Hello Robert, I can add a little information for these two Zimmermann/Carpenters. The Boston Carpenter who was in the tax list in Logan Co. KY in 1800 was in Caldwell Co. KY in 1810, age 26-45 (born c1765-1784) with a female the same age (born c1765-1784), one male age 10-16 (born c1794-1800), two females age 16-26 (born c1784-1794), one female 10-16 (born c1794-1800), and two females less than 10 years of age (born c1800-1810). Caldwell Co. KY tax lists of 1809-1811 record him as one white over age 21. A tax list taken in Caldwell Co. KY in 1820 lists Boston Carpenter in Bennett Langston Esquires District and assessed him for one male over age 21, 2 horses, no land, and no slaves. I have not located him in the 1820 census or thereafter. There is a Sebastian Carpenter in Monroe Co. IL in 1840 born c1780-1790, and a Mary Carpenter in Monroe Co. IL in 1850, born c1789 in PA, but they do not appear to be related -- they are probably the Sebastian and Mary (Gundy) Carpenter who are listed on page 178 of Edwin Sawyer Walkers work Genealogical Notes of the Carpenter Family (1907). I havent found William or Ulrich VZ Carpenter for certain after he sold his land on the south side of the Saluda River in Greenville Co. SC to William Acker on 27 Oct 1788. A William Acre who served in the NC State Line during the American Revolution was a pensioner in Wayne Co. KY in 1833. In nearby Adair Co. KY, which adjoined Wayne Co. before Russell Co. was formed in 1826, there is a tombstone for a William Carpenter with the following inscription: William Carpenter, 17 May 1746 - 24 Oct 1834 -- this William has not been placed in another family, to my knowledge. From the above, it appears Boston/Sebastian Carpenter could have had at least one son born c1794-1800 and five daughters born c1784-1810, though of course those individuals in his household could have been of another relationship, perhaps step-children. But I have not been able to conclusively identify any children for him. William is more of an unknown. It would be great to see some research on these two -- their presence in the southern states at such an early date makes both of them candidates for the origin of several Carpenter lines that have so far not been connected. Best regards, Terry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Carpenter" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:56 PM > Subject: Bostian/Boston Carpenter and John > Ulrich (William) Carpenter > > > > Dear listers, > > > > I have researched German speaking > Carpenters/Zimmermans for some years > > now. I am seeking information on the > following two individuals: > > > > 1. Bastian/Bostian/Boston Carpenter was > listed in NC as a Revolutionary > > soldier, was in the 1790 Pendleton District, > SC census and was in the 1800 > > Logan County, KY tax lists. I have lost him > from there. > > > > 2. John Ulrich, variously spelled Waldreck, > Woolrich, Ubrick, and William > > Carpenter. He signed with a VZ mark. He was > in the Gaston and Lincoln > > County, NC area in the late 1760's through > the early 1770's. He also was > > listed in Revolutionary service. He was also > in the 1790 Pendleton > > District, SC census. I have lost him from > there but he sold out in SC and > > probably moved nearby Boston Carpenter. > > > > I suspect these two individuals to be > brothers. If anyone has information > > on them, I would appreciate it. > > > > Thanks, > > Robert Carpenter > > > > ______________________________ > >