Do you have Jimmy Carroll's siblings and or parents names and dates? Thank you for checking. Larry Carroll [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Carrolls of Augusta Co. VA > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: ginab1030 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4034.3.2/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > could carolyn carroll long please email me at [email protected] as > her deceased husband is a cousin of my husband. jimmy carroll is my > husbands step father. thank you gina > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southard Surnames: CARROLL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mike, I believe that your kit # 31491 is shown in the chart where it is because the lines are listed by the order of the numbers. Yours begins 13-23 and the men in orange begin 13-24. You were wise to compare with the lines in the orange group which seemed to indicate an average. We don't know which of those was most like the ancestor, since each lineage may have mutated in a different direction. With only one exception, those men have not had a common ancestor in about 200 years, so some mutation could be expected in that period of time. I read somewhere, but can't find it right now that those DYS numbers shown in RED at the top of the chart designated alleles which were more apt to mutate than the ones shown in black. I think where the mismatch occurs may make a small amount of difference in the percent of probability that two men shared a common ancestor somewhere in the past. That is why it is difficult to say exactly how two men are related just by comparing the numbers. At http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_37.html there is a chart that gives the approximate relatedness based on comparing the numbers. For a 31/37 match it says: "31/37 is too far off to be considered related, unless you can find an "in-betweener' as for determining 'Only Possibly Related,' above. It is important to determine what set of results most typifies the largest number members of the group you are 'close' to matching. You may be 31/37 with an individual, but 34/37 with the center of the group, and your potential relatedness to him is through the center of the group." Your best way to learn to whom you are related is by using the personal web page provided for you by FamilyTreeDNA when they received your kit. You need to be sure to set your preferences for that display to include all Surnames and not just the Carroll surname. A few men have discovered that they did not match a man of the same surname at all, but they did match men of a surname which had lived near their ancestors. Comparisons shown on that personal page should take into consideration which markers are different between two men. We have three of the orange men who are extending the number of alleles to 67. My cousin's kit # 32061 is due back about October 23. You might want to consider extending yours to see if more of the markers match in those 30 more alleles. Hope this answered your questions. Lura Southard List Administrator, [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mcbeav Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Lura: I do not know if one DYS# is more significant than the other as to the probabaility of relations. After reviewing the kit chart, do you think that Kit #31941 could be grouped near by the North Carolina kits? Three out of the seven North Carolina kits match 30 of the 36 DYS#'s. Regards, Mike Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Mike, I'm sorry if I discouraged you in any way. I am not an expert in this field. Hopefully someone else will provide an answer that will give you more information which can provide hope for you. Since we are the first generation using DNA for genealogy, we are really building a framework which researchers of the future can use for identifying their roots. If you haven't yet identified a close relative, you may soon, but even if you don't find one in your lifetime, that record will be invaluable for someone in the future. So thanks for sending the DNA sample. It would be more helpful in the future if we each uploaded a pedigree of just the Carroll lineage with our haplotype at YSearch.com - of course not including any living person. I haven't done that yet for my cousin. Lura Southard List Administrator, [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Carrroll" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Britton Carroll SC, Ga : Thanks for the explanation. Unfortuately, you put more doubt into my : present belief system. : : [email protected] wrote: : > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. : > : > Author: southard : > Surnames: CARROLL : > Classification: queries : > : > Message Board URL: : > : > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx : > : > Message Board Post: : > : > Mike, : > : > I believe that your kit # 31491 is shown in the chart where it is because the lines are listed by the order of the numbers. Yours begins 13-23 and the men in orange begin 13-24. : > : > You were wise to compare with the lines in the orange group which seemed to indicate an average. We don't know which of those was most like the ancestor, since each lineage may have mutated in a different direction. With only one exception, those men have not had a common ancestor in about 200 years, so some mutation could be expected in that period of time. : > : > I read somewhere, but can't find it right now that those DYS numbers shown in RED at the top of the chart designated alleles which were more apt to mutate than the ones shown in black. I think where the mismatch occurs may make a small amount of difference in the percent of probability that two men shared a common ancestor somewhere in the past. That is why it is difficult to say exactly