This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PattyStrilaeff Surnames: Carroll, Carrel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/3049.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Barbara, My gg grandfather, John Workman, is your gg grandfather's brother. I am also researching their grandfather Michael. The NC Marriage record for Michael and Betty has his last name listed as "Carrel", according to the record I see on Ancestry.com. But so far, I haven't had any luck with that spelling either. I recently visited the Temperance Cemetery in Carroll County. My great grandfather Benjamin, gg Grandfather John Workman, and (our) ggg grandfather Moses are all buried there. Best of Luck and I will absolutely share if I find anything. Patty Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ckburdette151 Surnames: Carroll, Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7084/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Am searching for information on ancestors of Edward Francis Carroll, 4-11-1876 to 8-16-1938. Married to Myrtle Elenora Brown, 4-30-1884 to 11-7-1961. They had 10 children and lived in St. James, MO. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chuckpierson1 Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7083/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching my wife's Carroll line and am stuck at the above person. I don't have his wife's name but he has 6 children I believe: Clement, James, Martha, Mary, William and Marion. My wife descend from Marion, who was born around 1840 in DeKalb Co GA. Does anyone have anything that Might be able to hep me? Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Ray, Is there a Robert Carroll b. 1798 in NC in your line? Bill > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: nstrandinc_1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/3492.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CARROLL FAMILY IS THE ONE I AM RELATED TO. I AM > AWARE THAT THERE WERE 2 CARROLL FAMILIES, UNRELATED THAT LIVED IN LINCOLN > COUNTY NC FOR AWHILE. YOU MAY BE FROM THE OTHER ONE FOR I DO NOT HAVE ANY > PHIDELIA OR LORENZO IN MINE. SORRY. RAY > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nstrandinc_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/3492.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CARROLL FAMILY IS THE ONE I AM RELATED TO. I AM AWARE THAT THERE WERE 2 CARROLL FAMILIES, UNRELATED THAT LIVED IN LINCOLN COUNTY NC FOR AWHILE. YOU MAY BE FROM THE OTHER ONE FOR I DO NOT HAVE ANY PHIDELIA OR LORENZO IN MINE. SORRY. RAY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: silverstar179 Surnames: carroll ( carrell, carrol) Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/3492.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My name is Janice , and my 3greatgrandfather was from Gilmer Ga. He had 2 sons Phidellia and Lorenzo.Lorenzo was my 2 great grandfather. They all origanated from Buncombe N.C. If you have any info . on this family I would like to here from you Janice Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mcbeav Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4629.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Swanmak1: Which Killinchy church were your Carroll's married in? Regarding Scotland, I have no idea? The possiblily is there since those Carroll's were tall, strong with massive hands. I guess I am being a bit racist since my mother nee Dunne is from the small stature Irish stock (4'11" height). All I know at the moment is that my Henry Carroll moved to Liverpool circa the famine and most likely came from County Down and may have been Protestant or just married a Protestant, e.g. Mary McKibbon. Do you have any Carroll male relatives willing to get involved in the Y-DNA Carroll surname project? If so, I am involved would like to see if we have a close match. Thank you for your reply. Best regards, Mike Carroll Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

sorry, I forgot to include that Martha Carroll was born 24 April 1824 in Rutherford Co. and died 02 February 1866 in Macon County and is buried in what is today Swain County in the Cochran Cemetery on Alarka. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My line is: John Carroll/Carrell married Jane Jaynes/Janes Sept 22, 1815 (I was thinking it was 1817, so 1815 may be a typo - I'll have to check on that and I don't have the bond right in front of me, but there is a marriage bond in Rutherford County for them) in Rutherford County. I have their children as Fannie, Sallie (which would probably be Sarah), Peggy, Jennie, Elias, Ben R., Thomas, Elizabeth, and my gg grandmother, Martha (Mattie) Carroll. I have since proven, however, that the child listed as Fannie was actually in all probability Jane Janes' sister. There is an early deed in Haywood County in land is referred to as given or sold for a small amount to Fanny Floyd (according to one of Martha's daughters, "Fannie married a Floyd"), daughter of John or James Janes. The Fanny Floyd on the 1850 Haywood County census is much older than the other Carroll siblings, so I have always thought that she might be a sister to Jane instead of a child. That deed proved it. There is also a very interesting court case in Haywood County (NC, of course <g>) that rocked on for about 15 years over a note of debt that was found in the Bible of James Janes at the sale of his estate. A Carroll fellow who bought the Bible and an Enloe man were accused of fraudulently collecting the amount of the note instead of returning it to the estate, which they should have done as the estate administrator claimed that the note was part of the estate and not part of the item purchased (the Bible) at the estate sale. The names involved in that case and listed on the many pages of documents concerning the case are all those of the Oconaluftee Settlement (later known as Qualla Town and is where the present day Qualla Boundary (the Reservation of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee) lies, which is where the Gibsons came around 1815 and the Carrolls and Janes a bit later. I know that one of Martha's sisters married a Nichols, and Elizabeth married Matt (probably Matthew) "Cammel" (Campbell). Martha married John Stewart/Stuard/Stuart/Steward Gibson in 1839 and they promptly began their family which would grow to 15 children. All but one lived to adulthood, and all but one of those 14 had families( some 10-14 children.) (John S. was an only child, but he sure made up for it! <g>). Martha (or Mattie) died when her youngest child was only 22 months