You are welcome. John :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gerald" <shaggy41@pmtnet.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] re. Carpenter - You are both right Thats good info to know John ,Thank you. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Carpenter (JRC)" <jrcrin001@cox.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] re. Carpenter - You are both right Hello, You are both right. Many English "shire" genealogical or historical groups have provided will information for decades. This includes the work by Mr. Hidden. More and more data is being collated from different sources and placed on line weekly. There are several different web pages that have wills and other documents in England. This includes, "... Wiltshire Wills goes live - December 2006." Please remember that when sharing Carpenter data and sources that some websites require passwords and payment. Please cite that when sharing. Most people can not afford to pay for all that which is out there. When sharing restricted sites or data from semi or private sources, cite (copy & paste or write) the critical portion. This is like providing a written review. Reviews, critques and such are allowable under the "Fair Use" portion of Copyright Law. Do not forget to tell the reader where the data came from. For example the following is cited as if under the Fair Use clause: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107 "§ 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use 38 Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include - (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; (2) the nature of the copyrighted work; (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors." I hope this helps. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Greenwood" <daveyg33@yahoo.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] re. Carpenter > Mr. Carpenter is confused. The Wiltshire wills > have been available long enough for Mr. Hidden to > transcribe them and put them on his page by 1998, > and the images have been online since at least > 2004. An ongoing opportunity, dating back quite > some time. Treating with caution is indeed good > advice whenever dealing with someone whose > research may be biased by an arrogant disregard > for facts. > > David > Washington, DC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message