> > To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:21 PM > Subject: [CARROLL] Census OOPS > > > > Obviously I meant 1880, 1900, 1910,---, 1990 > > Census 2000 hasn't been counted yet that I know of. > > David > > > > > >

thank you. i will try it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lura C. Southard [SMTP:southard@interpath.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:34 PM > To: David Strickland; CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Census Statistics Web Site? > > David, > > Census Online has some years, but not many. It is at > > http://www.census-online.com/links/index.html > > Lura C. Southard > southard@interpath.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Strickland" <dstrickland@optekinc.com> > To: <CARROLL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:15 PM > Subject: [CARROLL] Census Statistics Web Site? > > > > Does anyone know of a web site that has the us census population > statistics > > by county? > > Such as Stonewall County Texas 1880 - xxx count > > 1900 - yyy count > > 2000 - zzz count > > etc. > > > > Thanks > > David > > > > > >

Obviously I meant 1880, 1900, 1910,---, 1990 Census 2000 hasn't been counted yet that I know of. David

Does anyone know of a web site that has the us census population statistics by county? Such as Stonewall County Texas 1880 - xxx count 1900 - yyy count 2000 - zzz count etc. Thanks David