old, and John S. soon remarried (who can blame him since his mother also died just a few weeks later, leaving him with little help with the children, as most of the daughters old enough to really help were married with families of their own. I would venture a guess that of the families who were living in present day Jackson, Swain, and Macon Counties in the 1930s, at least 50% of them in some way connect back to John S. and Martha Carroll Gibson. I have seen some erroneous information in the Old Tryon Genealogy Society on this family. One source had Martha born around 1839-1840, when she was actually giving birth to her first child in 1840. John Carroll disappears from the records in Haywood and Macon Counties by 1850 and we are not sure if he died or moved on. I have seen him referred to by the older family members (such as the older children of John S. and Martha C. Gibson) as "Johnnie" or "Johnny." I have pictures of most of John S. and Martha's children, and almost all (if not all) are dark headed, dark eyed, and most appear to have an olive tint to their skin. At this point, we are not sure where that comes from, or if there was NA blood in the family. If there was, it was almost certainly not Cherokee, as none of that family was living where the Cherokee inhabited. The Gibsons, however, did live in the area inhabited by the Catawba Indians, so I leave anyone to draw their own conclusions. As most everyone knows, docomenting NA ancestry if difficult and often impossible! I have researched this family for almost 30 years now, and often say I have severe head injuries from beating my head on this brick wall for so long! <g> I have discovered little bits of info in the most unexpected places, and have put together a picture of the family from what I have gleaned, subject, of course, to correction and revision at all times. Please tell me what you line is. I hope we find we can connect and can share some information! Dee ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

noticed your message I am a decendant of Carroll from Forest City, Rutherford Co, N. C. would like more info on your line ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carroll Fam in NC > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: droles_1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/1677.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi, Janice, I'll be glad to help you all I can. I have a Carroll/Carrell > line that came out of Rutherford County. I'll be going to a First > Families committee meeting tomorrow at OBCGS and I'll see what is there > already. You can e-mail me a [email protected] or at [email protected] A > family bible page would be great. You'll also need documentation of each > step back to William, and we can help you decide what documentation to > look for. Look forward to hearing from you! Dee > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cenelms Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/1677.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I noticed an unusual name on your posting - Phidellia. I am looking for a Phillip Carroll from NC probably born about 1780. I am stuck at Phillip's son William James Carroll. This William left NC abt 1840 for VA. He re-married about 1880 in Lee County, VA and listed his father's name as Phillip Carroll. Any chance Phidellia and Phillip could be variations of the same name? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: silverstar179 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/1677.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William and Suson (Plemons) Carroll was my 3great grand father, his son Lorenzo was my 2gg, His son William A. (andy) was my greatgrand father, his son, Amos J was my grandfather.William, was borned Nov.5,1797 in Buncombe co. N.C., died Feb.9,1865 in Gilmer Co. Georgia. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: droles_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/1677.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Janice, I'll be glad to help you all I can. I have a Carroll/Carrell line that came out of Rutherford County. I'll be going to a First Families committee meeting tomorrow at OBCGS and I'll see what is there already. You can e-mail me a [email protected] or at [email protected] A family bible page would be great. You'll also need documentation of each step back to William, and we can help you decide what documentation to look for. Look forward to hearing from you! Dee Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: swanmak1 Surnames: Carroll, Wallace Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/2822.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I noticed your post because my gggrandfather Hamilton Carroll Wallace was born in Killyleagh, County Down in 1812 to Thomas Wallace and Agnes ?Carroll, and later migrated to Jefferson County, NY Where does James Caroll indicate his parents were born, in the census? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: swanmak1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4629.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hamilton was born c 1812. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: swanmak1 Surnames: Carroll, Wallace Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4629.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I noticed your post because my ggrandfather Hamilton Carroll Wallace was born in Killyleagh, County Down to Thomas Wallace and Agnes ?Carroll. Several of his siblings married in Killinchy. Was you Henry Carroll born in Sco0tland (both of Hamilton's parents were born there) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

