Muriel, Do you know anything about his ancestry and if any male Carpenter descendants are alive today? Did he marry Catherine Dowdle on 05 APR 1750 Heytesbury, Wiltshire, England? "His son, Frank William Carpenter married my great aunt Marie England. She is the daughter of William England the celebrated stereophotographer." Do you have any info on his son and his family? Curious! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm IGI JOSEPH EDWARDES CARPENTER Birth: 02 NOV 1813 London, London, England Death: 06 MAY 1885 CENSUS: 1881 British Census Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Joseph E. CARPENTER Head M Male 67 London St Georges With East , London, Middlesex, England PH Dr Literature Catherine CARPENTER Wife M Female 71 London, London, Middlesex, England Agnes M. CARPENTER Daur U Female 35 Leamington, Warwick, England Principal Of School For Boys James BRISTOW Boarder U Male 22 London Lambeth , London, Middlesex, England Commercial Clerk Annie THURGOOD Governess U Female 20 Ongar, Essex, England Governess (./N) William CALDER Boarder Male 11 British Guiana Scholar Herbert L. CALDER Boarder Male 9 British Guiana Scholar Cuthbert E. SWAN Boarder Male 4 England Scholar Rachael COLK Servant Female 31 Norfolk, England Cook Ellen SULLIVAN Servant Female 17 Ireland Housemaid -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 20 Norland Square Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341007 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0031 / 126 Page Number 37 Joseph Edwards Carpenter, English poet and song writer Your quote of his work is also at: http://www.bartleby.com/100/477.html See also: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/sm2html/sm2great4.html Greatest Hits, 1820-60: Variety Music Cavalcade 1850-1860 What Are the Wild Waves Saying? Duet. w., Joseph Edwards Carpenter. m., Stephen Glover. (The words were suggested by the deathbed scene of little Paul, haunted by memories of the sea, in Dickens's novel Dombey and Son which was published in London during 1847-48. Glover brought out the song in 1850. It was reprinted by Wm. A. Pond & Co., New York, during the late 1860s or 1870s.) http://www.nla.gov.au/cdview/nla.mus-vn3416517&mode=moreinfo Creator: Glover, Stephen, 1813-1870. Contributor: Carpenter, J. E. (Joseph Edwards), 1813-1885. Glover, Stephen, 1813-1870. Title: What are the wild waves saying? [music] : duet / written ... by Joseph Edwards Carpenter ; the music composed by Stephen Glover. Date: 1880 - 1889 Published: London : Robert Cocks and Co. ; Melbourne: Allan & Co., [188-] Subjects: Vocal duets with piano. Choral music, Australian -- To 1899. Material Type: Music Physical Description: 1 score (9 p.) ; 36 cm. Notes: For vocal duet and piano. Pl. no.: 7641. "Founded on an incident in the narrative 'Dombey and Son', written and respectfully inscribed to Charles Dickens, Esq.". "Vocal duett"--Cover. Also available in an electronic version via the Internet at: http://nla.gov.au/nla.mus-vn3416517 To cite this item use: http://nla.gov.au/nla.mus-vn3416517 http://www.antiqbook.co.uk/boox/bookso/102219.shtml JOSEPH EDWARDS CARPENTER My Jubilee Volume London, Printed for the Author By Clayton and Co. 1883, First Edition. Hard Cover. Privately Printed, Minor rubbing to cloth boards. Owners stamp to inside front endpaper. Otherwise an exceptionally clean and bright copy. 335pp. Very Good/No Jacket. GBP 38.00 = appr. US$ 77.06 Offered by: Books-on - Book number: 102219 See more books from our catalog: Poetry http://www.pgil-eirdata.org/html/pgil_datasets/authors/c/Carpenter,JE/life.htm Joseph Edwards Carpenter Life 1813-1885; Lays and Legends of Fairyland, with poems and songs (London 1849) and other works incl. Minstrel Musings (18?83). Ed. many collections and anthols., incl. The New Irish Song Book, The Shamrock Songster, The Mavourneen Songster [ANTH], lived in London, b. 1813, d. 1885. PI ODQ Notes Belfast Public Library holds Lays and Legends of Fairyland (1849). Princess Grace Irish Library (Monaco) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Muriel Morris" <chillidachs@uniserve.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Joseph Edwards Carpenter > Here's a RAOGK: Joseph Edwards Carpenter was an English professor and > poet and songwriter, living in London (20 Norlands Square, Notting Hill in > 1881). He published two books that I know of : Lays and Legends of > Fairyland (1849) a copy of which exists in the Princess Grace Library in > Monaco, and My Jubilee Volume (1877). He was well enough known to be > quoted in Bartett's Familiar Quotations, although he is a lost victorian > voice by now. His citation is for this: > John Bartlett (1820-1905). Familiar Quotations, 10th ed. 1919. > > Joseph Edwards Carpenter. (1813- ?) > > > 1 > What are the wild waves saying, > Sister, the whole day long, > That ever amid our playing > I hear but their low, lone song? > What are the wild Waves saying? > 2 > Yes! but there's something greater > That speaks to the heart alone: > 'T is the voice of the great Creator > Dwells in that mighty tone. > What are the wild Waves saying? Refrain. > > - What are the Wild Waves Saying? [Ocean] > > His son, Frank William Carpenter married my great aunt Marie England. She > is the daughter of William England the celebrated stereophotographer. > Cheers, > Muriel Morris, Chilliwack, British Columbia, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >