Please pardon my interruption , I am from Georgia, my ancestor is Bailey Carpenter 1765-1834, he was for many years believed to be the brother of Stephen Cullis Carpenter, Stephen is listed in the SC Archives in the 1700's . Sandra Carpenter Jay went to the Ga Archives and copied the bibles of the Carpenters inside written somewhere in the late 1700's it states that the Carpenters were French.Is anyone working on the Georgia Carpenters.? Thanks so much for allowing me to post this, Dorothy Smith Carpenter- Crosby > [Original Message] > From: Gray Church <graychurch@verizon.net> > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/18/2008 6:50:35 PM > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] CARPENTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 54 > > Hi, Folks! I would like to apologize a second time to John L. Carpenter, > who is the "REAL" administrator of this list. (I apologized the first time > after my original posting which incorrectly named John R. Carpenter as the > list admin.) > > John L. Carpenter has done a fabulous job keeping us connected and I'd like > to thank him for the great work he does for all of us Carpenters. He > doesn't get enough credit for the hours he donates to us "cousins." > > That being said, I still REALLY ENJOYED meeting John R. Carpenter at the > SDSG meeting last year and if someone devotes some web space for posting > family resemblances, I have lots of old and (relatively) new photos to > share! > > Gray Carpenter Church > Temecula, California > > > -----Original Message----- > From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of carpenter-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:50 PM > To: carpenter@rootsweb.com > Subject: CARPENTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 54 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Y-DNA Testing (Pamela Berger) > 2. Re: John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS (Pamela Berger) > 3. Re: John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > (John R. Carpenter) > 4. Re: John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS (Jim Carpenter) > 5. Re: John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > (janrobison2@aim.com) > 6. Carpenter Lineage Search (Ron Carpenter) > 7. Re: John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > (John R. Carpenter) > 8. Re: John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS (Jim Carpenter) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:21:20 -0500 > From: "Pamela Berger" <westwind@milwpc.com> > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Y-DNA Testing > To: <fnldg1@uaf.edu>, <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <01f101c8a062$0912df10$ba7e6142@owner64fff3760> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Lance, > Thanks for answering. There doesn't appear to be a connection--it was a > long shot. Perhaps someone could assist your cousin with the cheek swab--a > caretaker or closer relative? I am not sure if it is more complicated or > expensive to test from a licked envelope, a lock of hair or other things, > but it can be done. If have you other direct male-line Carpenter > descendants perhaps they will become interested in the future. My uncle was > > the last male Carpenter of our branch, so it seemed important for him to > participate if we were to use DNA at all on that line. He thought it was > interesting and did the swab, though a relative had to assist a little. > Shortly afterwards he passed away. I had the funeral director clip a lock > of hair just in case anything more would be needed later. --Pam B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lance Gillette" <fnldg1@uaf.edu> > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:52 AM > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Y-DNA Testing > > > > Hi Pam: > > > > Merle was born in Colorado and his father in Kansas. Before that it was > > Michigan. Before that Rhode Island. > > > > Unfortunately Merle is so elderly and doesn't remember things well. I > > tried to get a dna sample from him. He agreed on the phone. I then sent > > him a detailed letter explaining it all. But he doesn't remember receiving > > a letter from me or the dna kit. So I don't think it will be feasible for > > him to submit his dna under the circumstances. > > > > Lance > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:36:08 -0500 > From: "Pamela Berger" <westwind@milwpc.com> > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of > SDGS > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <01f201c8a062$093b4ea0$ba7e6142@owner64fff3760> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Wouldn't it be interesting if one could post photos of those who are willing > > (or dead) maybe on the Carprenter cousins DNA project or somewhere else to > see those interesting and sometimes surprising family resemblances across > cousindom? --Pam B. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gray Church" <graychurch@verizon.net> > > > > To all of you who haven't had the pleasure of meeting John R. Carpenter, > > the > > administrator of this List, in person-You are really missing something! > ...(parts of message deleted) > > PS Despite the fact that we are not closely-related genetically, I must > > say > > that John looks incredibly like my cousin, Mark Carpenter (including the > > beard!). He sure looks a lot like the Carpenter men I have known! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:36:24 -0700 > From: "John R. Carpenter" <jrcrin001@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of > SDGS > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000701c8a0a0$cb8d5d70$0200a8c0@JOHN> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Pam, > > One of the concerns about DNA testing is privacy. > > That said, there are some various pictures of Carpenters in the CE CD 2001 > under the Misc Pics folder. And there will be more in the future. > > John L. Carpenter (List Admin) and I (John R.) were often confused with each > > other because of our beards and glasses. Now that he shaved off his beard, > he looks really looks better than me. > > Some time ago on this list we remarked and discussed the two main body sizes > > of male New England type Carpenters. One about 5'9" to 5'10" stocky and > muscular and the other body type thinner and about 6'3" or so. Hair types > went from black/brown to reddish (mainly in the taller males) with some male > > pattern receeding hairlines. The 29" inseam was common in the smaller body > build. Eyes are basicly brown yet show a strong showing of lighter colored > eyes. At one point we even discussed the common European trait of the > second toe (next to the big toe) being about as long as the big toe! > > My father is 6'3" and I am 5'10" and I resemble my uncle (5'10.5") more than > > I do my father. Yet my brother is a 6'3" and resembles my father. If their > were not over 4,000 miles difference in location, I would have wondered > about my sire! > > I remember that in some famlies the male height difference in families often > > jumped a generation. Are there exceptions in body types? Of course! I know a > > few who have the thinner body type but not the 6' plus height. > > Female Carpenters seem to run the entire specrum of body types, colors and > sizes. > > All in all, there is nothing really strange about Carpenters except, well, > er, ah, ... a strong desire to learn more about our ancestry! :-) > > John R. Carpenter > La Mesa, CA > Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project > http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pamela Berger" <westwind@milwpc.com> > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:36 AM > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > > > > Wouldn't it be interesting if one could post photos of those who are > > willing > > (or dead) maybe on the Carprenter cousins DNA project or somewhere else to > > see those interesting and sometimes surprising family resemblances across > > cousindom? --Pam B. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gray Church" <graychurch@verizon.net> > > > > > >> To all of you who haven't had the pleasure of meeting John R. Carpenter, > >> the > >> administrator of this List, in person-You are really missing something! > > ...(parts of message deleted) > >> PS Despite the fact that we are not closely-related genetically, I must > >> say > >> that John looks incredibly like my cousin, Mark Carpenter (including the > >> beard!). He sure looks a lot like the Carpenter men I have known! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:57:49 -0700 > From: "Jim Carpenter" <carpentercla@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of > SDGS > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <045201c8a0ac$2afafcd0$6400a8c0@Carpentercla> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > We have several Carpenter photos on our Carpenter and Related Families > website. > As John R. said there are short, tall skinny ect. My oldest son is thin and > > 6' 4" > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pamela Berger" <westwind@milwpc.com> > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:36 AM > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > > > > Wouldn't it be interesting if one could post photos of those who are > > willing > > (or dead) maybe on the Carprenter cousins DNA project or somewhere else to > > see those interesting and sometimes surprising family resemblances across > > cousindom? --Pam B. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gray Church" <graychurch@verizon.net> > > > > > >> To all of you who haven't had the pleasure of meeting John R. Carpenter, > >> the > >> administrator of this List, in person-You are really missing something! > > ...(parts of message deleted) > >> PS Despite the fact that we are not closely-related genetically, I must > >> say > >> that John looks incredibly like my cousin, Mark Carpenter (including the > >> beard!). He sure looks a lot like the Carpenter men I have known! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:02:11 -0400 > From: janrobison2@aim.com > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of > SDGS > To: carpenter@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CA6EC3E95E6472-D7C-825@mblk-d19.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > On my Dad's side, (double Carpenter): > > Harriet Wells Carpenter was much taller than her husband, Theodore Julian > Van Horn. > Their daughter, Amey Doris Van Horn, was at least 5'8" > My dad was 6/4" > My brother is 6', I was 5'7" until back surgery > My daughter, Shannon, is over 5'7" at age 15 and still shooting upward!! > > Jan > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Carpenter <carpentercla@cox.net> > To: carpenter@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:57 pm > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > > > > > > > > > > > We have several Carpenter photos on our Carpenter and Related Families > website. > As John R. said there are short, tall skinny ect. My oldest son is thin and > > 6' 4" > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pamela Berger" <westwind@milwpc.com> > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:36 AM > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > > > > Wouldn't it be interesting if one could post photos of those who are > > willing > > (or dead) maybe on the Carprenter cousins DNA project or somewhere else to > > see those interesting and sometimes surprising family resemblances across > > cousindom? --Pam B. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gray Church" <graychurch@verizon.net> > > > > > >> To all of you who haven't had the pleasure of meeting John R. Carpenter, > >> the > >> administrator of this List, in person-You are really missing something! > > ...(parts of message deleted) > >> PS Despite the fact that we are not closely-related genetically, I must > >> say > >> that John looks incredibly like my cousin, Mark Carpenter (including the > >> beard!). He sure looks a lot like the Carpenter men I have known! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:05:58 -0600 > From: "Ron Carpenter" <ronsfort@ronan.net> > Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter Lineage Search > To: <CARPENTER@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F50922C00B8A49ED92899752430D19BE@ronsfortPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Posting of April 17, 2008 > > I am trying to complete the Carpenter side of the Carpenter-Rice lineage. > > I have established the fact that Charles Pomeroy Carpenter was my great, > great-grandfather. > I have plenty of information on Charles Pomeroy who is buried at the North > Church in Orwell, Ohio. I am searching for his predecessors. Based upon > various US Censuses from 1870 back through 1850, I believe his father to be > William Carpenter of Norway, Herkimer County, NY. He was born in Rhode > Island ca. 1809-1811. William of Norway had a son Charles P., born in NY in > 1838. This matches the age of Charle Pomeroy Carpenter of the 1870 US > Census in Ohio taken in N Bloomfield, Trumbell County. In this 1870 Census > Charle Pomeroy lists NY as his birthplace, and dob as 1938. There was also a > William Carpenter in Russia, Herkimer, NY, but I do not believe they were > related. > > William Carpenter of Norway, lists Rhode Island as his birthplace. Some US > Censuses list 1809 and others 1811. William of Norway had 2 sons, Charles P. > and Henry S. both born in NY. William lists Rhode Island as his place of > birth. > > Based upon this information, I am reasonably certain the William of Norway > was the father of Charles Pomeroy Carpenter. > > Assuming this is correct, who would be the father of William of Norway? > According to the 1830 US Census for Rhode Island, there were many Carpenter > families who had sons of 20-30 years of age, (the age of William of Norway > at this time.) Of these, there was a Henry Carpenter who listed a son of > this age bracket. > > Considering that William of Norway had a son named Henry, could this Henry > Carpenter of Scituate, Providence, Rhode Island be the father of William of > Norway? > > Does anyone have any information relating to the above search? > > Thanks! > > Ron C Carpenter > Ronan, MT > ronsfort@ronan.net > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:54:14 -0700 > From: "John R. Carpenter" <jrcrin001@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of > SDGS > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001101c8a0ee$b8e1de50$0200a8c0@JOHN> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Jim, > > I sent a few pictures to your email address. The Carpenter Rootsweb does > not take attachments. > > I think it is a good idea regarding pictures. So ... I sent him a few. > > Thank You to Pam & Jim! > > John R. Carpenter > La Mesa, CA > Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project > http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm > > FayRosemaryJohnR.jpg taken in Tampa Florida in Sept 2002. L2R Fay > Charpentier-Ford, Rosemary Batchelor, John R. Carpenter > > Dick Carpenter.jpg taken in the late 1950s - his second time being an > officer. He won a battlefield commision in Korea in July 1953 while > surronded by enemy CCF and cut off from friendly forces. One month later > they released him and he reenlisted. > Dick Carpenter Birthday 2006 - Richard L. "Dick" Carpenter on his birthday > in 2006. > Bob Carpenter 2005.jpg - This is my uncle and brother to Dick Carpenter. > > John R Carpenter La Mesa CA.jpg - taken about 2005. > John R 1975.jpg taken late in 1975 to show a pale weak young lad just out > of the army. > > Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Carpenter" <carpentercla@cox.net> > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > > > > We have several Carpenter photos on our Carpenter and Related Families > > website. > > As John R. said there are short, tall skinny ect. My oldest son is thin > > and > > 6' 4" > > > > Jim > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:49:46 -0700 > From: "Jim Carpenter" <carpentercla@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of > SDGS > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <057201c8a0f6$7b082730$6400a8c0@Carpentercla> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > John R. > > Thanks I got the pictures and I'll get them posted on the Carpenter and > Related families site. > > Thanks! > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Carpenter" <jrcrin001@cox.net> > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:54 PM > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > > > > Jim, > > > > I sent a few pictures to your email address. The Carpenter Rootsweb does > > not take attachments. > > > > I think it is a good idea regarding pictures. So ... I sent him a few. > > > > Thank You to Pam & Jim! > > > > John R. Carpenter > > La Mesa, CA > > Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project > > http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm > > > > FayRosemaryJohnR.jpg taken in Tampa Florida in Sept 2002. L2R Fay > > Charpentier-Ford, Rosemary Batchelor, John R. Carpenter > > > > Dick Carpenter.jpg taken in the late 1950s - his second time being an > > officer. He won a battlefield commision in Korea in July 1953 while > > surronded by enemy CCF and cut off from friendly forces. One month later > > they released him and he reenlisted. > > Dick Carpenter Birthday 2006 - Richard L. "Dick" Carpenter on his birthday > > in 2006. > > Bob Carpenter 2005.jpg - This is my uncle and brother to Dick Carpenter. > > > > John R Carpenter La Mesa CA.jpg - taken about 2005. > > John R 1975.jpg taken late in 1975 to show a pale weak young lad just out > > of the army. > > > > Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Carpenter" <carpentercla@cox.net> > > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:57 AM > > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] John R Carpenter--Recent Guest Speaker of SDGS > > > > > >> We have several Carpenter photos on our Carpenter and Related Families > >> website. > >> As John R. said there are short, tall skinny ect. My oldest son is thin > >> and > >> 6' 4" > >> > >> Jim > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the CARPENTER list administrator, send an email to > CARPENTER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the CARPENTER mailing list, send an email to > CARPENTER@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of CARPENTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 54 > **************************************** > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message