how two men are related just by comparing the numbers. : > : > At http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_37.html there is a chart that gives the approximate relatedness based on comparing the numbers. For a 31/37 match it says: : > : > "31/37 is too far off to be considered related, unless you can find an "in-betweener' as for determining 'Only Possibly Related,' above. It is important to determine what set of results most typifies the largest number members of the group you are 'close' to matching. You may be 31/37 with an individual, but 34/37 with the center of the group, and your potential relatedness to him is through the center of the group." : > : > Your best way to learn to whom you are related is by using the personal web page provided for you by FamilyTreeDNA when they received your kit. You need to be sure to set your preferences for that display to include all Surnames and not just the Carroll surname. A few men have discovered that they did not match a man of the same surname at all, but they did match men of a surname which had lived near their ancestors. Comparisons shown on that personal page should take into consideration which markers are different between two men. : > : > We have three of the orange men who are extending the number of alleles to 67. My cousin's kit # 32061 is due back about October 23. You might want to consider extending yours to see if more of the markers match in those 30 more alleles. : > : > Hope this answered your questions. : > : > Lura Southard : > List Administrator, : > [email protected] : > : > Important Note: : > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Lura: I am not exactly discouraged. I am just stuck and still just going off gut feelings. When I saw the similarities between my kit and the North Carolina kits it reinforced my origins research direction of County Down, County Louth and Couth Antrim. Since it is known that many of the the early settlers of North America were from Northern Ireland, this North Carolina group I assume originated from Northern Ireland. My recently passed genealogist cousin from County Kildare said that she relied on gut feelings. Back in 1999 she said that her gut feelings told her that my Carroll's were from County Down. At that time, I did not want to believe that since I assumed that my Carroll's came from Central Ireland (County Offaly, County Tipperary) based on nothing. However, with my increased education of the the five Carroll septs and learning that County Louth is the homeland of the Oriel sept, I was becoming convinced my cousin may be correct with her gut feeling. This week I spent two days at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City searching County Down Carroll's. I found Carrol's who were Presbytarian and Carroll's that were Catholic. The only name that was common to the Carroll's and the Carrol's were the name Elizabeth and Henry. Anyway, I will keep searching until I strike at the truth . Regards, Mike Carroll Lura wrote: > Mike, > > I'm sorry if I discouraged you in any way. I am not an expert in this > field. Hopefully someone else will provide an answer that will give > you more information which can provide hope for you. > > Since we are the first generation using DNA for genealogy, we are > really building a framework which researchers of the future can use > for identifying their roots. If you haven't yet identified a close > relative, you may soon, but even if you don't find one in your > lifetime, that record will be invaluable for someone in the future. > So thanks for sending the DNA sample. > > It would be more helpful in the future if we each uploaded a pedigree > of just the Carroll lineage with our haplotype at YSearch.com - of > course not including any living person. I haven't done that yet for > my cousin. > > Lura Southard > List Administrator, > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Carrroll" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Britton Carroll SC, Ga > > > : Thanks for the explanation. Unfortuately, you put more doubt into > my > : present belief system. > : > : [email protected] wrote: > : > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list. > : > > : > Author: southard > : > Surnames: CARROLL > : > Classification: queries > : > > : > Message Board URL: > : > > : > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx > : > > : > Message Board Post: > : > > : > Mike, > : > > : > I believe that your kit # 31491 is shown in the chart where it is > because the lines are listed by the order of the numbers. Yours > begins 13-23 and the men in orange begin 13-24. > : > > : > You were wise to compare with the lines in the orange group which > seemed to indicate an average. We don't know which of those was most > like the ancestor, since each lineage may have mutated in a different > direction. With only one exception, those men have not had a common > ancestor in about 200 years, so some mutation could be expected in > that period of time. > : > > : > I read somewhere, but can't find it right now that those DYS > numbers shown in RED at the top of the chart designated alleles which > were more apt to mutate than the ones shown in black. I think where > the mismatch occurs may make a small amount of difference in the > percent of probability that two men shared a common ancestor somewhere > in the past. That is why it is difficult to say exactly how two men > are related just by comparing the numbers. > : > > : > At http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_37.html there is a chart > that gives the approximate relatedness based on comparing the numbers. > For a 31/37 match it says: > : > > : > "31/37 is too far off to be considered related, unless you can > find an "in-betweener' as for determining 'Only Possibly Related,' > above. It is important to determine what set of results most typifies > the largest number members of the group you are 'close' to matching. > You may be 31/37 with an individual, but 34/37 with the center of the > group, and your potential relatedness to him is through the center of > the group." > : > > : > Your best way to learn to whom you are related is by using the > personal web page provided for you by FamilyTreeDNA when they received > your kit. You need to be sure to set your preferences for that > display to include all Surnames and not just the Carroll surname. A > few men have discovered that they did not match a man of the same > surname at all, but they did match men of a surname which had lived > near their ancestors. Comparisons shown on that personal page should > take into consideration which markers are different between two men. > : > > : > We have three of the orange men who are extending the number of > alleles to 67. My cousin's kit # 32061 is due back about October 23. > You might want to consider extending yours to see if more of the > markers match in those 30 more alleles. > : > > : > Hope this answered your questions. > : > > : > Lura Southard > : > List Administrator, > : > [email protected] > : > > : > Important Note: > : > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If > you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL > link above and respond on the board. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southard Surnames: CARROLL CARRELL CARROL CARREL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The descendant of this Britton/Burton (born SC in 1808) was a good DNA match with descendants of 4 out of the 10 Carroll households living in Sampson County, NC in the 1790 census and one other Carroll born in Sampson County in 1799. It is not yet known how Burton is related to the Sampson, NC Carrolls. The DNA profiles of these seven men are highlighted in orange in the chart of the Carroll DNA Project at http://www.childtalk.com/History/carrollfamilydnavalues.pdf Since several CARROLL, CARREL, CARROL, CARRELL family groupings are developing, it should be easier now for a person to use DNA to trace his CARROLL heritage. Only a man with the CARROLL surname (by any spelling) and who has no adoption or non-paternal event in his lineage (as far as he knows) should be tested for this project. I would encourage a person to order either the Y-DNA37 or Y-DNA67 test at https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=F25174&special=True or contact the Project Administrator, Kevin Carroll, at [email protected] for more information. Ordering the Y-DNA12 test only tells one's very ancient background and doesn't help find a lineage in the last few thousand years. The Y-DNA25 test returns too many false positives and false negatives to be of much help. It is more economical to do all the testing at once, but it is possible to do a cheaper test, then upgrade later. I invite anyone who is interested in the Carroll DNA Project to join the [email protected] mail list. Those on the mail list should be able to help answer your questions. Lura Southard List Administrator, [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ann3tt31 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry we believe that we may decened from Elizabeth Carrol that married Thomas Reddick. Lets try a time line 1794 Britton Carril Warren Co,. Tax list 1810 Elizabeth Carrol m. Thomas Reddick Abbeville Joanna Carrol m. James Reddick Abbeville 1820 Abbeville census Willam Carrol Robert Carrol James Carrol Margaret Carrol Elizabeth Reddick Anna Reddick 1827 land Lottery GA Thomas Redick Warren Co., Ga Thomas Reddick's orps Warren Co Ga. 1830 Warren co., Ga census Britton Carroll James W Carroll Robert E Carroll William John 1830 Bibb Co., Ga census Thomas Redick 1840 Bibb Co., Ga census Thomas Reddick 1850 Bibb Co., Ga census Elizabeth Reddick Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dfarnauld Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Britton Carroll's descendant , Calvin Franklin Carroll is in the FTDNA Carroll family study. If you have a male relative it might be a good idea to be tested. It could eliminate a lot of the possible Carroll's in the area, or with an exact match put you in the ball park. There are a lot of NC Carroll lines in the study. They migrated to SC, GA, etc. -DAN- Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thanks for the explanation. Unfortuately, you put more doubt into my present belief system. [email protected] wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: southard > Surnames: CARROLL > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Mike, > > I believe that your kit # 31491 is shown in the chart where it is because the lines are listed by the order of the numbers. Yours begins 13-23 and the men in orange begin 13-24. > > You were wise to compare with the lines in the orange group which seemed to indicate an average. We don't know which of those was most like the ancestor, since each lineage may have mutated in a different direction. With only one exception, those men have not had a common ancestor in about 200 years, so some mutation could be expected in that period of time. > > I read somewhere, but can't find it right now that those DYS numbers shown in RED at the top of the chart designated alleles which were more apt to mutate than the ones shown in black. I think where the mismatch occurs may make a small amount of difference in the percent of probability that two men shared a common ancestor somewhere in the past. That is why it is difficult to say exactly how two men are related just by comparing the numbers. > > At http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_37.html there is a chart that gives the approximate relatedness based on comparing the numbers. For a 31/37 match it says: > > "31/37 is too far off to be