In a message dated 7/7/2004 5:25:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Searching for information on Benjamin Carpenter who opened a store in Salina, Onondaga Co., NY in 1795. John Carpenter Mosher, I sure wish I had time to further explore your question, right now, but am packing up and heading for Oregon tomorrow morning. My Moses Carpenter went from Orange Co. NY about the same time as your Benjamin. Just from memory I can tell you that a Benjamin Carpenter witnessed one of the deeds that Moses had back in Orange co. NY prior to his move to Onondaga Co. Those deeds have been posted on the Orange co genweb site and I am sure you can find them either by finding that site or thru Googling. Additionally a John Carpenter who was married to an Abigail Cory moved to Onondaga Co about the same time. He died shortly thereafter and his widow married Hezikiah Woodruff. There are also listed deeds for Moses and John on the Onondaga Co website. The AB Carpenter book lists John Carpenter and Ruth Coe as the parents of Moses and John. This book also lists a brother, Benjamin, and I have (unvalidated) data that he married a Eunice Stewart and lived in Minisink (Or. Co.) in 1804. Furthermore, John Carpenter, the brother, also had a son, Benjamin who lived in Onondaga Co. and married Charlotte Bartlett Alden. (I believe these Bartletts may have been from Franklin Co., MA). It is confusing as we know that some Carpenters appparently, directly from MA also came down into that area of NY about the same time. You might find my Moses Carpenter's will also without much trouble on one of the boards, as it is under either the Carpenter or Onondaga Co. forum site. It lists a Joanna Fay as a granddaughter, therefore we have even more confusion/duplication of surenames. Phoebe in CA

It appears there was Gordian knot of Carpenters in Orange Co. NY, and mindboggling loops of Benjamins, Williams, and Johns everywhere in every generation. I have yet another Benjamin Carpenter, was born 13 Sept. 1794 in Middletown according to his 1884 death record in Wis. I had been researching my grandfather Carpenter's antecedent, Horace Carpenter, in Washington Co., NY.and in NH, only to discover that his family are distant cousins to my grandmother's Carpenter antecedents in Orange Co. This fact would have completely astonished them both and I wish they were still around to tell. Both evidently descend from William of Rehoboth, if one accepts a couple of probable but still unproven links. I believe this is the same Benjamin who is mentioned as #910 in the Carpenter Memorial, though the birth year is given only as "about 1790" and the birthplace is given as Walkill or Pine Swamp, NY, not Middletown. There is a notation that he "went to Wisconsin," and the daughter Matilda and husband Augustus Coleman who are mentioned were the names of my great-great-great grandparents. There were also other children mentioned, who are otherwise unknown to me. Benjamin #910 was the son of William #306, son of Solomon #75. My research shows Benjamin "fought the English" (presumably in the War of 1812), married 1st in 1815 to Jane Keene, daughter of "Capt. Keene. " They went west about 1845 and Jane died in 1966 in Waukesha Co., Wisconsin. Benjamin married 2nd to a Mrs. Naomi Barnes. He married 3rd at the age of 80 (!) to M. G. McCurdy, and then at the age of almost 87 married yet a 4th time (!!) to Helen Adamson, a woman less than half his age, which occasioned an amusing mention in the newspaper wishing him vigorous good health and much marital happiness. If someone else is working on these Carpenter families I would be interested in tips on additional sources that may not be obvious to me or any information one desires to share. Thank you. --Pam Berger

Hi Pamela, Could the Carpenter's you mentioned be connected to the Carpenter's of Herkimer CO. NY.? Iris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Berger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Benjamin Carpenter, Orange Co. NY > It appears there was Gordian knot of Carpenters in Orange Co. NY, and > mindboggling loops of Benjamins, Williams, and Johns everywhere in every > generation. I have yet another Benjamin Carpenter, was born 13 Sept. 1794 > in Middletown according to his 1884 death record in Wis. I had been > researching my grandfather Carpenter's antecedent, Horace Carpenter, in > Washington Co., NY.and in NH, only to discover that his family are distant > cousins to my grandmother's Carpenter antecedents in Orange Co. This fact > would have completely astonished them both and I wish they were still around > to tell. Both evidently descend from William of Rehoboth, if one accepts a > couple of probable but still unproven links. > > I believe this is the same Benjamin who is mentioned as #910 in the > Carpenter Memorial, though the birth year is given only as "about 1790" and > the birthplace is given as Walkill or Pine Swamp, NY, not Middletown. There > is a notation that he "went to Wisconsin," and the daughter Matilda and > husband Augustus Coleman who are mentioned were the names of my > great-great-great grandparents. There were also other children mentioned, > who are otherwise unknown to me. Benjamin #910 was the son of William #306, > son of Solomon #75. > > My research shows Benjamin "fought the English" (presumably in the War > of 1812), married 1st in 1815 to Jane Keene, daughter of "Capt. Keene. " > They went west about 1845 and Jane died in 1966 in Waukesha Co., Wisconsin. > Benjamin married 2nd to a Mrs. Naomi Barnes. He married 3rd at the age of > 80 (!) to M. G. McCurdy, and then at the age of almost 87 married yet a 4th > time (!!) to Helen Adamson, a woman less than half his age, which occasioned > an amusing mention in the newspaper wishing him vigorous good health and > much marital happiness. If someone else is working on these Carpenter > families I would be interested in tips on additional sources that may not be > obvious to me or any information one desires to share. Thank . --Pam > Berger > > >