Larry, Ten years ago I was just like you. I thought Alexander Carrell dropped from the sky on his wedding day in 1783. Gradually I bombarded the message boards and mail lists for other people with Carrolls in that area. Working together we found that county boundaries changed through the years and we had to study the court records and census records for several counties and not just one. There are now over twenty-five people interested in the genealogy of the large family of Carrolls we thought were related and now with DNA, we are proving that they are related.... and we STILL have a brick wall. I have added at least one generation to my pedigree. We WILL find some parents for our Carrolls. You will too, but it will be hard work - and a lot of fun. Lura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "L Carroll" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? : Lura, : It sounds easy going backwards but what happens when you come upon a brick : wall. : I cannot leave Cowlitz County, Washington State usa, : I have a James Madison Carroll Married in Cowlitz Co, Washington (Territory : then) in 1854. He put in a later census that he was born in Kentucky and : his mother was born in Kentucky and his father was born in Virginia. That : would have been before Virginia split. : Have any ideas of where to go from here? : Larry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Lura" <[email protected]> : To: <[email protected]> : Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:07 PM : Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? : : > Fran, : > : > In Ireland the family groupings were known as septs. The description : > of these septs and the locations of where they lived can vary a little : > depending on who is giving the information. : > : > Kevin Carroll, the administrator of the Carroll DNA project has posted : > a good article entitled "What's in a Name" at : > http://www.childtalk.com/History/articlewhatisinanamecarroll.htm : > That tells something about where the different spellings and where : > they might be found. : > : > Two of the septs are discussed at this site : > http://www.clancian-carroll.com/carhist.shtml : > : > An Irishman now living in England recently wrote in a letter to me : > this summary version of Carroll locations in Ireland. : > : > "There are five septs of the O'Carroll family, generally speaking: : > Southwestern sept in Counties Cork and Kerry. : > Ossory, mainly County Kilkenny. : > Ely, mainly in Counties Offaly, North County Laois and North : > Tipperary : > Oriel, mainly County Louth. : > Finally, there was a small sept around County Leitrim." : > : > So you see, it is a little like asking, "Where in the US do the Smiths : > live?" They don't all live in one place. In 1300 AD it might not : > have been hard to tell the basic areas where Carrolls lived, but by : > 1850, they were scattered not only in Ireland but all over the British : > Isles. There were even some who use the name Carroll now who actually : > came from Germany, Switzerland, France, Ukraine, and other places. : > : > You will have better success if you start at the present and move : > backwards a generation at a time, rather than trying to start in the : > past and move toward the present. : > : > Hope that helps, : > Lura CARROLL Southard : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thank you, Lura. Your reply was very succinct and gave me some idea of what I'm up against. All I have to go on is the name of Elizabeth Carroll, my gr-grandmother, daughter of John & Sarah, who was born circa 1820, emigrated from somewhere in Ireland, and married Bernard McElroy in Providence, RI in 1847. Based upon what you've told me, this project is going to involve at least one large bottle of Advil. I appreciate your input. Thanks again. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lura" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? > Fran, > > In Ireland the family groupings were known as septs. The description > of these septs and the locations of where they lived can vary a little > depending on who is giving the information. > > Kevin Carroll, the administrator of the Carroll DNA project has posted > a good article entitled "What's in a Name" at > http://www.childtalk.com/History/articlewhatisinanamecarroll.htm > That tells something about where the different spellings and where > they might be found. > > Two of the septs are discussed at this site > http://www.clancian-carroll.com/carhist.shtml > > An Irishman now living in England recently wrote in a letter to me > this summary version of Carroll locations in Ireland. > > "There are five septs of the O'Carroll family, generally speaking: > Southwestern sept in Counties Cork and Kerry. > Ossory, mainly County Kilkenny. > Ely, mainly in Counties Offaly, North County Laois and North > Tipperary > Oriel, mainly County Louth. > Finally, there was a small sept around County Leitrim." > > So you see, it is a little like asking, "Where in the US do the Smiths > live?" They don't all live in one place. In 1300 AD it might not > have been hard to tell the basic areas where Carrolls lived, but by > 1850, they were scattered not only in Ireland but all over the British > Isles. There were even some who use the name Carroll now who actually > came from Germany, Switzerland, France, Ukraine, and other places. > > You will have better success if you start at the present and move > backwards a generation at a time, rather than trying to start in the > past and move toward the present. > > Hope that helps, > Lura CARROLL Southard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fran Weeks" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:18 PM > Subject: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? > > > : I have been working to find information on my CARROLL ancestors, > and I'm finding lots of material on CARROLLS, but not, I believe, on > mine. > : I'm missing a really important part of the puzzle, which is - > what place in Ireland was the primary settlement location or locations > of CARROLLS before the great migrations (caused by the famines) began? > : If someone has the answer to that question, I'd be very happy if > you would contact me. > : Thanks you. > : Fran Weeks > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: southard Surnames: Carroll Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7164/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was asked to post this obituary of Litha Ann Milby Carrroll. This obituary was printed in the "Bureau County Republican" in Princeton, Illinois on June 23, 1955. Lura Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My name is Jackie Purdy and I am a descendant of Jesse Carroll of North Carolina. In my August 2007, issue of the UDC Magazine (United Daughters of Confederacy) they are asking for help in locating families of Confederate Soldiers who died in Macon, Mississippi, and are buried in Unknown Graves.. There is one Carroll listed. John Carroll, of Alabama If anyone is connected to this man, or have any questions send and e-mail to [email protected] For Company, Regiment and Date of Death. They are hoping soon to erect memorial government markers for each soldier. Maybe this will help fill in someone's family line. Jackie Purdy, Shingle Springs, CA.

