Thank you all for this information- my children are descended from Christian Carpenter as well; Christian, Jacob, Henry, Ambrose D., William Ambrose to Swin Carl Carpenter their grandfather. I live in Oregon and haven't been able to research much but did purchase Robert C. Carpenter's book "Carpenters A Plenty" which helped me make the connection, as well as assistance from Terry Carpenter in MS to connect Ambrose and William. Thanks again, Susan -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martha Hardcastle Guthrie Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:41 PM To: Donna Cuzze; carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] ZIMMERMAN proof of CARPENTER My ancestor, Christian Carpenter was previously known as Christian Zimmerman in Switzerland. He was (likely) the son of Hans Zimmerman (John Carpenter) and both came on the ship Pink Plaisance in 1737. Christian went by C Z Carpenter, and his mark was "C Z." He was also in Tryon (later called Lincoln) County and he and his son-in-law, Peter Sides (Seitz) signed the Tyron Resolves in August 1775. http://ourworld.cs.com/JourneysThruTime/id208.htm Hans Zimmerman was born in Wattenwil, Canton Bern, Switzerland about 1702. Hans died 10 June 1794 in Lincoln Co., NC, at 91 years of age. In America he was also known as John Carpenter. He married Sarah Salome unknown. Hans Zimmerman and Sarah Salome unknown had the following child: i. Jacob Carpenter was born 1734. Not proven as a son, however he did name a daughter Sarah Salome. ii. Johannes Zimmerman was born before 1755. The only proven son of Hans Zimmerman Other possible brothers or half brothers include Christian "CZ" Zimmerman (buried on Jacob's farm) and Peter Zimmerman (whom oral tradition says is Jacob's half brother. Martha Donna Cuzze wrote: > Hello All and Merry Christmas, > > I don't know if I connect to Zimmermans beyond my known ancestor, but I have often wondered where the PROOF came from showing that ZIMMERMANS changed their name to CARPENTER. > Well, I ran across this and thought maybe someone might need it. This shows the court naming Jacob Carpenter but he signs as JACOB ZIMMERMAN: > > TRYON COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA MINUTES OF THE COURT OF PLEAS AND QUARTER SESSIONS 1769-1779 > > July term 1774 > > North Carolina, Tryon County. Jacob Costner, ""Jacob Carpenter,"" Michael Rudisel, Peter Aker, Jacob Haws, Adolph Reep & Peter Castner, bound to Josiah Martin, Governor, in the sum of £1000 sterling, 27 July 1774, for the performance of Jacob Costner in the office of Sheriff. Jacob Costner (Seal), ""Jacob Zimmerman (Seal),"" Michel Rudisel (Seal), Peter Aker (X) (Seal), Jacob Hass (Seal), Adolf Riel (Seal), Peter Costner (C) (Seal), Wit: John Dunn, Andw. Neel. > > > > Donna Carpenter-Cuzze > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message