considered related, unless you can find an "in-betweener' as for determining 'Only Possibly Related,' above. It is important to determine what set of results most typifies the largest number members of the group you are 'close' to matching. You may be 31/37 with an individual, but 34/37 with the center of the group, and your potential relatedness to him is through the center of the group." > > Your best way to learn to whom you are related is by using the personal web page provided for you by FamilyTreeDNA when they received your kit. You need to be sure to set your preferences for that display to include all Surnames and not just the Carroll surname. A few men have discovered that they did not match a man of the same surname at all, but they did match men of a surname which had lived near their ancestors. Comparisons shown on that personal page should take into consideration which markers are different between two men. > > We have three of the orange men who are extending the number of alleles to 67. My cousin's kit # 32061 is due back about October 23. You might want to consider extending yours to see if more of the markers match in those 30 more alleles. > > Hope this answered your questions. > > Lura Southard > List Administrator, > [email protected] > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ann3tt31 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Goodmorning Thank you for your help. This is what I have. C640 CARROL, ELIZA R320 REDDICK, THOMAS Apr 23 1810 C640 CARROL, JOANNA R320 REDDICK, JAMES Apr 23 1810 Those marriges took place in Abbeville SC. 1820 Abbeville SC census William Carroll Robert Carroll James Carroll Margaret Carroll Anna Reddick Elizabeth Reddick All living next door to each other. This is the group or family of Carrolls that I am trying to find out about Thanks Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TewiTso Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dan, It looks as though this line has been thoroughly researched based on the site you mentioned. I'm heading back to read more...Teri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TewiTso Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I also found a marriage record for Burton Carroll to Winifred Benton on 6 Feb 1812 Warren Co, GA. I'll go look at the Minutes you mentioned. This would be an interesting family to learn more about...Teri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dfarnauld Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://www.burval.net/carroll-p/p5.htm#i6537 That is the Burton Carroll information. (He was also listed a Britton Carroll in records.) The Double Pond Baptist Church minutes gives names of other Carrolls he might be related to. That is on the site also. -DAN- Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TewiTso Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not sure how to go about finding the children of either Britton. I did find two records for Britton of NC, one was the American Genealogical & Biographical Index that gives Britton's year of birth as 1750,being born in NC. The other was a marriage record for Britain Carrell to Betsy Austin on 1 Nov 1820 in Johnston Co, NC. I'll keep trying different spellings to see if more records come up...Teri Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dfarnauld Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have information on Britton Carroll SC, GA. But he is not the Britton Carroll she is looking for. I too would like to know the children of Britton Carroll of NC revolutionary war veteran. He maybe a relative of Britton Carroll born in SC. There has to be at least one generation between them. -DAN- Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TewiTso Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Annette, I did a little looking and I did find a Britton Carroll in Georgia. The 1830 census for Warren Co, GA (surname spelled Carrol) gives his age as being born between 1740-1750. Listed in Warren Co. as well were: James W. born between 1780-1790, Robert E.or C. born between 1790-1800, William born between 1770-1780 & Jno born between 1770-1780. It looks like James, Robert, William & Jno(Jonathan or John) could all be sons of Britton. However, all of them living together in one area does not necessarily make them related, though it is likely. I also did a search online and found nothing. I have all the details for the 1830 census for all named above if you or anyone is interested in seeing them. Britton also appears in the 1794 Tax List for Trants District, Warren, GA- his surname on this record was spelled Carril. But I didn't find anything that proves these are Britton's sons. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ann3tt31 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What I have I picked up from this board. Britton is the son of Absolom Carroll from Colleton SC. I think he may have been born somtime in the late 1700's Thanks Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TewiTso Surnames: Carroll Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Annette, Do you have any details for Britton? When was he born? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ann3tt31 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7146/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the children of Britton Carroll. Thank you for your time Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Murphy_JonesCoMS Surnames: CARROLL Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7145/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CARROLL Noah H 1894 1970 may he find joy in life everlasting Aleta Krauss photographed this gravestone in the Murphy Creek Baptist Church Cemetery, Jones County, Mississippi. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 179,332 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.