This is my Carpenter/Zimmerman family which I have researched for many yeras. This Zimmerman family is a large family which is part of the Zimmermans of Steffisburg, Canton of Bern, Switzerland, who moved to Alsace in present France. They then came to America. Some members of the family remained in Pennsylvania and retained the Zimmerman name. Others, like my family, moved to North Carolina and took the Carpenter name. Research is often difficult because of the high numbers of Carpenters during these early years. One way of dealing with the research is to determine whether they were originally Zimmerman or not. We must always remember that not all Carpenters are directly related to each other and not all Zimmermans are related to each other. Lots of research is needed to determine relationships. Thanks Donna for sharing this good example. Robert Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Cuzze" <dcuzze@earthlink.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] ZIMMERMAN proof of CARPENTER Hello All and Merry Christmas, I don't know if I connect to Zimmermans beyond my known ancestor, but I have often wondered where the PROOF came from showing that ZIMMERMANS changed their name to CARPENTER. Well, I ran across this and thought maybe someone might need it. This shows the court naming Jacob Carpenter but he signs as JACOB ZIMMERMAN: TRYON COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND QUARTER SESSIONS 1769-1779 July term 1774 North Carolina, Tryon County. Jacob Costner, ""Jacob Carpenter,"" Michael Rudisel, Peter Aker, Jacob Haws, Adolph Reep & Peter Castner, bound to Josiah Martin, Governor, in the sum of £1000 sterling, 27 July 1774, for the performance of Jacob Costner in the office of Sheriff. Jacob Costner (Seal), ""Jacob Zimmerman (Seal),"" Michel Rudisel (Seal), Peter Aker (X) (Seal), Jacob Hass (Seal), Adolf Riel (Seal), Peter Costner (C) (Seal), Wit: John Dunn, Andw. Neel. Donna Carpenter-Cuzze ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message