Hello All -- I've just resubscribed to the CARROLL list after several years of having no time. I have lost contact with a fellow Carroll researcher named Sharon Moody. We connected on our family lines about 10 years ago through this list. If Sharon is still monitoring this list, please contact us. Still looking for additional information on William Carroll, born about 1795-96 in South Carolina, and information on his first wife. I have information to share if anyone is interested. Linda Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ed_Enfinger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7159/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to find out if John Carroll B 09-10-1791, D. 12-10-1889 was Married to Elizabeth Carroll B. 05-28-1822, D. 12-21-1906. In the Houston Co. AlArchives Cemeteries...Clark Cemetery I found transcrips of there tombstones which indicate they were married. In the 1900 Census for Brantins, Ceneva, Al. Elizabeth Carroll date of birth abt. 1822 is listed as mother-in-law of Abb Enfinger. Abb is also buired at the Clark Cemetery. Abb was married to Jane born abt 1844. any information would be greatly apprciatied. Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Bettye, Could you send me your lineage of Carroll's With Dates, names, and places of birth as far back as you can go. I'll send you mine and see if we are close yet to match one of our Carroll's. Larry G. Carroll [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Wingate" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Dempsey Carroll > JIM > Do you have any of the siblings or parents of Dempsey Carrell? My > Bartholomew Carroll was in this same are around the same period. > Strangely he named on of his sons middle name Sanford???????? > > Bettye Wingate > > Jim Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > Dempsey CARROLL b 1711; d 1776 Loudoun Co, VA 1m 1732 Francis SANFORD; 2m > Rebecca Heath SMITH > Ch: > 1. Daniel died young > 2. Frances m Henry PINKSTON > 3. Athahia 1m Shadrock PINKSTON; 2m Fadda JARRETT > 4. William Porter m Ann Murphy PORTER > 5. Dempsey b 1740 > 6. Jemima 1735-1820s m Sylvester WELCH - they are my ancestors and lived > in > Hampshire Co, VA > 7. Sanford m 1771 Fauquier Co, VA Elizabeth BARTLETT dau of my ancestors > Thomas BARTLETT and Anne ____; Sanford d 1777 Fauquier Co, VA and > Elizabeth > 2m Henry ASBURY and they lived in Harrison Co, VA > 8. Sarah m 1777 Thomas BARTLETT b c1730 (my ancestor; who married Sarah > after his first wife Anne died) - they had five children (including > Sanford > BARTLETT) and then moved from Fauquier Co, VA to Harrison Co, VA in 1785. > 9. Nancy m Joseph JACKSON > 10. Mary 1m Thomas HOGAN; 2m John OWENS > Ch by Dempsey's 2m > 11. Rachel > 12. Mary Ann Heath m 1784 Benjamin BARTLETT (son of my ancestors Thomas > BARTLETT & Anne) > 13. Cynthia m 1793 William HAYMOND in Harrison Co, VA > > Jim Bartlett > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Lura > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 12:14 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [CARROLL] Dempsey Carroll > > Eric, > > This Dempsey, sometimes called Demse or James Demse or Demse James is > thought to be the son of Daniel. This Dempsey had a son and at least > two grandsons named Dempsey. His son Dempsey married Mary Hall and > moved to KY. I think one grandson Dempsey was in a western VA county, > and another grandson Dempsey was later in KY. I have never been able > to establish any connection between he and the Demcy/Dempsey I found > in Sampson in 1770.(and I think came there from Halifax County, NC.) > There may be a connection. > > Lura > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Olson" > To: ; > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] William N. Carroll > > > : Lura, > : > : Who are these Dempsey Carrolls? > : > : > http://mykindred.com/cloud/TX/getperson.php?personID=I2893&tree=mykindred01 > : > : Eric: > : > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > : > [Original Message] > : > From: Bettye Wingate > : > To: > : > Date: 10/12/2007 8:05:30 PM > : > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] William N. Carroll > : > > : > Lura, > : > Do you have any of Dempsey/Demse Carroll's siblings? Also do > you > : know how to get into the Carroll DNA website to look at the > families that > : have been submitted? I tried but unable to get the actual names of > the > : ancestors...... > : > > : > Bettye > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > : > Lura wrote: > : > Diane, > : > > : > What was your G-Grandfather's name? > : > Where was he born (if you know)? > : > Where did he live? > : > Where did he die? > : > > : > My Carrolls MAY have come from VA to NC, possibly from Isle of > Wight > : > County, VA, or they MAY have come directly into NC. I believe they > : > MAY be Scots-Irish or Ulster Scots, because as far as I know, my > line > : > has been Protestant. > : > > : > My earliest one was Dempsey Carrel, Sr. in Halifax County, NC in > 1759. > : > He was in Duplin (which became Sampson) County, NC by 1770. > : > His son Alexander Carrell married in 1783 and died in Sampson > County, > : > NC. > : > His son Major Hardy Carrell married in 1815, lived, and died in > Stokes > : > County, NC. > : > > : > Can anyone identify with these? > : > Lura > : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > : > ----- Original Message ----- > : > From: > : > To: > : > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:20 AM > : > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] William N. Carroll > : > > : > : Larry, I would appreciate any help you can give me as I've been > : > looking for > : > : my G-Grandfather's ancestry for over 21 years now with no > confirmed > : > : connections. I am looking for my clan and location in Ireland. I > : > would look for a > : > : male Carroll in our family to join your DNA project, however the > : > last of our > : > : line died earlier this year. His son never married nor fathered > a > : > child but > : > : died in Vietnam. > : > : > : > : Diane Heil > : > : [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jcarroll126 Surnames: Carroll/Woods Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7158.