LOL you are not alone Lura. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lura" <[email protected]> To: "Lura" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor >I apologize to the mail list. > > I thought the letter I just wrote was a personal letter to Eric. I > didn't notice until it was going out that it was also going to the > mail list. So now you all know.... I'm too old to work in the > yard!!!! > > Please forgive the personal note, > > Lura > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lura" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor > > > : Eric, > : > : On Duplin County, NC is 1783, My Alexander's marriage bond, the > clerk > : had written his name as "Carrol". However, at the bottom the person > : signing as his bondsman, (his father I'm pretty sure) signed "Demcy > : Carrel". That is the earliest signature I have of an ancestor. In > : 1790 all ten families were listed on the cesus as Carrol. In 1800, > : they were all Carrell. > : > : I pay no attention to spelling. Although R1b1, I still consider > that > : we MAY be French, Swiss, or no telling what! Actually, I think we > : are Ulster Scots or "Scotch-Irish" as my father said. > : > : I'm not getting much done of late. Health has to catch up with me > : occasionally. I tried to do a little in the yard.... can't do that > : any more!! > : > : Lura > : > : > : ----- Original Message ----- > : From: "Eric Olson" <[email protected]> > : To: "genealogy-dna" <[email protected]>; "Carroll-l" > : <[email protected]> > : Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:02 AM > : Subject: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor > : > : > :: > :: The Census Bureau tells me that surname Carrel is found at a > : frequency of 1 / 4.35 million in the USA. At the time of the > : Revolutionary War the total population in the Colonies was about > : 300,000. I can roughly guesstimate then that there may have been > : about 14 Carrels here in the 1780s, and perhaps 7 were male. Point > is > : they were rare. My ancestor Philip Carrel would be one of them. > :: > :: Now I find another Philip Carrel in the Maryland Archives of 1730. > : Perhaps he is an ancestor, perhaps not. But the interesting thing > is > : that in the Maryland record Philip Carrel is in court charged with > : fornication. (For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge)? > :: > :: This complicates my Y-DNA search for immigrant ancestor by > haplotype > : and surname. At the moment there are zero matches (except for a > : cousin). If said fornication resulted in a male child, he could be > : surnamed anything at all, but genetically related. > :: > :: Eric > :: DY8VJ > :: > :: ------------------------------- > :: To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > : [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > : quotes in the subject and the body of the message > : > : > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I apologize to the mail list. I thought the letter I just wrote was a personal letter to Eric. I didn't notice until it was going out that it was also going to the mail list. So now you all know.... I'm too old to work in the yard!!!! Please forgive the personal note, Lura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lura" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor : Eric, : : On Duplin County, NC is 1783, My Alexander's marriage bond, the clerk : had written his name as "Carrol". However, at the bottom the person : signing as his bondsman, (his father I'm pretty sure) signed "Demcy : Carrel". That is the earliest signature I have of an ancestor. In : 1790 all ten families were listed on the cesus as Carrol. In 1800, : they were all Carrell. : : I pay no attention to spelling. Although R1b1, I still consider that : we MAY be French, Swiss, or no telling what! Actually, I think we : are Ulster Scots or "Scotch-Irish" as my father said. : : I'm not getting much done of late. Health has to catch up with me : occasionally. I tried to do a little in the yard.... can't do that : any more!! : : Lura : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Eric Olson" <[email protected]> : To: "genealogy-dna" <[email protected]>; "Carroll-l" : <[email protected]> : Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:02 AM : Subject: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor : : :: :: The Census Bureau tells me that surname Carrel is found at a : frequency of 1 / 4.35 million in the USA. At the time of the : Revolutionary War the total population in the Colonies was about : 300,000. I can roughly guesstimate then that there may have been : about 14 Carrels here in the 1780s, and perhaps 7 were male. Point is : they were rare. My ancestor Philip Carrel would be one of them. :: :: Now I find another Philip Carrel in the Maryland Archives of 1730. : Perhaps he is an ancestor, perhaps not. But the interesting thing is : that in the Maryland record Philip Carrel is in court charged with : fornication. (For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge)? :: :: This complicates my Y-DNA search for immigrant ancestor by haplotype : and surname. At the moment there are zero matches (except for a : cousin). If said fornication resulted in a male child, he could be : surnamed anything at all, but genetically related. :: :: Eric :: DY8VJ :: :: ------------------------------- :: To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to : [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the : quotes in the subject and the body of the message : :

Eric, On Duplin County, NC is 1783, My Alexander's marriage bond, the clerk had written his name as "Carrol". However, at the bottom the person signing as his bondsman, (his father I'm pretty sure) signed "Demcy Carrel". That is the earliest signature I have of an ancestor. In 1790 all ten families were listed on the cesus as Carrol. In 1800, they were all Carrell. I pay no attention to spelling. Although R1b1, I still consider that we MAY be French, Swiss, or no telling what! Actually, I think we are Ulster Scots or "Scotch-Irish" as my father said. I'm not getting much done of late. Health has to catch up with me occasionally. I tried to do a little in the yard.... can't do that any more!! Lura ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Olson" <[email protected]> To: "genealogy-dna" <[email protected]>; "Carroll-l" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: [CARROLL] Y-DNA Search for Immigrant Ancestor : : The Census Bureau tells me that surname Carrel is found at a frequency of 1 / 4.35 million in the USA. At the time of the Revolutionary War the total population in the Colonies was about 300,000. I can roughly guesstimate then that there may have been about 14 Carrels here in the 1780s, and perhaps 7 were male. Point is they were rare. My ancestor Philip Carrel would be one of them. : : Now I find another Philip Carrel in the Maryland Archives of 1730. Perhaps he is an ancestor, perhaps not. But the interesting thing is that in the Maryland record Philip Carrel is in court charged with fornication. (For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge)? : : This complicates my Y-DNA search for immigrant ancestor by haplotype and surname. At the moment there are zero matches (except for a cousin). If said fornication resulted in a male child, he could be surnamed anything at all, but genetically related. : : Eric : DY8VJ : : ------------------------------- : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message