Lura, It sounds easy going backwards but what happens when you come upon a brick wall. I cannot leave Cowlitz County, Washington State usa, I have a James Madison Carroll Married in Cowlitz Co, Washington (Territory then) in 1854. He put in a later census that he was born in Kentucky and his mother was born in Kentucky and his father was born in Virginia. That would have been before Virginia split. Have any ideas of where to go from here? Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lura" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? > Fran, > > In Ireland the family groupings were known as septs. The description > of these septs and the locations of where they lived can vary a little > depending on who is giving the information. > > Kevin Carroll, the administrator of the Carroll DNA project has posted > a good article entitled "What's in a Name" at > http://www.childtalk.com/History/articlewhatisinanamecarroll.htm > That tells something about where the different spellings and where > they might be found. > > Two of the septs are discussed at this site > http://www.clancian-carroll.com/carhist.shtml > > An Irishman now living in England recently wrote in a letter to me > this summary version of Carroll locations in Ireland. > > "There are five septs of the O'Carroll family, generally speaking: > Southwestern sept in Counties Cork and Kerry. > Ossory, mainly County Kilkenny. > Ely, mainly in Counties Offaly, North County Laois and North > Tipperary > Oriel, mainly County Louth. > Finally, there was a small sept around County Leitrim." > > So you see, it is a little like asking, "Where in the US do the Smiths > live?" They don't all live in one place. In 1300 AD it might not > have been hard to tell the basic areas where Carrolls lived, but by > 1850, they were scattered not only in Ireland but all over the British > Isles. There were even some who use the name Carroll now who actually > came from Germany, Switzerland, France, Ukraine, and other places. > > You will have better success if you start at the present and move > backwards a generation at a time, rather than trying to start in the > past and move toward the present. > > Hope that helps, > Lura CARROLL Southard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fran Weeks" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:18 PM > Subject: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? > > > : I have been working to find information on my CARROLL ancestors, > and I'm finding lots of material on CARROLLS, but not, I believe, on > mine. > : I'm missing a really important part of the puzzle, which is - > what place in Ireland was the primary settlement location or locations > of CARROLLS before the great migrations (caused by the famines) began? > : If someone has the answer to that question, I'd be very happy if > you would contact me. > : Thanks you. > : Fran Weeks > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fran, In Ireland the family groupings were known as septs. The description of these septs and the locations of where they lived can vary a little depending on who is giving the information. Kevin Carroll, the administrator of the Carroll DNA project has posted a good article entitled "What's in a Name" at http://www.childtalk.com/History/articlewhatisinanamecarroll.htm That tells something about where the different spellings and where they might be found. Two of the septs are discussed at this site http://www.clancian-carroll.com/carhist.shtml An Irishman now living in England recently wrote in a letter to me this summary version of Carroll locations in Ireland. "There are five septs of the O'Carroll family, generally speaking: Southwestern sept in Counties Cork and Kerry. Ossory, mainly County Kilkenny. Ely, mainly in Counties Offaly, North County Laois and North Tipperary Oriel, mainly County Louth. Finally, there was a small sept around County Leitrim." So you see, it is a little like asking, "Where in the US do the Smiths live?" They don't all live in one place. In 1300 AD it might not have been hard to tell the basic areas where Carrolls lived, but by 1850, they were scattered not only in Ireland but all over the British Isles. There were even some who use the name Carroll now who actually came from Germany, Switzerland, France, Ukraine, and other places. You will have better success if you start at the present and move backwards a generation at a time, rather than trying to start in the past and move toward the present. Hope that helps, Lura CARROLL Southard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fran Weeks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? : I have been working to find information on my CARROLL ancestors, and I'm finding lots of material on CARROLLS, but not, I believe, on mine. : I'm missing a really important part of the puzzle, which is - what place in Ireland was the primary settlement location or locations of CARROLLS before the great migrations (caused by the famines) began? : If someone has the answer to that question, I'd be very happy if you would contact me. : Thanks you. : Fran Weeks

Thank you very much! Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? > THERE WERE MANY CARROLL'S IN WATERFORD COUNTY , IRELAND INCLUDING MINE. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

