Robin, "The third paragraph is a mystery" - See the data below. I hope it helps. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA NEW e-mail address: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Analytix: RobinC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] [MinVal] Carpenter Info > Hello Carpenters > The info below was provided me on the Minisink Valley > list-serve. The first two paragraphs refer to Carpenters known to > me. (Silas and Moses W. are brothers.) The third paragraph is a mystery; > Levi Carpenter of Lumberland might be a relative of the Silas > Carpenter and Moses W. Carpenter households...or maybe not. > If anyone here knows about Levi and his family, I'd sure like to > hear it. (Or, if anyone has info on later generations of ANY of these > Carpenters, that would be terrific, too.) > Robin > > > >Hi Robin, > > > >I found your Carpenters on the 1870 census in Lumberland, Sullivan Co., NY. > >Silas Carpenter, age 50, was a boat builder; Clarissa age 80 was keeping > >house; Margaret age 48 and Temp. age 39, all born NY. Also in the household > >was Richard Campbell who "works at building boats" and was born in England. > > > >In Forestburgh, Sullivan Co I found Moses W. Carpenter, 49, farmer; Eliza D. > >age 35; Clarrisa J. age 9; Lewis E. age 5; Hattie age 3; Moses W. age 1. > >All were born in NY > > > >In Lumberland, Levi Carpenter age 36, b. NY, farmer & Maria age 35, b. NJ > >had Melissa age 17; Benjamin 15; John H. age 10; Moses age 4; Peter E. age > >2; Isaac age 6/12. Children born in NY. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Analytix: RobinC" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:35 AM > >Subject: [MinVal] Carpenter Info > > ______________________________ Modified Register for Levi Carpenter-21099 First Generation 1. Levi Carpenter-21099 was born about 1832 in Carpenter's Point, Minisink, Orange, NY. He died in of, Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. Number 2154 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 277. No Family listed in that book. The family listed is likely but not proved see below. E-MAIL: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Lee Carpenter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: Len nd Marie Carpenter > Dear John, > I meant to info-copy you on this e-mail yesterday -- it > picks up a line that is not traced out further in Amos B. > Carpenter's book, though we don't have absolute proof yet. > However, it sure looks very likely to prove out. The > family can be summarized as follows: > > Levi Carpenter, born c1834 in NY, married 1850 to Marie > Perry, who was born c1835 in NJ. They resided in Sullivan > Co. NY in 1870 and 1880. He is probably ABC#2154 on p. 277 > in Amos Bugbee Carpenter's "Carpenter Memorial," a son of > John Carpenter ABC#918, however, proof is needed. > Children: > 1. Melissa Carpenter, born in Dec 1851 at Mongaup, Sullivan > Co. NY, married at Pond Eddy, Sullivan Co. NY, and died at > Port Jervis, Orange Co. NY [JT]. She married c1871 to > James Forbes Taylor, who was born c1850 in NY [JT]. They > resided in Orange Co. NY in 1880 and 1900. Children from > these censuses: > 1a. Joseph Taylor, born 4 Aug 1872 -- ancestor of JT. > 1b. Carrie Taylor, born c1874. > 1c. Edwin H. Taylor, born c1877. > {probably others born 1880-1900} > 1d. William Taylor, born Apr 1887. > 2. Benjamin Carpenter, born c1855. > 3. John H. Carpenter, born c1860. > 4. Moses Carpenter, born c1866. > 5. Peter E. Carpenter, born c1868. > 6. Isaac [1870] or Abram [1880] Carpenter, born c1870. > 7. Sanford Carpenter, born c1872. > > JT = Jim Taylor, Warren, OH, <[email protected]>: post to > the GenForum Carpenter Family Genealogy Forum dated 1 Jan > 2003, e-mails to TLC dated 3 Jan 2003 and subsequent. > > You might want to add this summary to the CE CD for other > researchers to reference. I was surprised to find the > Orange Co. NY lines not well documented. Perhaps there are > other researchers working on the line who could help Jim > find his connection with the help of the CE CD. > > Best regards, > Terry CENSUS: 1880 Census 1880 Census Place: Port Jervis, Orange Co., New York Source: FHL Film 1254910 National Archives Film T9-0910, Page 215B: Levi CARPENTER Self M M W 47 NY Occ: Carpenter Fa: ---Mo: --- Mary J. CARPENTER Wife F M W 46 NY Occ: Keeping House Fa: NJ Mo: NY John H. CARPENTER Son M S W 21 NY Occ: Glass Factory Fa: NY Mo: NY Moses CARPENTER Son M S W 16 NY Occ: Masons Trade Fa: NY Mo: NY Peter CARPENTER Son M S W 13 NY Occ: Barbers Trade Fa: NY Mo: NY Abram CARPENTER Son M S W 10 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY Sanford CARPENTER Son M S W 8 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY Minnie CARPENTER Dau F S W 4 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY CENSUS: 1870 US Census 1870 census in Lumberland, Sullivan Co., NY. In Lumberland, Levi Carpenter age 36, b. NY, farmer & Maria age 35, b. NJ had Melissa age 17; Benjamin 15; John H. age 10; Moses age 4; Peter E. age 2; Isaac age 6/12. Children born in NY. **************************** http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/7011.html Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter Posted by: James Taylor (ID *****7419) Date: February 06, 2004 at 19:19:36 In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by Terry Carpenter of 7016 Terry, A very helpful researcher (Minisink Valley Historical Society) has shared Benjamin's son, Levi V. Carpenter's obituary. It is as follows: (January 1898) "He was born in the old stone fort, now a part of the farm house of Mr. Henry G. Cuddeback on June 29, 1832, being thus 65 years and 6 months of age." He was married to 1.Mary J. Perry, who died 15 years ago & 2.Mrs. Coleman, who survives him. He leaves besides his wife, sons Benjamin D, Peter E, Sanford, Abram C. Daughters: Mellissa Taylor & Minnie Sterritt. Brother-David Carpenter & 1/2 brother Christopher Hollenbeck & 1/2 sister Mrs Mary Ayers." Nancy goes on to say,"I have a copy of the death certificate (not really a certificate just a journal entry) He died of Consumption. It only states he died in Port Jervis and where he is buried." Another researcher from the Minisink Valley Historical Society is compiling information on my Carpenter Line and will share with me as soon as everything is properly checked out. Jim in Ohio http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6971.html Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter Posted by: James Taylor (ID *****7419) Date: January 18, 2004 at 11:30:48 In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by Terry Carpenter of 7016 Hi Terry, So glad you saw my new information. I don't have any clues concerning Elizabeth Canfield. The only possible clue that I can think of is that Levi had a half brother David Carpenter. I figured Elizabeth had passed away and Benjamin married a second time. But perhaps Elizabeth survived and remarried. Also a fellow Carpenter researcher shared the following information with me and I thought I would share it with you. Benjamin Carpenter b. Abt 1757 in Jericho, Queens County, Long island. He married Eunice Stewart b. 1756. Their child, Benjamin, was b. Abt 1780 in Minisink, Orange County, New York. Minisink is a neighboring town to Deerpark in New York. My Benjamin was recorded as 40-50 years old on the 1840 census. Time frame and location makes it possible for these Carpenters to be in my Carpenter family. I am hoping you might be able to help confirm my suspicions. Jim Taylor http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6966.html Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter Posted by: James Taylor (ID *****7419) Date: January 14, 2004 at 12:03:50 of 7016 I am researching my gggrandfather Levi V. Carpenter. I just received Levi's Civil War Pension file today. His parents are identified as Benj. D. Carpenter and Elizabeth Canfield. Benj. and Elizabeth were living in the Town of Deerpark, New York when Levi was born in about 1833. I would appreciate any information about Benj. Carpenter or Elizabeth Canfield's family lines. Thanks, Jim ************************** http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6985.html Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter Posted by: Terry Carpenter (ID *****7761) Date: January 25, 2004 at 19:26:54 In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by James Taylor of 7016 Jim: Here's a couple more clues that turned up in my Saturday notes from Orange Co. NY records after I posted the others: Church records at Machackemack (Deerpark) Orange Co. NY record the birth of Elizabeth Canfield on 1 Sep 1809 to David and Mary (Sammons) Canfield. Her age correlates well with the Elizabeth Carpenter who was in Deerpark, Orange Co. NY in 1850 and in Lumberland, Sullivan Co. NY in 1860. Same records record the birth of a child, no name given, on 22 Jan 1807 to Benjamin and Margaret (Decker) Carpenter -- could be your Benjamin D. Carpenter. http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6982.html Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter Posted by: Terry (ID *****7761) Date: January 24, 2004 at 16:30:23 In Reply to: Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by James Taylor of 7016 Jim: A few more clues that have turned up in Orange Co. NY records: - Eleanor Carpenter, born in 1793, daughter of Benjamin and Margaret (Decker) Carpenter, married Levi VanEtten Jr. - When Benjamin Carpenter died in 1821, Levi VanEtten Jr. was one of the executors of his will. - Benjamin Carpenter who died in 1821 had a son Benjamin named in his will. Levi VanEtten may be the person for whom your Levi V. Carpenter was named. If his father Benjamin D. Carpenter was a son of Benjamin and Margaret (Decker) Carpenter, he might have named a son after his brother-in-law. More speculation, but could turn out to be good clues to follow. http://genforum.genealogy.com/carpenter/messages/6970.html Re: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter Posted by: Terry Carpenter (ID *****7761) Date: January 17, 2004 at 07:17:48 In Reply to: Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter by James Taylor of 7016 Hi Jim -- Glad to see you've made more progress on your Carpenter line. There is a Benjamin Carpenter in Deerpark, Orange Co. NY in 1830 who appears to be the one there in 1840 with a son in the right age range to be Levi, born c1830-1835. In 1850 Deerpark, Orange Co. NY there is this Elizabeth: Elizabeth Carpenter, age 40, born NY Samuel Carpenter, 21, NY Martin Carpenter 19, NY She might or might not be Elizabeth (Canfield) Carpenter, widow of Benjamin -- the data don't fit perfectly, and Levi V. is not enumerated in her household. Any leads or clues you can give to help find her? Your Levi V. is enumerated in Orange Co. NY in 1860: Levi V. Carpenter, 26, NY, miller Mary J. Carpenter, 25, NJ Melissa A. Carpenter, 8, NY Benjamin D. Carpenter, 5, NY Charles W. Carpenter, 3, NY John W. Carpenter, 7/12, NY He was in Sullivan Co. NY in 1870 and Orange Co. NY in 1880, as previously documented. If you can connect him back, I would be interested in learning more about this line -- the Orange Co. NY Carpenters may have had descendants in the southern states so I have been researching them. Terry Levi married (MRIN:8756) Marie Perry-90412 about 1850 in , , , NY. Marie was born about 1835 in , , , NJ. They had the following children: + 2 F i. Melissa Carpenter-90455 was born in Dec 1851. 3 M ii. Benjamin Carpenter-90456 was born about 1855 in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. 4 M iii. John H. Carpenter-90457 was born about 1860 in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. 5 M iv. Moses Carpenter-90458 was born about 1866 in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. 6 M v. Peter E. Carpenter-90459 was born about 1868 in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. 7 M vi. Isaac or Abram Carpenter-90460 was born in 1870 in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. In the 1870 census he was listed as Isaac and in the 1880 census he was listed as Abram. Both born 1870. From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:30 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Abram Predmore Carpenter 1870 Port Jervis New York > I just received the obit. for Abram Predmore Carpenter. He was born in 1870 > at Glen Spey in Sullivan County New York. Abram died July 4, 1918 in Goshen, > New York. He was the brother of my great grandmother Mellisa Carpenter > Taylor. His parents were Levi V. and Mary Jane Perry Carpenter. He grandparents > were Benjamin D. and Elizabeth Canfield Carpenter. I am hoping that someone on > this list has a Abram Predmore Carpenter connection that will help me connect > to his great grandparents. > Thanks, > Jim in Ohio 8 M vii. Sanford Carpenter-90461 was born about 1872 in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. Second Generation 2. Melissa Carpenter-90455 (Levi) was born in Dec 1851 in Mongaup, Sullivan, NY. She died in Port Jervis, Orange, NY. Melissa married (MRIN:32792) James Forbes Taylor-90462 about 1871 in , , , NY. James was born about 1850 in , , , NY. Was he the following person? James TAYLOR (AFN: 2G43-S0) Sex: M Event(s): Birth: 20 Sep 1851 Hobart, Deleware, Ny Parents: Father: Edmund Baruch TAYLOR (AFN: 2G43-KR) Mother: Elizabeth Janet KILPATRICK (AFN: 2G43-LX) No exact match in IGI. James and Melissa had the following children: 9 M i. Joseph Taylor-90463 was born on 4 Aug 1872 in , Orange, NY. 10 F ii. Carrie Taylor-90464 was born about 1874 in , Orange, NY. 11 M iii. Edwin H. Taylor-90465 was born about 1877 in , Orange, NY. 12 M iv. William Taylor-90466 was born in Apr 1877 in , Orange, NY.