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much! I should have known better myself! Yes, Catherine had a penchant for pulling new ages out of the hat, however she died first and on their his-and-her tombstone John had the pleasure of having carved the worst date of all, which made her at least seven years older than him! But then there is a family legend that he emigrated to escape her and she followed him here, and he felt obliged to marry her. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jgwheat10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7158.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have no connections to these folks, but I did find them in 1870 & 1900 Elma, Erie Co., NY Census. If you are using Ancestry.com, the 1870 surname is indexed as CARELL & the 1900 is indexed as CAROLL. In brief: 1870 John CARELL, 45, Farmer, b. Ireland Catherine--, 40, Keeping House, b. Ireland Margaret---, 15, b. NY Edward-----, 13, b. NY Maria------, 8, b. NY 1900: John CAROLL, b.Mch 1830,70,years married 42,Ireland Catherine--, b.Apl 1820,80,years married 42,Ireland, 4 Children, 3 Living Margaret---, b.May 1860,40,single,NY Maria------, b.Jan 1865,35,single,NY I looked around some in 1860 using different spellings for Carroll (Carol, Carrol, Caroll, etc.) but didn't find them. If you think they are in Erie Co. NY in 1860, then you may have to search page by page. Between the census taker's handwriting and creative spelling, sometimes the transcriber has a hard time deciphering. I found my CARROLL indexed as CANOLL in one census. Also, looks like John & Catherine were creative with their ages. Good luck Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jcarroll126 Surnames: Carroll/Kingston Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7158/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am encountering difficulty finding information on this man, my paternal great grandfather, and his wife Catherine Burke (1822-1906)and their three children Maria, Edward & Margaret. I can only find records for the family for the census of 1880. This seems very odd as the parents remained in the same area until their death. Edward married Elizabeth Kingston, and they were my paternal grandparents. Anyone have connections to these folks? Thank you Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PatriciaHeaps63 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7157/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for information about Elizabeth (Lizzie) Carroll born c1867 probably in Belfast. At the time of her marriage to Francis Daly (from Crossmaglen) she was living at 30 Boundry St Belfast. Her father Robert was a coachbuilder. Lizzie moved to Liverpool sometime after 1901 where she died in 1909. I would particularly like to find out her mother's name and if she had any siblings but any information at all would be much apreciated. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: grankk902 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks. I didn't think aboyut some of the other Carrolls moving to Murray Co also. I'll check it out. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

i sincerely hope that the carroll dna project admin puts all these variants in the study. we can find out how they are connected Jim Denning -Ygenealogist-MTgenealogist using Genetics to connect Chelsea,Ma.-Woburn,Ma.-denning-dennen-danin-dinan-dinihey-denningston-dinning- carlon-ca rroll-dever-cogan-malone-heslin-piscopo-mazzola-martini-farrell-mchugh-farley-grimes-lynch-doherty-SanDanto,Ita-Adargh,longford-Revere,Ma-Wintrop,M a.- and ever an growing list List owner of Irish-dna,Piscopo-l-Heslin-l,McHugh-l,Cogan-l-Machelsea-l,Ita-Frosinone-l,Mazzola-l-Duggan-l Project Manager of Chelsea Ma. Genetics Project,Denning&Variants Project-Farrell Genetics Project-The Cogan Project- the Duggan Project- County Longford Project-Frosinone Italy Project-Parramatta-Sydney Project- Hannibal MO-QuincyIL Project-Brighton-NewtonMA Project ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Joyce_Reece Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would it be possible to see your lineage anywhere...either by email or online? Karen has a link both to these Carroll's and to the Lewis's in this area and I'd like to see what's going on. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nstrandinc_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: YES. SOME OF THOSE MOVED OVER TO MURRAY COUNTY GA WHERE MY OWN FAMILY LIVES. (MY MOTHER WAS A CARROLL, HER GREAT GRAND FATHER WAS JOHN HILL CARROLL WHO DIED IN THE CIVIL WAR.) RAY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geneobugkk3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No I haven't. Is this in 1850 and on? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bentfoto Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I ASSUME YOU HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT ALL THOSE CARROLLS IN GILMER COUNTY GEORGIA (ELLIJAY) THAT WERE FROM THE SC/NC AREA??? RAY LEWIS PAYNE Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geneobugkk3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I tried e-mailing, but my server wouldn't let me without putting in a name in the box.That's besides the e-mail address. My first Carrell that I know of is Joseph Carrell in 1777 Richland District,SC, according to his will. One of the Joseph's daughters Martha Carrell married William J Hugg.I saw a excerpt from a will that was posted in South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research that was posted on Ancestry.com,but haven't been able to find it since.In it it mentions his daughter marrying William J Hugg, Also in Stephen Huggs will it says he's leaving a watch to his son in-law Jacob Carrell who is married to his(Stephen Hugg) daughter Nancy. In 1850 Murray Co,GA census is William J Hugg & wife Martha CARRELL Hugg.In same census & place is their daughter Martha E HUGG Hammett & John J Hammett,my GG grandparents & 2 children, William D M Hammett 3 years, & Martha 8 mo. This is all I know. There are so many of the same name it's confusing,plus they don't put their ages in most odf the wills or when they were born. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geneobugkk3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Carrells are in Richland District, SC 1in 1777 according to will of Joseph Carrell. Before this I don't know. His wife Jeanette Carrell has a will listed on SC Archives. I'm not sure which Joseph Carrell is mine. Martha Carrell, daughter of Joseph Carrell & ? married William J Hugg. I saw an excerpt from a will in The South Carolina Magazine for Ancestral research,but now can't find it again. In it it talks of his daughter Martha marrying William J Hugg. Also in Stephen Huggs will it tells of his daughter Nancy marrying Jacob Carrell.Stephen Hugg is William J Hugg's father. There are so many of the same name it gets confusing. William J Hugg & Martha CARRELL Hugg are in Murray Co,GA 1850 census.Also there is their daughter Martha E HUGG Hammett & John J Hammett, my GG grandparents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southard Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.3.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That "terbaccy" generated a rich language of its own, didn't it? I wonder if anyone has recorded all the colloquial language associated with it?... and written a translation of it for those folks not fortunate enough to have been reared on the farm? I think much of what has been written here is discussing how the CARROLL name has changed since our ancestors arrived in North America. The name may have changed spellings for the very early immigrants before they got to the colonies, because the family may have spent a few years or a whole generation in exile in another country. For a while Leyden, Holland became sort of a refugee camp for religious pilgrims from the British Isles (including the Pilgrims who settled at Plymouth Rock), and some stayed there a generation or more. We think my husband's surname changed from Southworth to Southard while the family was in Holland. The Dutch ships brought many across the ocean besides just the Dutch who founded New Netherlands (New York). Just think how a Dutch ship Captain might have written "Carroll" on his passenger list when he usually had a hard sound like T on the end of most names! In her book "Virginia CARROLLS and Their Neighbors", Virginia Foster included at least one CARRICK family in her highlighted Carrolls. I have never understood the Soundex Code, but since there are folks who know much more about this than I do, I take their word for the fact that all spellings in the Soundex Code 640 may be my cousins. Rootsweb gives us all these words as a way to spell "Carroll". If our research is to be complete, we must search every source using each of these spellings. The C640 list is available at http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/c/a/CARROLL/ CARROLL CARL CARLE CARLEY CARRELL CARROL CARWILE CEARLEY CIRULLO CORIALE CORIELL CORL CORLEY CORRELL CORYELL CRALL CRAWLEY CREEL CRILLEY CROLEY CROLL CROWELL CROWL CROWLEY CROYLE CRULL CURL CURLEE CURLEY CURRELL This K640 list is available at http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/k/a/KARL/ KARL KEHRLI KERLEY KIERLEY KRELL KREUL KROLL What about Kirrell and Kirrill? There are many other codes used for locating names, but I know nothing at all about them. However, one of these might hold a clue for you. http://www.naaccr.org/filesystem/pdf/Process Map NHIA v2 09-21-05.pdf http://calmenno.org/grandma/manual3.pdf http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/66-SOIGG.htm Maybe this will give somebody a few more places to dig for roots. If that search leads you to Sampson County, NC, PLEASE write to me. Lura Southard [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jhcarrell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.2.1.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No I haven't. I have not really looked into the DNA projects offered through ancestry. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jgwheat10 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.3.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Very good point. I had to give "how much terbaccy pap had" a little thought. Not only "terbaccy" but the regional accents come into play. For some reason, one of my HEDRICKS ancestors quite often got recorded as HENDRICKS. I have found my CARROLL ancestor spelled a variety of ways,the most unusual was CANOLL in a census transcription -this due to the very sloppy handwriting of the census taker. After viewing a copy of the original document, I probably would have made the same interpretation. If you focus on only one certain spelling, you may miss finding your ancestors. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Joyce_Reece Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.3.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There's one thing that no one in this conversation has considered. That was the fact that most of the time the names you are examining for the spelling were seldom written by the person themselves. If you have an exact signature from a will, etc. you can consider that as being the way they learned to spell the surname BUT if the one you're looking at was written by someone else....like a census taker...the exact spelling could be questionable. All surnames have alternative spellings. For example my maternal Hembree surname has 10 or 11 different spellings. The Rev. War Pension apps has two on those...Emory-Hembree. I've often told that the name has so many different spellings because it depended on how much terbaccy pap had in his jaw when the census taker came around. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geneobugkk3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7153.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.