Thanks, Phoebe. I've done research in the NEHGS manuscript collection but not on the Carpenters. Gene Z. In a message dated 2/18/2005 6:01:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Mzzcortezz writes: Gene, I just searched the NEGHS website, manuscripts lib., and found a few references for Carpenters, even one for Bloomingrove, NY. I wonder if you have ever seen any of these papers? Keep up the good work! Hi, Margaret, Phoebe in CA