THERE WERE MANY CARROLL'S IN WATERFORD COUNTY , IRELAND INCLUDING MINE. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I have been working to find information on my CARROLL ancestors, and I'm finding lots of material on CARROLLS, but not, I believe, on mine. I'm missing a really important part of the puzzle, which is - what place in Ireland was the primary settlement location or locations of CARROLLS before the great migrations (caused by the famines) began? If someone has the answer to that question, I'd be very happy if you would contact me. Thanks you. Fran Weeks

YOU NEEDN'T SHOUT!!! Eric > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 11/7/2007 5:06:18 PM > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Primary location of CARROLLS in Ireland? > > THERE WERE MANY CARROLL'S IN WATERFORD COUNTY , IRELAND INCLUDING MINE. > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a John Abner Carroll Born 1848 from the Hatchet Creek area in Coosa County Alabama. No one knows how exactly or when he died. If you think this may be him, let me know. Thanks <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>><> Jimmy W. Carroll Alabama Department of Transportation Transportation Planning (Special Studies) 1409 Coliseum Boulevard Montgomery, Alabama 36110 Phone: (334) 242-6423 Cell: (334)-850-4706 Southern Linc: 1*99*851 Email: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CARROLL] Carroll Information My name is Jackie Purdy and I am a descendant of Jesse Carroll of North Carolina. In my August 2007, issue of the UDC Magazine (United Daughters of Confederacy) they are asking for help in locating families of Confederate Soldiers who died in Macon, Mississippi, and are buried in Unknown Graves.. There is one Carroll listed. John Carroll, of Alabama If anyone is connected to this man, or have any questions send and e-mail to [email protected] For Company, Regiment and Date of Death. They are hoping soon to erect memorial government markers for each soldier. Maybe this will help fill in someone's family line. Jackie Purdy, Shingle Springs, CA. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: I_Volunteer Surnames: Carroll Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7163/mb.ashx Message Board Post: IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 1284-07 November 06, 2007 Pilot Missing From the Vietnam War is Identified The Department of Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office (DPMO) announced today that the remains of a U.S. serviceman, missing from the Vietnam War, have been identified and will be returned to his family for burial with full military honors. He is Maj. John L. Carroll, U.S. Air Force, of Decatur, Ga. He will be buried on Nov. 13 at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo. On Nov. 7, 1972, Carroll was flying a Forward Air Controller mission over Xiangkhoang Province, Laos, when his O-1G Bird Dog aircraft was hit by enemy ground fire and forced to land. Once on the ground, he radioed the Search-and-Rescue (SAR) helicopters on his intent to stay in the aircraft. Two SAR helicopters attempted a recovery, but intense enemy fire forced them to depart the area. A second pickup attempt was made later, but the pilot of that helicopter saw that Carroll had been fatally wounded. The recovery attempt was unsuccessful due to nearby enemy forces that opened fire on the helicopter. In 1993, a joint U.S./Lao People's Democratic Republic (L.P.D.R) team, led by the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC), investigated the incident and surveyed the crash site. During the site survey, the team found small fragments of aircraft wreckage. Between 1996 and 2007, joint U.S./L.P.D.R./Socialist Republic of Vietnam teams, led by JPAC, conducted several interviews concerning the incident. One witness provided the team with identification media which belonged to Carroll. In another interview, a former People's Army of North Vietnam officer turned over some of Carroll's personal effects and told the team that local residents had buried Carroll. Another witness later led a team to the burial site. In 2007, a joint team excavated the burial site and found his remains. Among other forensic identification tools and circumstantial evidence, scientists from JPAC also used dental comparisons in the identification of the remains. For additional information on the Defense Department's mission to account for missing Americans, visit the DPMO web site at http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/ or call (703) 699-1169. http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=11461 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

On October 29, 2007 I posted on the CARROLL Rootsweb message board information about a book which has recently been placed online by Rootsweb. It might have information about your CARROLL ancestors if they lived in the western part of Virgina. I think part of that area might now be a part of WV. My message did not come through the mail list, probably because it exceeded the size limit for what can come the mail servers at Rootsweb. Rather than shorten the message, I decided to just post here the URL for the Rootsweb message board where I put the message. http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7160/mb.ashx The "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia" was extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County 1745-1800 by Lyman Chalkley. (Augusta County was a vast area at that time.) This was originally published by Mary S. Lockwood in 1912 and reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, 1965, 1966, and 1974. Library of Congress Catalogue Card Number 65-15351, International Standard Book Number 0-8063-0069-8. In the message board posting I gave the names and page numbers for not only Carrolls but some of the other soundex