"Incidentally, The Winthrop Papers, vol. 4 (1638-1644), contains nothing relating to William1 of Providence." Many thanks to Gene. I hope he doesn't neglect the subsequent volumes which, as I recall, have a number of William1 of Providence references, and more interestingly material relating to his father-in-law and their relationship. I should give an accounting of all these and will after my return to my Japan residence. BC