code names for C640. Hope some of you find your ancestor. Lura Southard List Administrator, [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lynnc1265 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7161/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on my g-grandfather Joseph Carroll. He was a granite cutter who was killed at the age of 35 by a falling stone while working on the B&O building in Baltimore. Date of death is 10/26/05. The informant on the death certificate was Charles Carroll (brother?) who lived at 121 S Schroeder St. in Baltimore. My g-grandfather's burial arrangements were made by John J Cowan & Sons Funeral Home at 901 Hollins St., Baltimore. He was buried in an unmarked grave on 10/30/05 at Holy Redeemer Cemetery. He left behind a widow, Mary E (Yeager) Carroll, and an unborn son, Joseph C. Carroll who was born on 1/24/06. He was also survived by his mother Mary, some brothers, and a sister. His father John pre-deceased him. Both parents, according to Charles, were born in Ireland. Joseph's widow Mary later went on to marry Charles Pleines and had several more sons. If anyone has researched other parts of this branch of the Carroll family, please share what you ! may have found. I'm stuck. thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jksdelver Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/7154.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the marriage record May 3 1870 in Sarnia Robert is the son of William Carroll and Helen Giuty? Robert aged 22 was born in Puslinch Ontario, but was living in Sarnia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone have information on a Luke Carroll who lived in Minneapolis, Minnesota sometime during the mid to late 1800's? Diane Heil [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I have heard of Luke Carrolls in Canada, and in Texas. I just checked the 1880 census for Minnesota and come up blank. Eric > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 10/24/2007 6:39:59 PM > Subject: Re: [CARROLL] William Carroll > > Does anyone have information on a Luke Carroll who lived in Minneapolis, > Minnesota sometime during the mid to late 1800's? > > Diane Heil > [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Karen -- I have no idea who William's father was. Did Joseph have a son named William born about 1794-1796? I only know his whereabouts from 1850 on -- in Georgia then Alabama. He was in the Atlanta area in 1850 with six children aged from 20 down to 6, with no wife in the household. The first 4 children were born in So. Carolina, the last two in Georgia (aged 9 and 6) His son Marion (aged 9 in the 1850 census) stated on his Confederate Pension appl. that he was born in Fulton Co. (not formed at that time -- it was still part of DeKalb), so both of the two younger children were probably born around the Atlanta area. Then William moved to Cherokee Co. AL and died there on April 10, 1887. His second wife was named Susan (probably Plemons), since on one of the census a Jane Plemons is part of his household, age 101. His six children in 1850 were James B., William, Mary A., Martha A., Marion (our line) and Clement. If any of these names ring a bell, please contact me. Linda Carroll Karen G Dougherty <[email protected]> wrote: > Is this the William Carroll who is the son of Joseph Carroll, first living in the Richland District,then moving to another county.Cant't remember which one, either Craven or York. I'm not directly related to that one, but am descended from Joseph Carroll through his daughter Martha Carroll/Carrellk m. to William J Hugg. Karen Dougherty Hello All -- I've just resubscribed to the CARROLL list after several > years of having no time. I have lost contact with a fellow Carroll > researcher named Sharon Moody. We connected on our family lines about 10 > years ago through this list. If Sharon is still monitoring this list, > please contact us. > > Still looking for additional information on William Carroll, born about > 1795-96 in South Carolina, and information on his first wife. I have > information to share if anyone is interested. > > Linda Carroll > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nicolewenzel Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.carroll/4149.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, Nothing specific but many similarities. gggrandfather is James Carroll m. Annie Regan 4 children: Mary, Helen, Anna, Catherine d.1965. Anna(my ggrandmother) married Hugh Mitchell. Hugh Mitchell's sister, Anna Mitchell m. James Doonan All resided in Philadelphia. contact if this seems similar Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

> Is this the William Carroll who is the son of Joseph Carroll, first living in the Richland District,then moving to another county.Cant't remember which one, either Craven or York. I'm not directly related to that one, but am descended from Joseph Carroll through his daughter Martha Carroll/Carrellk m. to William J Hugg. Karen Dougherty Hello All -- I've just resubscribed to the CARROLL list after several > years of having no time. I have lost contact with a fellow Carroll > researcher named Sharon Moody. We connected on our family lines about 10 > years ago through this list. If Sharon is still monitoring this list, > please contact us. > > Still looking for additional information on William Carroll, born about > 1795-96 in South Carolina, and information on his first wife. I have > information to share if anyone is interested. > > Linda Carroll > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >